Is this actually worth reading if I'm interested in World War I and World War II era history? I've seen people say the prose is really bad.

>>24468086 (OP)
It's fun

It's fun but it probably won't teach you anything about Uncle Adolf that you don't already know.

>>24468087
>>24468088
I have more often seen people describe the book as very boring and dry.

>>24468092
He is a very passionate man and that is how he writes. But if you are not interested in history and politics it will be boring

>>24468086 (OP)
The first book regarding his personal life (usually cut by editors to save space) is actually much better than the second book (the proper "political one) that is mostly just a outdated rant over the early 20s european geopolitics

>>24468086 (OP)
I started reading it yesterday and it’s not that bad, it gives a little more context as to why he thinks what he does (he used to be skeptical of antisemitism for example before several incidents changed that for him).

I’m only 100 pages in but it’s decent, I recommend the Stalag edition as it’s the only official one the Germans produced in English, many other ones aren’t faithful translations or abridgments so watch out

>>24468086 (OP)
read the thomas dalton translation

>I've seen people say the prose is really bad.
I unironically heard this from one of my jewish grade school tree teachers as well. How can anyone make that judgement from a translation? If you’re interested in the period it’s worth reading. If you read it you’ll laugh anytime you hear someone liken a modern politician to hitler. You’ll laugh harder when you see some skinhead on fourchin trying to sell you the ‘hitler wanted peace’ cope

>>24468593
The prose is ugly according to most German speakers I know, but that's to be expected from a militant politician who liked visual art. think it is really important as a historical document but not as a literary piece

>>24468789
you can't trust germans in this matter

>>24468086 (OP)
I understand Mein Kampf to be a manifesto and propaganda. People get hung up on antisemitism but most notable men in history were antisemitic, Martin Luther and Henry Ford come to mind.
It is worth reading if you are interested in WWI & WWII history.
As a side note, after reading the Bible I am beginning to believe Hitler was acting as the hand of God to spank the asses of the jews. Every 50 to 150 years the jews need their shit pushed in for their disloyalty to God, frequently abandoning the covenant they made with God. After a good ass kicking the jews fall into line with God, make advances for their people creating good times, but as always they fall into mischief. Judging that it's been around 80 years since WWII, I think the world is gearing up for another jew ass kicking. There are plenty of examples in the Old Testament of God empowering the enemies of Isreal when the jews get a little too rambunctious. Thoughts?

>>24468807
>Can't trust Germans on their own language
I don't trust Germans in general because they are ugly and committed the Holocaust and the rape of Poland, but come on

>>24468878
Hitler was possessed by the devil; this is not unique as most Germanic men are but he had too much power for his own good.

>>24468894
You sure it was the devil? How do you know the difference between acting by the will of God or the will of the devil?

>>24468907
Where God walks there beauty lies. German men have weak chins and pinkish skin, so they can never be anything but the products of the devil. The Hindus revealed this with the story of the First White man, and how he was raped by a Deviless. Today some White man are of pure lineage but many are descendants of the Deviless. By Hitler's face, writing style, and general effects on the world I know that his lineage was impure

>>24468924
This is the main argument for Jews being Chosen people. If you visit Tel Aviv you will be stunned at how beautiful they are. Meanwhile the diaspora Jews are largely plain-looking and nerdy. There's some kind of energy there that heals the wounds of their suffering, a spirit of the locality that always waited for them and wanted them back. That's why the Druze fight for them, they feel like they are brothers.

>>24468086 (OP)
Mein Kampf starts as an autobiography and then around a third of the way through starts to morph into a politcal manifesto.
The autobiographical part is definitly interesting, I didn't find it much of a chore to read.
The manifesto part is quite a slog, frustrating to read but still interesting as a window into Hitler's mind.
The frequent clammoring about jews is eye-rolling, but even more ridiculous is the kraut wewuzzery.
The similarity to black hotep wewuzzery is striking, but I recently learned W.E.B DuBois went to Germany in the 1890's and basically copied Houston Stewart Chamberlain's Nordicists ideas that later inspired the nazis, only he swapped the races leading to the we wuz kangs phenomenon of today.

