>finish non-fiction work
>forget 90% of it's content in a week
How do you counter this?

>>24458740 (OP)
By actively engaging with its ideas again and again. Which you would've done if the work was worth something

>>24458740 (OP)
use it or lose it
that's all learning comes down to

I just assume that whatever I actually needed to know stuck and the rest is not of importance to me.

I don't have that problem. Perhaps you're trying to educate yourself beyond your intelligence.

Watch YouTube videos about the subject.

10% is still good

>>24458740 (OP)
Make notes. Summarize what you just learned. Turn it into a timeline or illustrate key concepts for yourself. Use the information to solve a problem.

by not reading.

>>24458740 (OP)
>>finish non-fiction work
>>forget 90% of it's content in a week
>How do you counter this?
sprout another 20 or mor IQ points, or grow a cock. Preferably, both. This is midwit territory. To read something, and can't retain it. Christ, I can quote from books I read thirty years ago. But then again, I'm not a simpleton.
PS- nice image, of kitty.

>finnish non-fiction work
>can't read it

>>24458740 (OP)
I don't read anything for a week and meditate on it. If it was good.

Contrary to popular belief you lose all knowledge and skills with time if you don't lose it. I used to live and work in Japan and spoke the language daily for almost 5 years. It's been 10 years and I can barely understand it when I hear it now.

I used to bike when I was a child but I tried it recently for the first time in 20 years and I couldn't keep balance and had to give up on it later on.

>>24458740 (OP)
Fictional stories are easy to remember because they're structured in such a way that makes it easy to remember. It's why so much of religion are parables instead of lectures. Constructed stories just have a flow and often cuts out all the fat that makes you go, "Oh yeah, I remember what that character did in the middle of the story".

Non-fictional stories are basically an ecosystem. Reading about the Vietnam War is not a linear path with one character to follow. You can start before the war, talk about the nation's issues, talk about the presidency, jump to American culture at the time, talk about the draft, pivot to soldier accounts, talk about Vietnamese leaders, jump to certain events and battles, and so on. You're getting 100+ POVs and it can be overwhelming.

I remember small details in fiction even years later, but can forget them in less than a year for books about Michael Eisner's time at Disney or CIA operatives. The ONLY way I've found myself fixing this is by talking about the non-fictional events with someone. So, I'll read something about the USS Indianapolis, and then I'll talk about it with my dad who also loves war history. Remembering conversations you had can be easier than reading silently in your head. I think it's why reading aloud is helpful to people.

>>24461345
This. Whenever I want to remember something I explain it to someone else then discuss it with them.

>>24461323
how the fuck does one have to give up going on a bicycle?

>>24458740 (OP)
This means you haven't integrated what you've read. I've had this same problem when reading Sun Tzu's Art of War

>>24458740 (OP)
By not reading dogshit slop?

>>24461323
yea but anon you were in that accident. i know you don't remember, but we tell you this every day.

>>24458740 (OP)
Obsidian: Go back and skim through the notes as a quick refresher. Most of the info probably isn’t relevant or interesting right now—just make sure you write down the bits that actually are. Then move on. When the subject comes up again, you’ll have the important stuff ready to jog your memory.

>>24458740 (OP)
This is normal for the average person. If you want to remember more than you have to reread it a bunch of times or actively recall it (writing, flash cards, tests, etc)

>>24461913
Masturbatory pseudo-productivity slop

>>24461323
i was able to ride a bike just fine, but legs started to give up when i got off the bike

Explain the contents to somebody in your head. When most people talk about philosophy or history they just repeat robotically what they've already explained a thousand times.
Just imagine future conversations you'll have with someone

>>24461913
Thanks Grok

>>24462029
>writing
>Masturbatory pseudo-productivity slop
Did you just call your own advice masturbatory pseudo-productivity slop?

>>24462966
You don’t need a bloated electron app to write. That’s why people use obsidian: to bask in features and windows and tags and make themselves *feel* good and productive.

>>24458740 (OP)
>Babby's first college paper

>>24460340
Another banger frogpost

>>24458740 (OP)
>How do you counter this?
For toxoniggers its not curable. Sorry.

>>24458946
what the fuck are you talking about

>>24460332
i'm already *plenty smart*. i did a math PhD specializing in number theory and work on layout algorithms. perhaps my memory is just dogshit, or you're doing fairly light reading.

>>24464560
You need to write the 5000 word essay.
>I did a [M]ath PhD
It is a shame your undergraduate degree wasn't a BA Math. You'd understand retention.

>>24460340
kek

>>24458740 (OP)
Read
Slower.

>>24458740 (OP)
Take notes

>>24458740 (OP)
Use a spaced repetition system like Anki.

>>24458740 (OP)
Sticky notes and annotations. You're far more likely to retain information if you commit it to notes. Pen and paper is more effective than typing in a notepad file, but even that is better than nothing. Then when you need to reference that information, you have the mental association of the note you took on the page, similar to smell or taste triggering some memories. You could even try and associate the information with something like a gay force acronym that only makes sense to you, or a Latin phrase.

>>24465885
This is the right answer. You're not taking the time to enjoy the books. My guess is you just plow through it.

>>24458740 (OP)
>How do you counter this?
I'll tell you becuase I like you. Most people I let suffer.
I memorize it when I use it. IF its applicable to something Im doing, especially something with rewards involved, I wont forget it. Use it in a project or something.
People learn differently, but I'm guessing this is pretty common?

>>24458741
>>24458883
yeah

>>24458891
the issue here is delay. Your intuition is correct that most of what we're taught is bullshit, but sometimes you learn something you dont need for years.
One of my gripes is math. I struggled to memorize math when learning it, but next year I take science which uses the math & its easy.

>>24458946
youre a fucking liar
>>24460332
memorizing is an important step, but its not the same as digesting.

>>24461323
This varies from person to person. Its true with all, but not to the same degree. For me things fade, but I can pick it up again quickly & 'dial in'.
I'm sure theres some downsides to not letting things go.

>>24461345
Your life is nonfiction. Do you find that hard to remember? Most nonfiction writers are just trash.

>>24467513
>Your life is nonfiction
Strangely people tell their lives as stories. I've tried telling people my life as lyrical poetry and they get quite upset.

>>24463681
That might be why some people use it. Don't be this dumb

>>24458740 (OP)
Taking notes.

Literally only way I could.

Now I forever remember.

>>24458740 (OP)
Have a project where you collect and apply what you learn. Reading philosophy? Start writing an essay about what you believe in. History? Ditto on what you think mattered. This lets you also to develop your own ideas as you absorb those of others

>>24458740 (OP)
By having a brain.

>>24464551
If you can't even understand that, you're definitely trying to educate yourself beyond your intelligence.
>>24467513
>waah waah you lie
Not a very good cope.