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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 11:45:55 AM No.24465322
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Why does Plato compare the Form of the Good to the sun in the Allegory of the Cave?
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 11:46:58 AM No.24465325
>>24465322 (OP)
The sun allows vision by illuminating objects.

Without the sun, we cannot see clearly or at all.

But the sun does not create the objects; it just makes them visible and knowable.

The Form of the Good enables the mind to understand and know other Forms.

Just as the sun is the source of light, the Good is the source of truth and intelligibility.
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 12:53:48 PM No.24465392
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 12:58:22 PM No.24465396
>>24465322 (OP)
>And King Melchizedek of Salem brought out bread and wine; he was priest of God Most High.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 1:01:47 PM No.24465398
>>24465396
Based
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 1:08:55 PM No.24465405
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I have seen these filenames before. What's your endgame? Why do you want to stand out so much?
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 1:17:05 PM No.24465419
>>24465405
Ultimately, my goal is to serve God and be with Him in heaven, It's getting good with me.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 1:19:22 PM No.24465421
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 1:35:19 PM No.24465441
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Don't you think that the person who is likely to succeed in this attempt most perfectly is the one who approaches each object, as far as possible with the unaided intellect, without taking account of any sense of sight in his thinking, or dragging any other sense into his reckoning - the man who pursues the truth by applying his pure and unadulterated thought to the pure and unadulterated object, cutting himself off as much as possible from his eyes and ears and virtually all the rest of his body, as an impediment which by its presence prevents the soul from attaining to truth and clear thinking? Is not this the person, Simmias, who will reach the goal of reality if anyone can?
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 1:42:01 PM No.24465450
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The initiates are certainly given hints to the existence of a secret doctrine. Cornford is right to say that Socrates' failure to define knowledge in propositional terms in the Theaetetus definitely points the way towards the inadequacy of propositional knowledge to attain the final revelation. The revelation is the direct acquaintance knowing of the Forms, but of course this is left unstated. In passages, from the Republic, there is an indication that the truths revealed by dialectic are not ultimate. Socrates tells Glaucon that it appears that dialectic brings us to the end of philosophical enquiry. However, he then hints that there is a further path to ultimate knowledge that dispenses with images and symbols and attains truth directly. Glaucon is then told that, despite having the will to do so, Socrates is unable to show him this path:

[Q27] Tell me, then, what is the nature of this faculty of dialectic? Into what divisions does it fall? And what are its ways? For it is these, it seems, that would bring us to the place where we may, so to speak, rest on the road and then come to the end of our journeying. You will not be able, dear Glaucon, to follow me further, though on my part there will be no lack of good will. And, if I could, I would show you, no longer an image and symbol of my meaning, but the very truth as it appears to me.

This evidently hints at the type of intuition Kant denies in the Inaugural Dissertation when he observes, "No intuition of things intellectual but only a symbolic [discursive] knowledge of them is given to man".
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 1:44:18 PM No.24465453
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>>24465396
The Phoenician Sydyk was equated with Roman Jupiter, and hence it has been suggested that Sydyk was connected to the worship of the planet Jupiter as the manifestation of justice or righteousness.

The name is composed from the two elements: melek(h), 'king', and ṣedeq, which means either 'righteousness' or the proper name Zedek. With the addition of the hiriq compaginis (-ī) indicating the archaic construct form, malk-ī means 'king of', so that the name literally translates to 'king of righteousness' or 'my king is Zedek', indicating that he worshipped Zedek, a Canaanite deity worshipped in pre-Israelite Jerusalem.:58 The latter, however, is often dismissed, although Robert R. Cargill has recently argued in favour of that etymology. Mainstream scholarly understanding of these names ("My King is Righteousness" and "My Lord is Righteousness" respectively) is that they refer to the concept of righteousness and not to a god.

In Jewish mysticism, a parallel concept is that of Chokhmah Ila'ah, which is the all-encompassing Supernal Wisdom that transcends, orders, and vitalises all of creation. Rabbi Nachman of Breslov states that this sublime wisdom may be apprehended by a perfect tzaddik (righteous man). Thus, the tzaddik attains cosmic consciousness and thus is empowered to mitigate all division and conflict within creation.
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 1:44:45 PM No.24465454
>>24465450
>>24465441
Based
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 1:49:46 PM No.24465460
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The expression 'unwritten doctrines' (in Greek: ἄγραφα δόγματα, ágrapha dógmata) refers to doctrines of Plato taught inside his school and was first used by his student Aristotle. In his treatise on physics, he wrote that Plato had used a concept in one dialogue differently than 'in the so-called unwritten doctrines.'

Aristotle, Physics, 209b13–15.

Konrad Gaiser: Prinzipientheorie bei Platon

Konrad Gaiser
Platons Ungeschriebene Lehre.

Christina Schefer: Platons unsagbare Erfahrung, Basel 2001

Konrad Gaiser: Plato’s enigmatic lecture ‚On the Good‘.

German philosopher Wilhelm Gottlieb Tennemann proposed in his 1792–95 System of Plato's Philosophy that Plato had never intended that his philosophy should be entirely represented in written form.

1808, August Boeckh, who later became a well-known Greek scholar, stated in an edition of Schleiermacher's Plato translations that he did not find the arguments against the unwritten doctrines persuasive.
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 2:07:21 PM No.24465479
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 2:07:54 PM No.24465482
>>24465419
That's based, keep it up!
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 2:16:03 PM No.24465491
>>24465482
Don't worry honey, I serve God not people
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 2:31:51 PM No.24465509
>>24465322 (OP)
Why does Plato liken the Form of the Good to the sun in the Allegory of the Cave? Because just as the sun enables sight by illuminating the visible world, the Form of the Good enables knowledge by illuminating the intelligible realm, it is the source of truth, understanding, and reality itself.
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 2:33:00 PM No.24465511
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 3:18:28 PM No.24465583
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 3:33:30 PM No.24465614
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 3:51:19 PM No.24465646
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 4:02:27 PM No.24465670
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 4:07:37 PM No.24465681
>>24465405
His goal is to be as cringe as possible in his faux pursuit of big sky daddy by samefagging in his own threads. As I said, this is what happens when you ban bullying in schools. Kids don't develop social self awareness
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 5:24:39 PM No.24465855
>>24465681
Yep, serving God by spamming on 4chan like a retard