>>24468884
okay, then don't trust them for that reason then. all i'm saying is that their opinions on hitler are invalid and should be disregarded.

>>24468807
I‘ve mostly heard it from academics who have a vested interest in, well, lying. The average German on the street can‘t get a copy that isn‘t interrupted by 2/3 handwringing.

Reading the Dalton dual language I give him a B for prose. Sometimes shoots a little high for his intended purpose but it‘s compelling, if not quite poetic or novelist quality. Far above the average political memoir.

>>24468894
>>24468924
>>24468964
Retarded jew dribble

>>24468980
nta but im german and i wasnt tought opinions by any of my history teachers. actually hitler himself wasnt even mentioned much because you mostly talk about the war in a broader sense, focusing on the economics and society of the time. then again i might have been lucky with my teachers and family situation because both my grandfather were historians who also experienced the time first hand.
the only teacher teaching us opinions was my christian religions teacher. was pretty vocal about disliking pretty much anything else besides catholic christianity. shes probably one of the reasons why im not religious nowadays. thanks for reading my blog.

>>24468884
Poland is literally built for rape; Clausewitz had a whole segment detailing this in terms of geography and historic trajectory. It‘s just a question of whether it‘ll be done by their cultured German neighbors or one of two international jew empires as has been the case for the last 80 years.

>>24468924
You did not answer my question.
>Where God walks there beauty lies.
This is insufficient.
>>24468964
I understand the jews to be God's chosen people because they were the most pathetic, that if God could love and favor them then He could love anyone. Thoughts?

>>24469058
>I understand the jews to be God's chosen people because they were the most pathetic, that if God could love and favor them then He could love anyone. Thoughts?
My take is that they are the only ones who engage with him properly. Israel means "to struggle with God" and essentially God really wants us to have free will, but most people are too tied down with various ancestral curses to do so properly. A good example are the Russians, their problems all come from their ancestral curses
>>24469050
I am Polish and I barely regard Germans as human, much less cultured. Go out into a street in Germany, and the grotesque obesity of this so called master race will strike your heart with such violence that the truly cultured man cannot help but weep

>>24469078
Least buckbroken pole

>>24468086 (OP)
You really are not missing out if you do not read it. Mein Kampf is indeed as boring and poorly-written (and poorly-dictated, at that), as is often said. Go ahead, knock yourself out, but the only people who have any business reading it the whole way through are academics... and neo-Nazis, unfortunately.

>>24468086 (OP)
Nah, just consume a summery. Or maybe listen to an audio book on x2 speed if there is one available m.

>>24468878
Interesting theory, please elaborate.
>>24468894
Real schizos know he was possessed by the spirit of Wotan.

I have the English translation made by a jewish guy
In the translator’s introduction he says that German grammar is complicated enough to allow for really long, but still understandable, sentences
English is simpler and so a translator has to deal with problems like “do I break this up into two sentences, or do I leave it as-is (and leave it too hard to follow?)
He also said Hitler was a big fan of long sentences like that because it was the style of the newspapers he read in Austria and he liked that style
Mark Twain complains about some of this in “The Awful German Language” and my German friends say that that style of writing is passé

>>24468086 (OP)
Read it now and join our rising ranks,
Perhaps you will get to drive the tanks,
As we form a new empire,
Rising like Promethean fire,
Borders moving every day,
To weak peoples we do say,
Get in the mine and start to dig,
You're a slave, and our empire's big,
Hooked cross on every flag,
And the conquests do not lag,
Only the Leader is praised now,
No longer to false God will we bow,
So we avenge that eternal soul
Who in the town of Brannau rose
And we'll stop this modern degeneracy,
Our Empire will stretch from Sea to Sea.

>>24468086 (OP)
No. Real Browning and Hilberg instead. Then any decent text on the Atlantic and Pacific submarine / long range air patrol campaigns.

>>24468807
I read that Hitler himself wasn't too happy with the way it turned out and had remarked that he wasn't really satisfied with his writing skills from when he wrote it. But that is pretty common for writers looking back at their younger writing.

