Christians, your Bible, Christ, and the Hebrew Prophets all confess Hinduism - /lit/ (#24456299) [Archived: 1231 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/10/2025, 12:49:39 PM No.24456299
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The Vedantic confession that only Brahman really is:
Mark 18:10
>And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.
The Vedantic confession that self of Christ is the self of Brahman, and that the carnal body is a phantom, illusion, or disguise of Brahman:
John 14:28
>Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
Philippians 2:9
>But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
Romans 8:3
>For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
1 Corinthians 6:19
>What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
2 Corinthians 5:19
>To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
1 Corinthians 15:47
>The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.
John 2:19
>Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
I have read the books of the Sacra Doctrina series published by the Catholic University of America Press, the texts of the ecumenical councils, Prepare the way of the Lord: an introduction to the Old Testament published by Concordia, The dynamics of biblical parallelism published by Eerdmans, and dozens of other books representing the most recent scholarship on what is today's most popular superstition. My reading of these dozens of books has led me inevitably to a single obvious conclusion that arrogant and superstitious Christians attempt, and fail, to obfuscate.
Christianity is polytheistic.
Boethius defines a person as an individual substance of a rational nature.
Three separate rational persons implies three separate natures.
Three separate natures implies three separate gods.
Dr. Nina E. Livesey reveals that polytheist Marcionites wrote the Pauline epistles:
>To better understand early Christianity, we must look to the social and political circumstances surrounding the rise of Pauline letters in the mid-second century. Such an endeavor resists allowing the letters to create social realities– doing historical work for us– and instead opens explorations into questions of events and factors outside the letters, including those of ancient textual production and deployment. By examining Marcion and his circle, and other contemporaneous second-century writers and writings, we will be better informed of the foundations of early Christianity.
Marcion attributed aseity and eternity to a second god.
Because there is so much evidence even in my brief argument here, I will conclude my argument against the Christian sophists in a reply.
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 12:52:10 PM No.24456305
>>24456299 (OP)
Even the Hebrew texts confess polytheism:
>Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, Whom shall I send, and who will go for us? Then said I, Here am I; send me.
This verse alone refutes the Christianity of the Hebrew texts as monotheistic.
Christianity is polytheistic and all confessing Christians are polytheists.
The Hebrew prophets all confessed Hinduism.
Only ignorance, prejudice, and absolutely pathetic sophistry prevent all Christians from practicing Hinduism. I have the books of the Sacra Doctrina series published by the Catholic University of America Press and texts of the ecumenical councils, which are nothing but misrepresentations and obfuscations of and common sleight-of-hand tricks of sophists employed against the obvious reading of the Christian texts as confessing Hinduism. Catholicism and Orthodoxy represent departures from the Hebrew prophets, who absolutely confessed Hinduism.
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 2:47:40 PM No.24456509
Good morning sir, please do the needful!
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 6:30:00 PM No.24456903
>>24456299 (OP)
I think it was just obvious that Jesus was a perfectly enlightened man and he plays a role in the running of the universe, being an incarnation of God, playing the role and reestablishing religion on Earth as God does time and time again, and I don't find him incompatible with Hinduism in the slightest.
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 6:40:43 PM No.24456933
2 millenia of tradition and theology gone... Just like that?
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Anonymous
6/11/2025, 5:21:42 AM No.24458240
>>24456933
Manmade falsehoods collapse under scrutiny.
Anonymous
6/11/2025, 5:36:45 AM No.24458263
>>24456299 (OP)
so what is the substantial argument that aligns these with hinduism other than that the doctrines bear superficial similarity? So Brahman is one and all, got it, God is one and all, sort of, what is to prevent the more obvious reading that the nature of God is found in different times at different places? Do you have a historical argument that the Hebrews were actually influenced by the Hindus and not the other way around?
Anonymous
6/11/2025, 1:10:37 PM No.24458851
>>24456933
>muh tradition
Anonymous
6/11/2025, 1:24:06 PM No.24458872
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>>24456299 (OP)
Odd OP because the rest of the post slowly diverges from the original thesis and begins talking about unrelated things using extremely questionable evidence.

Some Pauline Epistles are doubted. Most aren't. They are placed in the first century. Hebrews, which most agree wasn't written by Paul, still dates to around his time and was almost certainly written by a follower. Other sources earlier than the controversy you mention are already quoting these letters.

You could probably better argue Arianism or subordinationism, but the text is consistent with the Trinity as well. There are indeed some similarities with Hinduism. Christians would say this is because all religions reach for truth and all truth, even partial truth, is a fruit of the same Logos, Christ.

For example:
...these principles are that (1) the world of space and time does not itself exist in space and time: it exists in Intellect (the Empyrean, pure conscious being); (2) matter, in medieval hylomorphism, is not something “material”: it is a principle of unintelligibility, of alienation from conscious being; (3) all finite form, that is, all creation, is a self-qualification of Intellect or Being, and only exists insofar as it participates in it; (4) Creator and creation are not two, since the latter has no existence independent of the former; but of course creator and creation are not the same; and (5) God, as the ultimate subject of all experience, cannot be an object of experience: to know God is to know oneself as God, or (if the expression seems troubling) as one “with” God or “in” God.

Let me spell out these principles at greater length. In medieval hylomorphism (the matter-form analysis of reality), pure Intellect (consciousness or awareness) is pure actuality, or form, or Being, or God: it is the self-subsistent principle that spawns or “contains” all finite being and experience. Intellect Being is what is, unqualified, self-subsistent, attributeless, dimensionless. It has no extension in space or time; rather, it projects space-time “within” itself, as, analogously, a dreaming intelligence projects a dream-world, or a mind gives being to a thought. The analogy holds in at least three respects: (1) like dreams or thoughts, created things are radically contingent, and dependent at every instant of their existence on what gives them being; (2)as there is nothing thoughts are “made of,” so there is nothing the world is “made of”: being is not a “something” to make things out of; and (3) dreams and thoughts have no existence apart from the intelligence in which they arise, but one cannot point to that intelligence because it is not a thing. In the same way, one cannot point to the Empyrean, the tenth heaven that the Comedy presents as the infinite intelligence/reality “within” which all things exist; remove it and the universe would instantly vanish.
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Anonymous
6/11/2025, 11:10:29 PM No.24459763
>>24458872
Christianity denies all five principles, as it absolutely separates the act of being (actus essendi) of creatures from Brahman.
Anonymous
6/12/2025, 5:12:32 AM No.24460485
>>24456299 (OP)

A couple of days ago I was on /pol/ and a Nepalese started a thread about Indians and even uploaded a webm of a bunch of Hindus tossing around a headless corpse as part of some Hindu religious ritual. You Indians need to eat a nuke.
Anonymous
6/12/2025, 5:17:44 AM No.24460494
religion is retarded amit, I thought society had agreed on that by now
Anonymous
6/12/2025, 5:19:12 PM No.24461424
The Monarchical Trinity =//= polytheism