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Anonymous
6/12/2025, 11:08:04 PM No.24462108
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Books that explain this phenomenon?
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Anonymous
6/12/2025, 11:09:05 PM No.24462113
Esther Villar - The Manipulated Man
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Anonymous
6/12/2025, 11:21:54 PM No.24462146
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>>24462108 (OP)
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Anonymous
6/12/2025, 11:35:43 PM No.24462166
>>24462108 (OP)
I will give women a pass on this. Most dudes look like shit and don't put any effort in, while the vast majority of women do. All the ones bitching about it haven't gotten a haircut in 2 months, bathed, watched what they ear, or seen the inside of a gym since highshool.

It's only fair that if they are putting in the work they want someone who does the same.
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Anonymous
6/12/2025, 11:47:14 PM No.24462185
>>24462108 (OP)
in my experience it's men that go out of their way to be unfriendable
women aren't even a factor because that's for wealthy white people
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 12:11:46 AM No.24462233
The loneliness epidemic is very easy to explain. Paraphrasing 'The Value of Others', particularly the last chapter; as well as the author's youtube content. But its basic redpill stuff in articulate packaging (which may sound like faint praise, but it's actually high praise).

Relationships are a market. They happen when unequal goods of equal value are exchanged - sexual opportunity for money, generally, since sexual opportunity is the defining good in a sexual relationship. These relationships used to be an economic necessity for women. Before the 60's the promise of lifetime commitment preceded sex, societally enforced through shame and the law. But with the advent of birth control lowering the opportunity cost of intercourse, the sudden rise in casual sex led to commitment coming after sex instead of before. This led to people starting to act opportunistically in the game of mating and dating.
This meant that traditional marriage (a man precommitting to a lifetime of provision for a 20 year fertile window) becomes an increasingly worse deal - for both sides. As divorce becoming an option, women are happy to shop around for a better man, dating hypergamously; and men with optionality are perfectly happy staying where they are, having sex and not committing (why buy the cow when milk's free?). With the cost of shame gone, rent seeking is encouraged. The main losers in this game are low status men - marriage/monogamy functioned as a sort of rationing regime for the distribution of women, protecting them from polygamous alphas taking all the women - and, to a lesser extent, women who commit too late (which is many; but societal math dictates that most at least eventually find a partner, so while they lose they only lose a little).
Then, there's the advent of female empowerment. As women enter the labor force, they price men out of the game of mating and dating - women still seek to date up, since they generally trade sexual opportunity for financial resources, so that singleness becomes a competitive alternative to not entering a relationship, devalualing the male ability to provide- while what working women offer, money, is relatively uninteresting to men with financial abundance, and so careerist women also price themselves out of the high value men they want.
Globalisation and social media exacerbated these tendencies, giving inflated senses of scarcity to women and high value men by further increasing (the appearance of) optionality. The advent of porn/sexting/OF increased surrogatic sexual activity as a partial alternative to genuine sexual interaction. Recently, the feminist movement has increased the cost of male romantic risk taking while doing nothing to increase reward.
And when costs do not match benefits, transactions stop taking place. The juice is not worth the squeeze. Frankly, it's a miracle things haven't gone to shit more. Because relationships are a market, and only happen when unequal goods of equal value can be exchanged.
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 12:13:32 AM No.24462238
>>24462233
I only read half of this but no wonder people try to become fags, if you want an emotional connection to somebody and your only option is an enormous child who views everything as a transactional algebraic matrix then fuck it, let the species die.
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 12:20:40 AM No.24462256
>it's another blog post disguised as a rec post
A thread died for this.
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 12:31:15 AM No.24462280
rapidsave.com_ucrg3rcewxyc1
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>>24462238
Just because what I'm saying is true does not mean it is true on the conscious level; most of it happens on psychological subterraneous levels; but what matters is that agents seek their perceived interests. Specifically, human sexual decisions psychologically resolve via attraction. Which the book explains at length, it's really a good read. The chapter on the Laws of Power is shit though, and should be skipped.
Love (as in romantic feelings) and relationships have tangential overlap at best, since you can have one without the other; and love (as in self-sacrifice) is antithetical to relationships, since you're destroying your bargaining chips. Who'd want to marry the saint living on a pole for 50 years? What do they have to offer?
You may not like the facts, but that's unimportant - The game of mating and dating does not care about how you feel about it, rational self-interest just IS.
>>24462256
not OP, but it'd have been funny if I had been so you get a (You)
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 12:41:01 AM No.24462300
>>24462280
Jeez, dude if they're attractive and kind, that's enough.
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 1:02:55 AM No.24462352
>>24462300
This doesnt tell you anything about how attractive and kind they have to be for you, what the right attractive-kind ratio is, or what even is attractive to you in the first place; nor does it engage seriously with the fact that you choose some women over others, and are competing with other men who also just want an attractive and kind woman. Most importantly, it doesn't teach you how to get the attractive and kind woman to be interested in YOU.
You're ignoring the scarcity problem entirely. But that doesnt make any of it go away.
Of course, acting like you're not playing the game of mating and dating is a metastrategy in the game of mating and dating, and a potentially successful one.
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 1:52:57 AM No.24462443
>should you care about the random people you may never see in your life
Yes
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 2:03:22 AM No.24462463
>>24462166
As if women are looking for a boyfriend/husband. All they do is whore around with dozens of men since the time they're teens all the way into their 30's. Nobody is safe from it, not even chad. They fuck even chad over for another chad. And once they hit the wall, they decide to "settle down" with a provider mule, while cheating on him, and then divorce rape him to steal half his assets and income as alimony and continue their whorish lifestyle.
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 2:13:12 AM No.24462486
>>24462108 (OP)
Has anyone met these lonely men? Most guys are chill. The quiet and angry ones are ignored.
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 2:18:24 AM No.24462498
We as men need our own spaces to talk about this. It's very strange that women feel the need to butt in and sadistically glee at the thought of male suffering. They are forever chained to some petty gender based grievance that was programmed into them by feminists.
Not to mention that the sisterhood is fake, and the level of cunning that women sink to is truly terrifying. The story of Psyche alludes to this. You can see for yourself if you ever observe a group of plain faced girls and one beautiful girl.
On an individual level, men just need to spiritualmaxx. Loneliness is sacred. Silence is divine. Know this to your deepest depths, commit to some path, and you will attract the right people.
As for society as a whole, I have no answers. We just need our own spaces, free from reproductive pressure to impress some cunt in the vicinity, because some rat will betray men shamelessly. At least you can appreciate the honesty of a man betraying his principles for pussy.
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 2:32:17 AM No.24462519
>>24462486
Yeah, nah, I always think this too, never met any lonely men. It's hardly an epidemic; it's just that we've rephrased "Happy to be by myself for a majority of the day" into some horrible epidemic to gawk at. There's no problem, never was, just guys getting emotional (as a result of the government chemtrails, no less)
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 2:35:33 AM No.24462524
>>24462486
If people met them, they wouldn't be lonely anymore.
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 2:41:31 AM No.24462531
>>24462486
The spirit of man is so utterly broken in modern times that the only respite is the chance of Love, which incidentally is programmed into us from young age.
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 2:55:17 AM No.24462544
>>24462113
excellent post, anon.
most excellent.
In fact, the based department just called? And said...
send that anon a (you).
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 3:02:31 AM No.24462551
>>24462352
I'm older.
We were aght young? That looks and attraction are fine (for men). That money and status was of course okay (for woman). But... our parents and grandparents, always hammered it home. Thatshit is secondary, make sure you;re best friends, and really like and respect each other. On top of whatever chemistry brought you together. Today, though?
Bro. Looksmaxx, dude. Lie and hey, learn how to pretend to be alpha dude. Bro, just put out the alpha signals, dude. It gets you laid!
Women? Height, looks, status, money. Not a word about what the guy is really about.
And everyone is wondering, what in the hell happened.
As if I never once liked a girl, who was perhaps 10 or 15 pounds over her "target weight", If she had other attributes I highly valued, and treated me right? Hmm. Might be a keeper. And women... god forbid you dont get to marry Chad Thunderwallet.
this shit is important, but its not the be all and end all of everything.
We all have out head up our collective asses, with all this bullshit.
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 3:05:51 AM No.24462553
>>24462166
>while the vast majority of women do
Not even remotely true otherwise I agree.
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 3:07:20 AM No.24462555
>>24462108 (OP)
and to OP (whatever sort of FAGGOT you really are)
"Women are lonely, and can't get some idiot to want to marry them in their late 30s, and take care of all their bastardly children to loser bad boys. Should men care?"
>
that's equality.
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 4:24:40 AM No.24462656
>>24462498
>It's very strange that women feel the need to butt in and sadistically glee at the thought of male suffering. They are forever chained to some petty gender based grievance that was programmed into them by feminists.

No this is in woman's nature. Women are basically like bratish children who will keep testing the waters and seeing how far they can take it and they've been allow to take it this far. Women's interaction with men is basically one giant shit test and if allowed they will keep pushing you further and further and further.
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 5:40:32 AM No.24462746
ToTheLighthouse
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>>24462108 (OP)
To the Lighthouse.
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 6:09:05 AM No.24462771
>>24462233
double dubs of deep enlightenment. feminism is the biggest troll the jews ever played on humanity. absolutely sickening.
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 6:09:55 AM No.24462774
>>24462553
I am correct thoughbeit.
Some girls don't wear makeup or wash and their hair and dress like shit, and 95% of the time this is a flex because they weigh 85 lbs and are saying they don't have to. That still requires effort, women are naturally fatter than men.