>>24468110

The two halves of the complete two-volume work, his autobiography and his vision for politics, in fact straddle both volumes somewhat evenly, although he does give attention to the details of party-building in the second volume. Even though he talks about the practical details of party-building in V.2, he personalizes it and keeps it about himself. He spends a good deal of time describing how they rented out meeting halls and steadily filled rooms with larger and larger audiences. So it's both the actual building of the party, but he places himself at the center of that activity, making the political movement itself autobiographical.

My point is that I don't see much value in trying to separate Mein Kampf across the two volumes by concluding that one volume is pure autobiography while the other volume is purely practical. Both aspects of the work are present in both volumes, more or less consistently.

Kill yourself you nazi fucks

>>24468593
Even Germans of the time thought it was crap and didn't buy it all nazi apologists should take two shotgun blasts to the head

>>24470280
I don't have much to say beyond my original post. I've been mulling it over for a few weeks.
I looked up the books, in Chronicles 1 - 2 and kind of in Kingdoms 1 -4 the Bible details the succession of rulers over Israel. It is a cycle:
>good ruler
>jews have good times with God
>jews start abandoning covenant with God breaking all the 10 Commandments
>fast forward anywhere from 50 to 250 years (usually 100 years or so)
>God works in mysterious ways
>jews start getting their shit pushed in by outside forces, sometimes directly stated as God guiding the actions of non-jews to kick them into action
>a jew rises to lead their people
>jews gain ground
>jews return to God and bring good times
>jews fall back to their mischievous ways and start the cycle over again
The really good rulers are rare, the normal good leaders might stem the tide of faithlessness but do not fully commit to God's laws, such as not cutting down sacred groves within their lands or not removing idol worship on hills. It creates a downward wave eventually culminating to a jewish renaissance of sorts where things are really good, but never for long.
If I am lying or reading things wrong, let me know. I tried talking to my Mom about this but she is really pro-jews, pro-Israel so it's hard to bounce ideas off of her.
The reason God might have been working through Hitler was to punish the jews. For what? I don't know. Please help me.

>>24470276
There is in fact an audio book of it on YouTube with an AI Hitler voice speaking English reading it.

>>24468092
I’m not a Hitler apologist but judging by how people act and talk, I’m ready to bet my left ball that 90% of people criticizing Mein Kampf have never read a single page

>>24468987
mein-kampf-edition.de
it's all online and nobody forces you to read annotations

>>24470280
>Real schizos know he was possessed by the spirit of Wotan.
Wotan was probably the Christian devil as we know him. There's something very Luciferian about his depictions in later tradition compared to the old Slavic gods. Real Poles like myself know this
>>24470717
I have. Not much different from any other racist screed but the overuse of the word "gelatinous" really got me laughing

>>24469083
Buckbroken by who? We are the ones who won against Germany in the end and Germany has never recovered. We were too nice to rape their women but most Germans today are part Slav thanks to our poor brothers the Rus

>>24470429
Levi, I‘m going to have to dock your pay if you can‘t make yourself a little more inconspicuous.

>>24471843
>We are the ones who won against Germany in the end

lol

>most Germans today are part Slav

The delusions such an insignificant people need just to live with themselves

>>24468086 (OP)
I may apply to the whole of Europe what I have just said of France, and conclude that modern civilization includes far more than it absorbs; in this it resembles the Roman Empire. Hence one cannot be confident that our state of society will last; and I see a clear proof of this in the smallness of its hold even over the classes raised a little above the country population. Our civilization may be compared to the temporary islands thrown up in the sea by submarine volcanoes. Exposed as they are to the destructive action of the currents, and robbed of the forces that first kept them in position, they will one day break up, and their fragments will be hurled into the gulf of the all-conquering waves. It is a sad end, and one which many noble races before ourselves have had to meet. The blow cannot be turned aside; it is inevitable. The wise man may see it coming, but can do nothing more. The most consummate statesmanship is not able for one moment to counteract the immutable laws of the world.

