Anonymous
6/12/2025, 7:17:59 AM No.24460696
What does it mean if I don't believe in and hate justice? Nobody deserves justice. What books argue against justice?
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Anonymous
6/12/2025, 7:26:00 AM No.24460706
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Anonymous
6/12/2025, 7:31:15 AM No.24460718
>>24460696 (OP)
Thrasymachus in the beginning of the Republic (just don't read the rest).
Thrasymachus in the beginning of the Republic (just don't read the rest).
Anonymous
6/12/2025, 7:31:39 AM No.24460720
>>24460706
>Matthew 5:38–39:
“You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’ But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also.
>John 8:1–11:
“Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?” [...] Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, “Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her.”
>Matthew 18:21–22:
Then Peter came to Jesus and asked, “Lord, how many times shall I forgive my brother or sister who sins against me? Up to seven times?” Jesus answered, “I tell you, not seven times, but seventy-seven times.
>Matthew 5:38–39:
“You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’ But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also.
>John 8:1–11:
“Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?” [...] Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, “Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her.”
>Matthew 18:21–22:
Then Peter came to Jesus and asked, “Lord, how many times shall I forgive my brother or sister who sins against me? Up to seven times?” Jesus answered, “I tell you, not seven times, but seventy-seven times.
Anonymous
6/12/2025, 8:33:33 AM No.24460782
>>24460696 (OP)
>What books argue against justice?
uhhhh... the selfish gene...? if your meme of antijustice is strong enough, it will outcompete the meme of justice, maybe...? but your meme is kinda retarded ngl
>What books argue against justice?
uhhhh... the selfish gene...? if your meme of antijustice is strong enough, it will outcompete the meme of justice, maybe...? but your meme is kinda retarded ngl
Anonymous
6/12/2025, 9:45:17 AM No.24460847
>>24460706
FPBP literally the bible.
Obviously the whole new testament but it's also clearly already there in the later prophets and sapiental old testament literature.
FPBP literally the bible.
Obviously the whole new testament but it's also clearly already there in the later prophets and sapiental old testament literature.
Anonymous
6/12/2025, 9:50:40 AM No.24460848
>>24460696 (OP)
Critique of Hegel’s Philosophy of Right
Critique of Hegel’s Philosophy of Right
Anonymouṡ
6/12/2025, 10:59:50 AM No.24460910
>>24460696 (OP)
>Nobody deserves justice.
By definition, justice is what everyone *does* deserve.
When someone says he hates justice he usually means he wants to treat other people worse than they treat him. If you don’t mean that you had better say what you DO mean.
>What books
Christianity (as many anons have pointed out) is built on the idea that we (i.e. human beings) can only hope we get treated better than we deserve. Needless to say you will find the sentiment in many supposedly secular works too:
POLONIUS: My lord, I will use them according to their desert.
HAMLET: God's bodykins, man, much better! Use every man after his desert, and who should scape whipping? Use them after your own honour and dignity. The less they deserve, the more merit is in your bounty. Take them in.
>Nobody deserves justice.
By definition, justice is what everyone *does* deserve.
When someone says he hates justice he usually means he wants to treat other people worse than they treat him. If you don’t mean that you had better say what you DO mean.
>What books
Christianity (as many anons have pointed out) is built on the idea that we (i.e. human beings) can only hope we get treated better than we deserve. Needless to say you will find the sentiment in many supposedly secular works too:
POLONIUS: My lord, I will use them according to their desert.
HAMLET: God's bodykins, man, much better! Use every man after his desert, and who should scape whipping? Use them after your own honour and dignity. The less they deserve, the more merit is in your bounty. Take them in.
Anonymous
6/12/2025, 5:28:06 PM No.24461434
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Anonymous
6/12/2025, 5:30:29 PM No.24461441
>>24460696 (OP)
Expand on that.
Expand on that.