The number of women who actually are low effort to the like, lightsaber fatty video guy degree is very low.

In a non superficial manner (i guess, its still vapid) many women also spend lots of time reading articles or "learning" about or talking about relationships. Its what many of them are interested in, in the same proportion that many men are interested in sportsball or surface lvl ww2 history or other retard shit "10 ways to x your partner" as well as sex articles etc. This is very rare for men.
Regardless, the premise of the article is untrue. In real life, a single woman will have 20 friends and be completely, a single man will have 2 and be perfectly fulfilled.
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 6:10:58 AM No.24462777
>>24462774
20 friends and be completely alone*
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 6:32:34 AM No.24462799
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>>24462555
I do not understand why so many women don't realize that single mothers are radioactive. I don't want to date a single mother, I'd legitimately rather be single forever. I don't want to deal with your brat kids from another marriage and I definitely don't want to deal with your baby daddy's repeated intrusions into my affairs.

Women need to realize that even if they're not virgins, it is entirely understandable that them having kids is the ultimate dealbreaker. Yet so many of them don't.
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 6:54:40 AM No.24462817
>>24462519
Agreed. Seems like fag shit.
>>24462524
Okay. So where do we meet these lonely bastards in the middle? Not gonna Samwise Gamgee carry their Frodo Baggins ass out of loneliness.
>>24462531
>The spirit of man is so utterly broken in modern times
>love
>programmed into us
What is bro yapping about?
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 6:55:04 AM No.24462821
>>24462799
guess what thats your only option
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 6:56:11 AM No.24462823
>>24462108 (OP)
Not a book but the million other incel threads on /lit/ over the years. There is literally always a thread like this one up. I’ve always wondered if it’s the same anons doing the same old song and dance haha. Like nigga, just put yourself out there and stop taking your self so seriously. Women don’t like you for a reason
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 8:27:15 AM No.24462911
>>24462551
Nothing wrong with what you're saying. Valuing companionship and other qualities in eachother is great!; but companionship is not unique to the sexual relationship. You can get it from friends and family, and lots of relationships regrettably lack it most of the time. I'm not saying sex and money are the only resources that go or should go into relationships, but I'm saying sex is the defining resource.
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 8:36:01 AM No.24462924
>>24462774
Except you aren't correct.
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 9:47:58 AM No.24462990
>>24462166
>Most dudes look like shit and don't put any effort in, while the vast majority of women do
Try making a Tinder profile with a picture of a female landwhale and a description stating she hates men and doesn't shave her body and post results
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 9:48:33 AM No.24462991
>>24462108 (OP)
>no I don't want male friends!
>I want sex! sexooooo!!!!
>why am I lonely
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 9:55:09 AM No.24463001
>>24462799
I'm so desperate and lonely that I could date a single mother provided she swore to give birth to at least 4 children of my own to make up for the shame of having to raise another man's offspring
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 10:07:52 AM No.24463018
>>24462486
I think its men who don't even try to make a contact. Like my friend who berates himself as neet incel, but won't go out to socialize, even when invited by women.
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 10:39:46 AM No.24463051
>>24462108 (OP)
For time a man mentions this supposed epidemic I see women make thirty seething with overpowering rage at the men supposedly talking about this epidemic. It seems more of a female revenge fantasy than reality
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 10:41:16 AM No.24463054
For every time a man mentions this supposed epidemic I see thirty women seething with overpowering rage at the men supposedly talking about this epidemic. It seems more of a female revenge fantasy than reality
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 10:47:37 AM No.24463057
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>>24462108 (OP)
I unironically think that women aren't even wired to care about this on a fundamental level and all the ones that have been expressing concern lately have been going through the motions in the name of some other goal.

This is probably them following the natural order of things too, which is the real kicker. This is female nature as it really is.
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 11:15:42 AM No.24463085
>>24462233
>sexual opportunity is the defining good
Virgin moment. Sex is like Tetris; it comes with the gameboy, it’s not a selling point.
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 11:17:21 AM No.24463086
William_Blake_-_The_Red_Dragon_and_the_Woman_Clothed_in_Sun_ca_1802-1805_-_(MeisterDrucke-793704)
>>24462146
>But you do not owe me kindness
>YOU OWE ME AWE
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 11:32:35 AM No.24463103
>>24463001
Let's be real, you would dump her while she's in the hospital giving birth to the fourth
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 11:32:59 AM No.24463104
>>24462166
Women are retarded and so are you. The reason why women should care is because they want more high value males, yet they don't understand that those high value males are exactly the kinds of guys who were lucky with affection and support groups in their youth. You don't have to talk to many people or read many autobiographies to realize that.

People don't just become slobs on their own, that is a lie normies (you) tell themselves so they can feel free to be cruel to someone.
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 11:50:20 AM No.24463121
>>24462108 (OP)
>lonely
Translation: Not house negros for a slave massa.