>>24471854
Bro, the only cope is the denial that Germany got blonder after the rape of Berlin

>>24471873
> Slavs are the virile blonde-haired barbarians of our days of whom everyone thinks they want to destroy civilization, but will actually end up saving it
You may be onto something.

>>24471873
A claim was literally made that most Germans are part slav because of a rape wave in one city which mostly targeted children and old ladies who couldn‘t move west. Even the prime-aged women caught in it largely killed themselves or certainly aborted any offspring. Needing to seethe this hard at Germany for briefly assigning Poland to its realm of historical significance is insane.

>>244718850
>virile blonde-haired barbarians
Except we aren't really barbarians. Even today, we have way more people who read and enjoy cultured hobbies than in the west, we are more like a temporary time bubble of a less decayed culture.
I do think we will end up having a role to play though

>>24471889
Who is seething? I am stating the truth.

>>24471889
The anon above is talking out of his ass, East Germans are arguably part Slav, but not because of WW2 but because Slavic tribes actually lived in the area during the Middle Ages (and still live, look up the Sorbs).
>>24471893
The modern world needs white-skinned barbarians. If it ain't the Slavs, it's no one.

>>24471897
Do the Jews and Druze count? Even the Ashkenazim are kind of brown by Poland's standards but there is a whole bunch of liberals who insist they are White

>>24471905
Barbarians who appeared seemingly out of nothing in comparably recent eras. No the Jews don't count, any of the old world people doesn't count. The state of the Germanic races resembles that of the Romans during the Late Roman Empire. They are the classical civilized but decaying race of our days, waiting for an elite of white conquerors to save their doomed civilization.

>>24471915
The last white, wild pagans are various groups living in Siberia but they are small in number and still have fucking witch-burnings.

>>24468086 (OP)
it's more readable than Marx, or at least the English translation is

as an avid WW2 reader for quite some time, I read Mein Kampf relatively late in my "study" because I thought I didn't have to, most summaries had already covered it, nicht wahr? but after reading it I found a few important points that provided much better perspective to my understanding of Hitler's strategy for WW2

these were
1) Hitler firmly believed that he could cow the British into becoming his flunkies post-Dunkirk, and then later post-Sealion, and then later post-Blitz. this explained his obsession with terrorising the British and then coming to them with diplomatic overtures, which frankly appears to have confused the British more than anything else
in fact, Mein Kampf was probably his first attempt to get Britain to capitulate without firing a shot

2) Hitler firmly believed that his Uboats, striking from Brest, could strangle Britain. this explains the huge investment into Uboats and total disregard for any other naval doctrine, such as an attempt at a German Kantai Kessen

3) Hitler lays out his ultimate vision of the world with the Axis and the British under his boot and all other nations basically enslaved, particularly the French whom he hated nearly as much as Jews

I don't recall much discussion about armour, artillery and airpower, the latter must certainly have been touched upon, so I might reread it sometime looking for

>>24470280
>Interesting theory, please elaborate
there's a constant cycle beginning with Judges of the Jews sinning, then God raising up an enemy to conquer them, then them repenting, rebelling and overthrowing the enemy
Ezekiel and Lamentations is basically the Jews getting utterly obliterated almost more thoroughly than the Shoah by the Babylonians
pretty grim reading actually
of course, the Christian Bible ends before the final obliteration courtesy of the Romans

on the other hand, one shouldn't be quick to identify oneself as the God-appointed punishers of Jews, because the same books are just as emphatic in stating that they are merely instruments and will be obliterated themselves in turn

>>24470383
>one of us one of us

>>24471843
>Buckbroken by who?
your people spent most of the 21st century getting mini-shoah'd first by Germans and then by Russians; as many Poles died in WW2 as did Jews

>>24471920
>your people spent most of the 21st century getting mini-shoah'd first by Germans and then by Russians; as many Poles died in WW2 as did Jews
True, but we survived and endured after that. I don't think Germany can survive what it did. Even the yammering of the liberal Germans (accusing Poland of being racist, accusing Jews of genocide, calling Putin a Nazi) screams ancestral guilt that they have to push onto their own victims
Otherwise they can't feel like they can justify breathing.
Which is silly, I don't think any Muslim feels that way despite being a civilisation of servile paedophile followers

