Was he a good lyricist?

>That one time Pynchon met him
https://thomaspynchon.com/thomas-pynchon-and-brian-wilson/

I remember the first time I heard I Just Wasn't Made for These Times I was frozen to my seat it was like seeing myself on video in film from the sixties

>>24459334
Yeah, hearing introspective lyrics like this in the 60s wasnt so common
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=216YJKbber8

>>24459314 (OP)
>>24459334
>>24459341
Brian Wilson was a pseud lyricsmogged by Morrison (PBUH). Also I bet you didn't even know any of their songs until they were included in Sex Education or some other zoom zoom Netflix goyslop

>Obviously Pet Sounds was the least selling of all their albums at the time. Pet Sounds is also now one of the most overrated albums ever.

>Of all creative bands in the history of rock music, the Doors may have been the most creative. Their first album contains only masterpieces and remains virtually unmatched. Jim Morrison may well be the single most important rock frontman. He is the one who defined the rock vocalist as an artist, not just a singer. Ray Manzarek's style at the keyboards was at the vanguard of the fusion of classical, jazz, soul and rock music. The virulence of some of their riffs bridged the blues-rock era and the hard-rock era. Whether it was him, Krieger or Manzarek or all of them, their songs have a unique quality that has never been repeated. They are metaphysical while being psychological and while being physical (eroticand violent). They are the closest thing rock music has produced to William Shakespeare.

>>24459350
>Morrison
>Scaruffi

>>24459314 (OP)
Yep he was good

>>24459314 (OP)
rip to one of the greats

>>24459314 (OP)
Rest in power king

>>24459314 (OP)

>>24459350
Based scaruffi poster

>>24459350
>I EAT MORE CHICKEN THAN ANY MAN EVER SEEN
*shitty guitar solo*
>SHE GET HIIIIGH
>SHE GET HIIIIIIIIIIGH
>SHE GET HIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGH
*shitty CIA funded ten minute keyboard solo*
>FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK
*song ends*
*whips his dick out*

Maybe there‘s more to it than I‘ve become acquainted with but every time I‘ve tried to look into his "musical genius" it doesn‘t seem to be much more than a 25 year old with above-average imagination and the means to implement it on radio.

Given how much of a PR stunt his alleged brilliance was, I‘d be surprised if its basis in reality is strong.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Wilson_is_a_genius

>>24459501
He was a genius. You're a midwit incapable of comprehending why the label is appropriate.

https://youtu.be/DPcPkc6KD7k

>>24459494
He was a big guy

>>24459513
In public now and not watching your silly video essay by some media corp. Just gonna post some more silly shit that was said about Smile to make me think this was pure hype from the era of a heavily-moderated mainstream.

>Wilson touted Smile as a "teenage symphony to God" intended to surpass Pet Sounds and inaugurate the band's Brother Records imprint. Consuming over 50 hours of tape across more than 80 recording sessions, its content ranged from musical and spoken word to sound effects and role-playing. Its influences spanned mysticism, classical music, ragtime, pre–rock and roll pop, jazz, doo-wop, musique concrète, and cartoons. Planned elements included word paintings, tape manipulation, acoustic experiments, comedic interludes, and the band's most challenging and complex vocals to this point. The projected lead single was either "Heroes and Villains", about early California history, or "Vega-Tables", a satirical promotion of organic food.

>Having withdrawn from concert tours, he had distanced himself from his bandmates[8] and began networking further within the Los Angeles music scene[9] while increasingly using drugs such as marijuana, LSD (or "acid"), and Desbutal.[10][nb 1] He forged a close relationship with Loren Schwartz, an aspiring talent agent, who supervised his first LSD trip and introduced him to college-favored literature, including The Little Prince, poetry by Kahlil Gibran, works by Hermann Hesse, and texts by Krishna.

>According to Nolan, one anonymous observer remembered that whenever someone introduced a new idea to Wilson, whether astrology or Russia-China relations, it would invariably "find its way into the music".[61]

And of course the end product didn‘t happen because there wasn‘t a unified artistic vision and rigor behind it: just a lot of hype for a kid with middlebrow tastes thinking it was something higher, and the means to act as such almost indefinitely.