We are chilling, actually.
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 12:01:28 PM No.24463132
>>24463085
>wanting women for not-sex
gay lmao
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 1:16:52 PM No.24463215
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>>24462486
I don’t find irl socializing engaging. People say I’m chill. I just don’t care. Perhaps it’s social conditioning because irl socializing is a mess, meanwhile
>can just discuss things on 4chinz
>can just jerk off to porn
>can download books from the internet/order them from Amazon
21st century schizoid man
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 4:24:06 PM No.24463418
>>24462166
You're right about modern guys not putting in the effort, but I think that's a result of our post sexual revolution society. If men had a good chance of finding women who were willing to settle down and marry in their twenties, I think more men would actually feel incentivized to put the effort in.
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 4:31:58 PM No.24463426
kierkegaard
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>>24462108 (OP)
Simps are the Young Girls
Incels are the Knights of Infinite Resignation
Volcels who are willing to try dating again if they find the elusive noble woman are the Knights of Faith
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 4:34:58 PM No.24463433
>>24462233
>Frankly, it's a miracle things haven't gone to shit more.
...he says, as Western countries are hitting record low childbirth numbers every year
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 4:51:59 PM No.24463477
Society is upheld by both men and women. We cannot abandon the other or else it'll collapse. These attitudes are not helpful and just contributes to the incel epidemic.
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 5:07:01 PM No.24463506
>>>/r9k/
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 5:27:30 PM No.24463557
>>24463477
*consumerist societies
Women are a literal burden. Invent a way to incubate children and men will holocaust women in a single night.
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 6:12:23 PM No.24463616
>>24462166
Yeah, most of us stopped grooming ourselves aside from hygienically because it was making zero difference. More time in my day and fewer reminders of my unsatisfactory love life.
This shit, women refusing to even communicate with men ("problematic" men to be "fair") started around 2013 for me. I kept up what was considered an acceptable lifestyle until 2018. I still bathe, but I let dishes pile up before I do them, cut my own hair, bite my nails, drink from the carton, only brush my teeth in the morning. I do the bare minimum now and am a little happier for it.
All that extra shit just seems inhuman to me now.
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 6:14:45 PM No.24463625
>>24462185
Men, hurt men, use the unfriendable persona as their own shit test. If someone isn't able to tolerate the off-color jokes, the self-deprecating, etc, why hide it? Better to not keep it a secret because anyone unable to care will be filtered and anyone unable to will guilt you for not being foreward about it.
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 6:16:17 PM No.24463627
>>24462280
>most of it happens on psychological subterraneous levels
Yes, for the normals with captured imaginations.
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 6:20:30 PM No.24463634
>>24462817
The world you are exposed to is curated and not true. You are molded by your experiences, many of which were and still are chosen for you.
Picture this, when you imagine freedom of choice do you imagine multiple choice questions, a blank canvas, or some other visual metaphor?
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 6:22:41 PM No.24463639
>>24463104
Ah, so it is the same as the magic dirt theory.
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 6:35:43 PM No.24463664
>>24463433
yes, and I'm doubling down. Things will get significantly worse before they have any hope of getting better
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 9:03:48 PM No.24463934
>>24462108 (OP)
Women seem much fixated on this so called epidemic than males
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 11:20:00 PM No.24464204
>>24462166
You can't increase your height after 21. That's a potential blindspot you missed
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 11:22:32 PM No.24464208
>>24462821
Shouldn't be. It should be a lot harder for women to have sex than they currently have.
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 11:24:11 PM No.24464212
>>24463557
I wrote an essay on this and why men gravitate towards libertarian beliefs from a psychosocial perspective
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 11:25:12 PM No.24464213
>>24463634
Quiet Satan, I mean Spinoza
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 2:33:04 AM No.24464557
>>24462108 (OP)
>Books that explain this phenomenon?
Cormac McCarthy. The Crossing
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 3:41:09 AM No.24464716
>>24463934
>Women seem much fixated on this so called epidemic than males
women need men, and I mean bad.
a man? can work a normal job, have a little apartment, have fun as he sees fit.
why does this make women SEETHE so much?
answer: that man should be spending that time and money on ME!
which is all thats going on.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 3:43:24 AM No.24464720
>>24462799
>Yet so many of them don't.
No, they get it. They know better than anyone else. They just have regrets about their past and don't know how to cope with them except to say the guys who now don't want them are wrong. Deep down, they know they can't possibly expect a guy to care about someone else's kids.
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 3:57:16 AM No.24464746
>>24464716
Pot meet kettle. Here you are in a place for literature seething that women don’t want you
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 10:03:54 AM No.24465248
All of the traditional roles in a heterosexual relationships have been supplanted by the state and the market. All a woman needs to do is show up to her email job and she'll get by just fine. Partners don't really need each other, and the high value thing came about because "please don't make my life worse" standard went up, exponentially.
>>24463215
You don't see how engaging in those activities might be the reason you don't find irl socializing engaging? How does a steak taste after dessert?
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 10:34:55 AM No.24465270
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>>24462463
>chads chads chads waaagh women only care about chads
>>24463104
>you are either born a """""high-value""""" or you're not!!!!
>>24463616
>i am a slob because nobody talks to me! i am the consequence because of the action!
>>24464204
>height height height waaagh women only care about height
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 1:45:31 PM No.24465455
>>24465270
>>you are either born a """""high-value""""" or you're not!!!!
Did you even read my post?
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 2:16:18 PM No.24465492
>>24465248
>engaging in those activities might be the reason you don't find irl socializing engaging
Yes, I’m aware. I don’t care. I prefer my life to be drama free. Porn doesn’t shit test me for example.
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 6:16:10 PM No.24465990
>>24464746
Unalive yourself you faggot subhuman
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 12:12:25 AM No.24466943
>>24464746
>Pot meet kettle. Here you are in a place for literature seething that women don’t want you