>>24471924
>the yammering of the liberal Germans
is because there are significant material benefits to wokeshit, that's all
>I don't think any Muslim feels that way
because they have zero guilt whatsoever

>>24471919
I mean, Tacitus describes us the Germanic tribes of his time as fairly civilized actually, just leading a more simple way of life. I'm not asking for literal ooga boogas, though those Siberian tribes you mentioned may come to play the role of the Normans and the Anglo-Saxons in the early Middle Ages. In a day many Centuries from now, they would come to establish themselves as the crowned Kings and nobilities in a Western Europe where the plebeian masses have long become part Slavic. The old Western culture would no longer play a role, other than the odd shadow life the ancients still lead among us.

>>24471941
Interesting view of things.
I kind of still wish for a return of the monarchies, the Persian king is vying to return to Iran and the last descendant of the Tsar is on the battlefield in Ukraine right about now

>>24471936
I've seen a theory woke people are just opportunistic generational sociopaths. A lot of them were descended from Nazis but now use woke as an excuse to attack the same ethnic groups as before.
They may actually have their roots in a Jew-eating cult I studied under a professor in Ukraine before the war but that is some fucking schizo shit that most people won't believe

>>24471924
>True, but we survived and endured after that.

By becoming America‘s east-facing satellite state with the natural consequences to follow.

>>24471963
Honestly I think lonely men are more to blame. They will block the male migrants and take the Philipina maids

The third chapter is good. The rest is meh.

You'll like the second chapter if you're interested in ww1. It covers his time in the military.

>>24472336
Agreeable assessment, but Hitler probably lied about more than a few things while depicting his early life.

>>24469058
There was no "because" for God chosing a people, the thing that made them special was being chosen by God. You cannot have some uncreated special characteristic that makes you less of a dust-mote degenerate son of Adam in the eyes of God. God chose and that is the distinction. Jews are as pathetic as they are for much the same reason anyone is, but in a theologically, geopolitically and culturally concentrated form. They experienced centuries of forgetting that they owed everything to God despite being reminded of it constantly by the sufferings and failures they endured in their sins and when God incarnated as Jesus and grafted the Jew and Gentile together in the possibility of salvation, the Jews still so thoroughly believed that they were chosen for being special - rather than special for being chosen - that they thought they could tell God that he isn't God for showing a mercy to gentiles that they weren't willing to share. Everything the Jews have done to the gentiles since has been a childish effort to avenge the fact that God doesn't hate gentiles in a unique way that prevents them from going to Heaven. Every knee will bow in the end, the struggle is to be concerned with what that means for you instead of constantly afraid of enraged by Zionists thinking they can circumvent it.
>>24469078
The entire Bible is a series of events where the Jews do not do anything properly as a microcosm of humanity needing Jesus not just as a guide to doing it right, but as the only actual way to a real salvation. We have not saved ourselves, we cannot save ourselves. The struggle with God must end with submission.

>>24468086 (OP)
It was written by Jesuits, Hitler didn't even write it.

Also, socialism is for fags. And nazism (national socialism) is left-wing. And socialists shit their pants when you don't buy into their phony "political spectrum" with communism (socialism) on the far-left and nazism (socialism) far-right; (or where the entire spectrum is socialist faggotry).

>>24473525
>It was written by Jesuits, Hitler didn't even write it
this is like saying your entire post was written by the OED
moron

>>24473559
>nooo hitler had to have written it
He was a faggot socialist and failed art student, puppet of Jesuits who waged war on Europe.

He didn't write it. Cope, nazi faggot.

>>24473657
>hurr durr Hitler was a puppet MKAY
Seems you're the Nazi faggot here

>>24473749
How, when I'm telling you socialism is for fags? Hitler was a puppet and a coward. You're a fucking retard. I guess you need it to be written by him for your fragile world view or something, loser.