>>24459549
>REEEEEEEE
I'm not interested in your copy/paste, midwit. Sorry you're too much of a retard to cultivate taste but I'd tone down the pseud cope if I were you--that makes it all the more noticable.

>>24459314 (OP)
I don't know, but The Beach Boys are amazing. I like them more than any other pop act from the 60s. RIP, Brian.

>>24459314 (OP)
Pet Sounds is the best break up/coming of age, lost young man album ever made

RIP
Unfortunately the rest of their music, while solid and great pop, do not reach the heights of that album but to be fair, few do

>>24459501
>>24459549
>autism
Wikipedia lol.

>>24459314 (OP)
>Was he a good lyricist?
No, and to his credit he 100% knew it. He consistently worked with lyricists throughout his career, such like Tony Asher (who wrote the lyrics on Pet Sounds), Van Dyke Parks (who wrote the lyrics for SMiLE/Good Vibrations), and Mike Love (who wrote much of their earlier lyrics). He was a brilliant musician but when he wrote lyrics it was often stuff like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q65vGN_CnHQ
>He sits behind his microphone
>John-ny Car-son
>He speaks in such a manly tone
>John-ny Car-son
>Ed McMahon comes on and says "Here's Johnny"
>Every night at eleven thirty he's so funny
>It's (nice) to (have) you (on) the (show) tonight
>I've seen (your) act (in) Vegas out of sight
Real geniuses know their strengths and weaknesses, and he knew that he couldn't really do lyrics. Gotta give the man props where it's due.

>>24459314 (OP)
>>That one time Pynchon met him
>https://thomaspynchon.com/thomas-pynchon-and-brian-wilson/
Great, two hacks like each other, real meaningful

>>24460065
>t. cold and timid soul

I love the story of him sneaking into his ex-wife's home in the dead of night, going inside the bedroom and gently kissing both her and her new boyfriend as they lay sound asleep, then casually wandering into their kitchen to grab a bite and steal a few of their cigarettes.

>>24460148
For me it's when he opened a nutrition store, opened at irregular hours, ate all the food that was for sale, and refused to sell vitamins without a prescription.

>wouldn't it be nice if you were older
What did he mean by this

>>24460212
>wouldn't it be nice if we were older
Lyric that captures the beauty and naiveté of young love; wishing for things to move faster without knowing everything about the world, including yourself and the ones you love, inevitably change. Nothing gold can stay.

>>24460208
plus we got this banger out of the ordeal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lESkCMulg7Y

>>24459314 (OP)
>Was he a good lyricist?
'Til I Die and Busy Doin' Nothing are his best lyrics that he wrote alone, but usually he collaborated with others; his best collaborator was Tony Asher.

>>24459314 (OP)
>lyricist

Beside the point in popular music, but for a brief window of sober time he caught the spirit in the air, the last gasp of the 50s hope for peace among the older WW2 & Korea generation, and their children emerging out of it into the full bore Cold War with the cosmist aspirations of The Space Race & Moon Landing.

>>24459350
>Obviously Pet Sounds was the least selling of all their albums at the time. Pet Sounds is also now one of the most overrated albums ever.

Okay tonedeaf fag.

>>24459543
For you

>>>/mu/126679261

>>24459350
>reading /mu/ on /lit/

>>24460728
That thread proves that mu is only rivalled by his for being the worst board on this site

The Beach Boys are only impressive by the standards of rock music. Yes, they are more sophisticated than Foghat, but aren’t any great shakes once you expand your tastes. Pet Sounds is babyish compared to what Nelson Riddle or even Quincy Jones were doing, and that’s before we get into more serious jazz or other art music.

The Beach Boys are great, but certainly not genius. Go listen to Mahler’s Adagietto or Wagner’s Liebestod or the opening of Bach’s Saint John Passion if you want a taste of actual genius.

>>24459560
Stick to /mu/ if you don't want to read. I won't reply again. I win.