nowhere did I say that. Why put words in my mouth. But I do stand by my assertion. A month spent "alone" with just me and my interests? That's a great month. To me. I'm past that whole "a hormone with two feet" phase young guys have.My guy friends by and large think it fine. Being honest? Its mainly random girlfriends and wives and mothers of the guys I know, that preach about it.
>
back to you. Why would you put those words in my mouth? Other than to create snark. I'm actually comfortable in social situations. I don't mind large crowds. The only thing different about me socially? Is that I don't "crave" constant social interaction.
>
once again. How could this possibly concern you, much less bug you. Typical liberal I guess, you have to create "problems", so you can push your "solutions".
>
Care to explain why you are trying to tell me how I feel, when I don't feel that way. I find you interesting in some odd way. Like I'm fascinated by some interesting looking insect.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:00:41 AM No.24467696
I know shitty dating apps won't necessarily be representative of the wider population but as a dude in my 30's trying online dating for the first time, my conclusion is there are very few good women left in the modern world.
Replies: >>24467740 >>24467996
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:39:43 AM No.24467738
Howard_Hamlin_infobox
Howard_Hamlin_infobox
md5: a989739435be586c55843e41716d12cf🔍
Girlfriend i could take or leave but not having any friends or anyone in my life to confide in or just hang out with will make me kill myself at some point.

If i could get a gf i'd be really happy too. I dont think the cards are on the table though.

I hadnt had regular social contact since elementary school. What should i do? I'm so depressed.

Sorey for not being able to out it firth more eloquently. I didnt even spend my exile getting wise, i just played vidya and podcasted a bunch.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:42:54 AM No.24467740
>>24467696
Online isn't the real world
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 10:52:45 AM No.24467986
>>24462108 (OP)
women are in a loneliness epidemic too
or at least they would have been if they were able form meaninful bonds with other human beings in the first place
Replies: >>24468173
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 11:01:19 AM No.24467996
>>24467696
why would good women use dating apps?
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 11:05:44 AM No.24468002
Beluga-Whale-Images
Beluga-Whale-Images
md5: 2ef9497512be66f955f9e415abdcefaf🔍
>>24464204
boo hoo hoo lil ass nigga.
you could have been patrtharsmajad and be stacked ten 5'2" guys high in a bangladeshi apartment with no ac, or ngyugwei and had both your arms choped off in the jungles of the congo.
life isn't fair. you didn't get that bad of a roll though if you're speaking the kings and posting on your 4channel account.
Replies: >>24468304 >>24468384
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 1:35:52 PM No.24468173
>>24467986
kek
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 3:19:30 PM No.24468304
>>24468002
how does that make his point less valid "nigga"
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 3:50:28 PM No.24468352
>>24462108 (OP)
Is it even possible to feel lonely when you’re surrounded by books?
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 4:05:10 PM No.24468372
>>24464204
You can't make yourself taller, but you can make other men shorter.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 4:13:02 PM No.24468380
>>24465270
Half-literate. I wasn't a slob before I chose the slob life because of its many benefits. When companionship is out of the realm of possibilities anyways, the downsides of the slob life become mostly negligible. It's like an epiphany,
>oh, it's fine that I missed the garbage truck. I'll remember next time.
>bathing once a day is fine, maybe two days in a row if I'm not going out
>yes this is the same coffee mug as yesterday
I've seen plenty of women's homes and know many are worse than I am in terms of cleanliness and hygiene so why should I feel even a modicum of shame?
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 4:15:19 PM No.24468384
>>24468002
This is happening on all levels of the hierarchy. It's a big crunch and we're in the bite.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 4:25:46 PM No.24468404
file
file
md5: 6e54dee9138b43905863add94b30b47e🔍
it's literally just immigration/ethnic diversity
Replies: >>24468466
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 4:26:32 PM No.24468406
>>24462108 (OP)
Its a reaction to the rejection of natural orders. By trying to eliminate a man's role in society to just be a sperm bank, a man loses all interest in society.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 4:33:23 PM No.24468410
>>24462108 (OP)
OK, femcel.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 4:34:23 PM No.24468412
>>24462166
>watched what they ear
Esl
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 4:36:07 PM No.24468416
>>24463616
That's disgusting, in all honesty. Get yourself a re up. You do have 100 usd, don't you?
Replies: >>24468804
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 4:49:50 PM No.24468431
>>24462108 (OP)
>open thread about male loneliness
>it's all kvetching about not having access to sex or women
Why does nobody care about having male friendships?
Replies: >>24468468
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:06:33 PM No.24468466
>>24468404
I live in a town with no diversity but everyone is still an NPC libtard so I still live like a turtle anyway.

