Anonymous
6/15/2025, 4:50:47 PM No.24468434
Give me one valid epistemic argument for why you shouldn't kill yourself right this second
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 4:52:48 PM No.24468440
lack of hindsight allows for the possibility of epistemic clarity that would justify not doing it
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 4:55:08 PM No.24468443
>>24468434 (OP)
I don't want to right now. Therefore I cannot discount the possibility that even if at some point in the future I do want to at some later point I would not want to.
I don't want to right now. Therefore I cannot discount the possibility that even if at some point in the future I do want to at some later point I would not want to.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:03:41 PM No.24468460
>>24468434 (OP)
i’m looking forward to breakfast tomorrow
i’m looking forward to breakfast tomorrow
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:06:09 PM No.24468465
You didn't understand Camus if you are still looking for an epistemic justufication.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:15:25 PM No.24468483
>>24468434 (OP)
I contribute to society, therefore my death would be a net loss for everybody
I contribute to society, therefore my death would be a net loss for everybody
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:15:49 PM No.24468484
>>24468434 (OP)
Whether you should or not kill yourself from an epistemic standpoint is all but irrelevant. Your central nervous system has evolved and refined itself over hundreds of millions of years to accomplish one task : keep you alive for as long as possible. The act of killing yourself is a biological aberration that will never find any justification in philosophy because it goes against everything that exists in the cosmos itself, and which contributed to your incarnation here and now. Thought mechanics are powerless to deconstruct a law that is as universal and tangible as time and space : the imperative to keep living.
Whether you should or not kill yourself from an epistemic standpoint is all but irrelevant. Your central nervous system has evolved and refined itself over hundreds of millions of years to accomplish one task : keep you alive for as long as possible. The act of killing yourself is a biological aberration that will never find any justification in philosophy because it goes against everything that exists in the cosmos itself, and which contributed to your incarnation here and now. Thought mechanics are powerless to deconstruct a law that is as universal and tangible as time and space : the imperative to keep living.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:27:18 PM No.24468503
>>24468484
>keep you alive for as long as possible
Wrong. It has evolved to keep you alive long enough to produce offspring. If you fail to do that or have already successfully done that, by the biological argument, you should kill yourself.
>keep you alive for as long as possible
Wrong. It has evolved to keep you alive long enough to produce offspring. If you fail to do that or have already successfully done that, by the biological argument, you should kill yourself.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:34:14 PM No.24468514
>>24468503
Producing offspring is only part of the equation. The biological imperative keeps you alive to the very end to cater for your offspring, protect the members of your tribe, secure terrestrial dominance, ensure your peers produce offspring and protect them in turn, etc. Humans did not evolve to simply pass on their DNA and die out in an individualist fashion. Life thrives in communities and gregariousness, at least in most mammals. Your argument is an egoistical one completely removed from the realities of life from the way it evolved. Get out of your own head, you're not the center of the world.
Producing offspring is only part of the equation. The biological imperative keeps you alive to the very end to cater for your offspring, protect the members of your tribe, secure terrestrial dominance, ensure your peers produce offspring and protect them in turn, etc. Humans did not evolve to simply pass on their DNA and die out in an individualist fashion. Life thrives in communities and gregariousness, at least in most mammals. Your argument is an egoistical one completely removed from the realities of life from the way it evolved. Get out of your own head, you're not the center of the world.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:59:51 PM No.24468568
>>24468434 (OP)
what kind of retarded question is that?
what kind of retarded question is that?
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 6:02:15 PM No.24468579
>>24468460
But what if you won't eat breakfast tomorrow?
But what if you won't eat breakfast tomorrow?
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 6:22:36 PM No.24468648
>>24468503
>If you fail to do that or have already successfully done that, by the biological argument, you should kill yourself.
there are plenty of reasons to stay alive after mating or ”failing” to mate, even within your edgelord line of reasoning.
>If you fail to do that or have already successfully done that, by the biological argument, you should kill yourself.
there are plenty of reasons to stay alive after mating or ”failing” to mate, even within your edgelord line of reasoning.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:02:26 PM No.24468782
>>24468434 (OP)
I think I maybe have a shot at getting with this lady that shops at my grocery store.