Anonymous
6/12/2025, 5:36:02 PM No.24461449
>>24460696 (OP)
Oga boga
Oga boga
Anonymous
6/12/2025, 5:44:12 PM No.24461462
>>24460696 (OP)
*mmmmmmwah!*
*mmmmmmwah!*
Anonymous
6/12/2025, 5:46:22 PM No.24461466
>>24461434
>A man steals a cow from another man
>they want to imprison him
>Shouldn't happen
>A woman lives an adulterous life
>They want to stone her and let her burn in hell after
>Shouldn't happen
>They want to base the entire life belief systems of normalcattle on justice
>All Abrahamic religions have hell, justice for a life of wrongdoing
>Putting police, enforcers of law I.E justice on a pedestal
>Pedophile hunters are common slop normalcattle will gloat and watch, righteous anger, another kind of justice
If morality is subjective then justice is subjective, since both are a linear progression, justice comes from morality. Anything subjective could go against what you believe and that makes it wrong. Especially considering most people are wrong about quite a bit. Figureheads of justice, religious people, judges, and police are all to be questioned, exploited, and disrespected. Only lawyers deserve a small amount of respect. Justice pretends to be good, we pretend there's an all knowing all powerful God, the only God of this world is a system of justice we pretend is blind but actually sees through anything. People can pay out of justice, people can be biased, life isn't fair. You take value in a dysfunctional dynamic of justice. Dont take it seriously.
>A man steals a cow from another man
>they want to imprison him
>Shouldn't happen
>A woman lives an adulterous life
>They want to stone her and let her burn in hell after
>Shouldn't happen
>They want to base the entire life belief systems of normalcattle on justice
>All Abrahamic religions have hell, justice for a life of wrongdoing
>Putting police, enforcers of law I.E justice on a pedestal
>Pedophile hunters are common slop normalcattle will gloat and watch, righteous anger, another kind of justice
If morality is subjective then justice is subjective, since both are a linear progression, justice comes from morality. Anything subjective could go against what you believe and that makes it wrong. Especially considering most people are wrong about quite a bit. Figureheads of justice, religious people, judges, and police are all to be questioned, exploited, and disrespected. Only lawyers deserve a small amount of respect. Justice pretends to be good, we pretend there's an all knowing all powerful God, the only God of this world is a system of justice we pretend is blind but actually sees through anything. People can pay out of justice, people can be biased, life isn't fair. You take value in a dysfunctional dynamic of justice. Dont take it seriously.
Anonymous
6/12/2025, 6:13:18 PM No.24461523
>>24460706
That's not arguing against justice it's arguing for a different kind of justice
That's not arguing against justice it's arguing for a different kind of justice
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Anonymous
6/12/2025, 6:22:04 PM No.24461545
>>24461523
I don't think forgiveness is the same as justice. Justice implies punishment.
I don't think forgiveness is the same as justice. Justice implies punishment.
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Anonymous
6/12/2025, 6:24:55 PM No.24461558
>>24461545
Retard not all are forgiven according to jew book because they dont worship jews. So they get JUSTICE
Retard not all are forgiven according to jew book because they dont worship jews. So they get JUSTICE
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Anonymous
6/12/2025, 6:24:57 PM No.24461561
>>24461545
Not necessarily, justice could also mean rectifying how the victim was wronged.
Not necessarily, justice could also mean rectifying how the victim was wronged.
Anonymous
6/12/2025, 6:29:06 PM No.24461572
>>24461558
>Retard not all are forgiven according to jew book because they dont worship jews. So they get JUSTICE
Show me the punishment promoted in the gospels.
>Retard
Kys or talk like a human being and not a chimp.
>Retard not all are forgiven according to jew book because they dont worship jews. So they get JUSTICE
Show me the punishment promoted in the gospels.
>Retard
Kys or talk like a human being and not a chimp.
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Anonymous
6/12/2025, 7:05:09 PM No.24461659
Anonymous
6/12/2025, 8:02:00 PM No.24461770
You should read about restorative justice maybe