Personally, I think it has more to do with diversity. Personally, I think life just sucks now. This civilization offers very little that even feels worthwhile let alone that can be reasoned to be worthwhile. Everything is fake and gay, nothing is worth dedicating time and effort to, and everyone is a retard, an NPC, or a psycho, or a selfish cunt. How can you not withdraw once you take stock of the situation? Look at publishing for example. It’s clearly a fucking disaster. I would wager even young men who might be otherwise so inclined to write a novel or the like just won’t even bother because the state of things are so bad and so they never do. No imagine this kind of dynamic has saturated every pursuit, industry, social engagement, the whole of our civilization. Seems obvious why people are lonely. They’re withdrawing from a pointless and ugly word populated by selfish and uninteresting people.
Replies: >>24468518 >>24468532 >>24470921
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:07:34 PM No.24468468
>>24468431
Friendships evaporate as you get older anyway. If you’re lucky you have a small group of guys you get together with a few times per year. Only thirdies and Meds regularly hang out in male friend groups for their whole lives.
Replies: >>24468469 >>24468519 >>24468623 >>24468927
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:08:46 PM No.24468469
>>24468468
this is true

t. med who lived in america for a long time
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:35:12 PM No.24468518
>>24468466
it's about what a culture as a whole is diversity destroys it, even if your area isn't diverse your culture has been degraded to facilitate diversity.

yeah there is more to it like the electric destruction of culture, fiat, le machine stuff which is all true as well but the #1 recent factor from the 60s on is ethnic warfare
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:35:59 PM No.24468519
>>24468468
>together with a few times per year
That's true, but really not only unavoidable, but redundant to meet up more often. We once did it, and found that once every two years is really the optimum, else there's "nothing to say".
Replies: >>24468592
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:43:25 PM No.24468532
>>24468466
massive trvke
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 6:08:22 PM No.24468592
>>24468519
dude if you don't feel confortable sitting there with them saying nothing they aren't friends
Replies: >>24468847
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 6:13:04 PM No.24468608
>>24462108 (OP)
I've been talking to an autistic girl I work with about this and she says she feels bad for men who are lonely, but that whenever she goes on the Internet she sees men who talk about how she is subhuman and should have no rights because she is a woman and has a disability. And she only goes on normie places like Youtube and Facebook. Why should most women care about the loneliness of people who laugh in the comments of a news story where people who look like them get murdered and raped? It's like with White Saviour types who keep talking about helping the poor Africans even as they scream "death to the Boer!"
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 6:16:45 PM No.24468623
>>24468468
>Only thirdies and Meds regularly hang out in male friend groups for their whole lives.
I am Greek and I noticed this. Basically, Meds and Jews and Arabs have enjoyable lives despite their other issues because they are always having get together parties but White dudes are allergic to socialising. They think they can off-source all their socialising to their wives but then they get annoyed with their wives and retreat to the garage to work on their car. It's like an entire civilisation with aspergers
Replies: >>24468738 >>24468744 >>24468840
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 6:45:56 PM No.24468738
>>24468623
>I am Greek
Can I start with you?
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 6:48:01 PM No.24468744
>>24468623
I'm white and I haven't had a male friend since 13 or something, my only friend is my fiance, but she drives me crazy sometimes. I think you're right about us.
Replies: >>24468756
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 6:52:56 PM No.24468756
>>24468744
It's kind of weird because it did not used to be like this. Boomers typically had friends and reading older /lit/ its clear that someone who was friendless was always an outlier in the past
Replies: >>24468792
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:05:54 PM No.24468792
>>24468756
because boomers lived during a period where not all of their masculine labour power was being outsourced to machines or the state. i've lived in both the US and the balkans. balkans are high trust and relatively happy because people still need to look out for each other to survive. in the US and the most developed parts of europe, nobody has to associate with anyone they don't want to. historically, this has cascaded into the protestant work ethic, puritanical repression. paranoia over age gaps, sexual paranoia in general, frivolous internet subcultures, meta-irony, obesity, so on. it really is a whole culture of absolute, touch averse lizards.
Replies: >>24468803 >>24468806
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:09:33 PM No.24468803
>>24468792
I am considered introverted by my cultural values and not big on being touchy feely. And still I notice that the Anglos are more isolated than me. They just feel atomized for lack of a better world. Some old black guy tried to arrange a barbecue for all the local kids in the area to make friends for his own granddaughter. The White parents (despite being very leftist and obsessed with being nice to black women) all refused to come
It kind of made me think. They could have come and had their kid play with the black girl and chatted to each other, learned something about each other beyond what they are named. But they chose not to
Replies: >>24468819
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:09:58 PM No.24468804
>>24468416
I actually think pitching in my 100 usd to get you a noose is a much more worth while investment. Grooming yourself like a prized pig gets you nothing besides a foot in the door, an opportunity to step onto the starting line. Neck yourself.
Replies: >>24468855
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:11:08 PM No.24468806
>>24468792
I think people will go out of their way not to socialize when not forced to by their life style. As it is, I think the work load also has something to do with it
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:11:42 PM No.24468808
>>24462146
Finally someone with some sense. Embrace your inner clockwork orange fellas. Self care first. Let the other starved wolf eat. Fucking thank you.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:14:21 PM No.24468819
>>24468803
I'm also Balkan and introverted and I still see these things. I've been to parties where people just look at their phones during breaks in conversation. I don't mean natural lulls in conversation, I'm not a sperg, I mean ask a question, get an answer, check your phone, then respond ten seconds later. There's no hope for them. They will never be able to step outside themselves.
Replies: >>24468824
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:16:10 PM No.24468824
>>24468819
Phones might just have destroyed normalfags. They are so addicted that they can not longer talk to each other, but the brain of the normalfag is not meant to handle a lack of human connection like an autist's can
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:23:40 PM No.24468840
>>24468623
We only meet up for war. You guys wanna do some war? We can raid a little.
Replies: >>24468844 >>24468874
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:24:31 PM No.24468844
>>24468840
That's a bit of a problem bro
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:24:55 PM No.24468847
>>24468592
I want correct myself: nothing [new] to say. We just repeated the same milestones and had the very same remarks each, so we decided on 2 calls per year and one meeting biannually. It's the optimum for us. Emails in between, often related to our field.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:26:52 PM No.24468855
>>24468804
Sure, I need more gardening tools, get over here. You can, of course, work here and hang yourself when your finished. Do make sure to combust yourself when you are ganging, so it's easier to scrap you away into the bin. Don't you dare come here looking like a pig, do get a re up first, filthy flea that you are.
Replies: >>24468880
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:31:45 PM No.24468874
>>24468840
I will only fight for a monarchy
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:33:29 PM No.24468880
>>24468855
>to get you a noose
>goes into a negative iq diatribe
Thanks for that. I am currently dead because I've burst from laughter. So, in a way, mission accomplished. Fucking epic.
Replies: >>24469033
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:46:35 PM No.24468927
>>24468468
>Meds
This is so true. The med social cafe culture is a lost art.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:46:50 PM No.24468929
>>24462108 (OP)
State enforced rape culture would end this.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:56:31 PM No.24468967
FB8AC4B5-03BB-4901-873A-90F1DF3CF7DE
FB8AC4B5-03BB-4901-873A-90F1DF3CF7DE
md5: 524ce976064ee587578d1b050c5d96e6🔍
>>24463934
>Oh, no, Chad has trauma and is all alone! I need to heal him with my vagina!
Replies: >>24468972
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:58:24 PM No.24468972
>>24468967
Where is the genderbent version of this so I can enjoy
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 8:18:55 PM No.24469028
>>24462166
This is actually the real poison. You get sold this retarded notion that if you try women who were not interested in you will become so. That's just not reality.
Replies: >>24469038 >>24470962
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 8:20:16 PM No.24469033
>>24468880
Ok. My garden is in the same it was before, I assume? Well, thanks for nothing, I guess.
Replies: >>24469056
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 8:21:17 PM No.24469038
>>24469028
>That's just not reality.
It seemingly is for plenty
Replies: >>24469043
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 8:23:52 PM No.24469043
>>24469038
Wow, a concept of a chance for a nebulous number of people? Why didn't you lead with that?
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 8:27:29 PM No.24469056
>>24469033
I wouldn't say that. There's a fair chance someone fertilized it with a number of c4 explosives at arbitrary intervals. Dig in!
Replies: >>24469160
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 9:20:30 PM No.24469160
>>24469056
>Dig in!
I might.
>c4
You fool, this isn't c4, it's obviously semtex!! Good for nothing.
Replies: >>24469202
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 9:39:16 PM No.24469197
>>24462166
Trvklear devastvtivn.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 9:41:11 PM No.24469202
>>24469160
What a hilarious fuck up. Let's all continue to look at the ground and just laugh and laugh
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/V0MU3bFxzk0
Replies: >>24469498
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 11:44:47 PM No.24469498
>>24469202
Beauty of destruction
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 6:07:22 AM No.24470335
male loneliness isn’t real, just admit you’re gay
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 12:22:12 PM No.24470833
fuck off to r9k
fuck off to r9k
md5: d9d6cc0bb577935bccf954d0d5a4df20🔍
>>24462108 (OP)
>men are in a loneliness epidemic
I'm not, just go outside retards
>should women care
no lmao why should they
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 12:23:17 PM No.24470835
>>24462146
Based glownigger
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 1:13:43 PM No.24470875
men have always been solitary, go read of mice and men, the only people in that who aren't lonely are that violent little manlet and the guy who has to tend to the tard, neither particularly happy. meanwhile the black guy stable hand has a nice stash of books and porn in his own room. sounds p comfy.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 1:15:13 PM No.24470879
>>24462108 (OP)
Men need to accept being vulnerable in male-male friendships and ditch any woman or man who tell them it's not "masculine" to have feelings.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 1:25:19 PM No.24470896
since this is a man thread recommend me a good electric shaver, last year upgrade my trusty old $70 norelco for one that cost like $150 assuming it would be an upgrade but it's not, recommend me one that's actually good i'd be willing to drop up to $300 but honestly there's probably a 50 dollar one that's better than the other shit
Replies: >>24470900
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 1:27:24 PM No.24470900
>>24470896
Do not use electric razors.
Replies: >>24470903
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 1:28:17 PM No.24470903
>>24470900
i can't shave with a regular razor sitting at my desk shitposting like i am rn
Replies: >>24470906
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 1:30:22 PM No.24470906
>>24470903
Your desk is going to be covered in hair, no?
Replies: >>24470909
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 1:31:47 PM No.24470909
>>24470906
>clearly never used an electric razor but has a strong opinion about them
electric razors capture the hair in the head dude lmao
Replies: >>24470910
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 1:33:53 PM No.24470910
>>24470909
Woah that's pretty nifty, you could shave in the car on the way to work
Replies: >>24470922
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 1:40:26 PM No.24470921
>>24468466
>Look at publishing for example.
You mean how a person can publish their writings online with minimal hassle, and reach an audience bigger than ever before? Face it, faggot, you chase external validation and your drivel isn't interesting to anyone.
Replies: >>24470928
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 1:40:43 PM No.24470922
>>24470910
with an electric razor u can shave anywhere u want
Replies: >>24470930
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 1:44:29 PM No.24470928
>>24470921
Why is everybody on this website always so nasty and mean to eachother? Is anonymity all it takes for us to descend into sneering bullies? It costs you nothing to be pleasant, anon.
Replies: >>24470931 >>24470938 >>24470950 >>24470974 >>24471299
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 1:45:58 PM No.24470930
>>24470922
I hope there arent whiskers here. Whiskers can be anywhere.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 1:46:08 PM No.24470931
>>24470928
Fuck you, nigger.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 1:53:47 PM No.24470938
>>24470928
Helps me write off my cropping loneliness, this feeling of superiority.
Replies: >>24470939 >>24470950
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 1:54:53 PM No.24470939
>>24470938
Crippling* fml. Ousted as a phone poster
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 2:03:28 PM No.24470950
>>24470928
Curb the narcissism. If you can't take criticism, then find somewhere else to be.

>>24470938
>projecting

Oof.
Replies: >>24470969
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 2:08:20 PM No.24470962
>>24469028
Maybe you should give it a try?
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 2:09:42 PM No.24470965
test
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 2:12:38 PM No.24470969
>>24470950
Nta, wasn't criticised. Just don't understand why they were spontaneously mean to him for seemingly no reason at all.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 2:16:00 PM No.24470974
>>24470928
>Is anonymity all it takes for us to descend into sneering bullies?
No. It wasn't like that on this site for the majority of its many, many years of existence. imo people ran to siloed filter bubbles and this site got left with dyspeptic schizos that write crap like that pathologically. The would, and often are, banned from everywhere else so use a captive anonymous audience to commune with.

But it definitely doesn't have to be this way and wasn't. Just civilization collapse comes for the Internet too.

t. oldfag weirdo, who is maybe also one of the bad ones
Replies: >>24470978
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 2:18:03 PM No.24470978
>>24470974
>it wasn't like that on this site for the majority of its many, many years of existence
bullllllshit dude lmao
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 2:52:03 PM No.24471020
>>24464212
Share it!!
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:15:39 PM No.24471299
>>24470928
All it takes for the toxic HR speak to take over the world is this attitude. I will take genuine schizo screeching over plastic platitudes 10 times out of 10 thus I will fight until my last breath, you stupid fucking cunt. Fuck you.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:30:41 PM No.24471330
>>24462746
This