I think I maybe have a shot at getting with this lady that shops at my grocery store.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:13:07 PM No.24468816
>>24468484
>>24468514
>life is worth it because we're biological robots
I'm glad scientism morons like you aren't on the other end of the suicide hotline. Imagine subjecting some poor sap down on his luck to your drivel while you inform him the only purpose of his existence is to be alive and spread his cells all around lol.
>>24468514
>life is worth it because we're biological robots
I'm glad scientism morons like you aren't on the other end of the suicide hotline. Imagine subjecting some poor sap down on his luck to your drivel while you inform him the only purpose of his existence is to be alive and spread his cells all around lol.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:19:49 PM No.24468833
>>24468465
Not OP, I read Camus and he's just another nihilistic goober, so no I don't think I'll take after him.
Not OP, I read Camus and he's just another nihilistic goober, so no I don't think I'll take after him.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:23:40 PM No.24468841
>>24468484
>The act of killing yourself is a biological aberration
oh no, not the heckin' blind and irrational force that brought me into existence!!!
>The act of killing yourself is a biological aberration
oh no, not the heckin' blind and irrational force that brought me into existence!!!
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 11:15:34 PM No.24469421
>>2446883395
>I read Camus and he's just another nihilistic goober
How much of Camus have you read Anon?
>I read Camus and he's just another nihilistic goober
How much of Camus have you read Anon?
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 11:17:37 PM No.24469426
>>24468833
>I read Camus and he's just another nihilistic goober
How much of Camus have you read Anon? I can see why you could come to that conclusion after only reading his early work.
>I read Camus and he's just another nihilistic goober
How much of Camus have you read Anon? I can see why you could come to that conclusion after only reading his early work.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 11:33:53 PM No.24469460
If life is meaningless then death is meaningless too, simple as that. You don't need evidence because it's obvious. If death is meaningless, you might as well stop jerking off to furry inflation porn and get a job.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 2:28:36 PM No.24470986
I want everyone else to die first.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 2:43:54 PM No.24471004
>>24470988
He read a summary of a philosophy book on Wikipedia & now thinks he's the shizzle.
He read a summary of a philosophy book on Wikipedia & now thinks he's the shizzle.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 2:48:09 PM No.24471010
>>24468434 (OP)
The balance between the intensity of my desire to live and the degree of restriction of my freedom doesn't motivate me to end it at the moment.
The balance between the intensity of my desire to live and the degree of restriction of my freedom doesn't motivate me to end it at the moment.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 2:49:09 PM No.24471012
>>24468579
W-what? Dont eat breakfast? What a ridiculous proposition, whoever heard of such a thing
W-what? Dont eat breakfast? What a ridiculous proposition, whoever heard of such a thing
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 2:49:16 PM No.24471013
That eternal nothingness that awaits us all is scary.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 2:53:33 PM No.24471023
>>24468434 (OP)
Because I dont want to die
Because I dont want to die
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 2:59:34 PM No.24471038
I have yet to get laid. I'm 36.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 3:00:58 PM No.24471041
>>24468434 (OP)
I have a date with your mom in two hours and would hate missing it.
I have a date with your mom in two hours and would hate missing it.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 3:19:00 PM No.24471065
>>24471013
You wish it was eternal nothingness. The horrible truth is, we come back here and go through it again, because Earth is a prison for another civilization.
You wish it was eternal nothingness. The horrible truth is, we come back here and go through it again, because Earth is a prison for another civilization.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 3:26:39 PM No.24471075
>>24468434 (OP)
What does epistemic mean? Knowledge? Truth value or something? I always forget because I'm not smart. My argument against suicide is that if you commit suicide you don't get to watch YouTube videos anymore and that would be kind of gay because there are lots of fun YouTube videos being released all the time to watch like speedrun history videos or OneyPlays compilations or videos about Minecraft fun facts or whatever. Also, you could just eat all your favourite foods all the time and get really fat instead of killing yourself. Ez, I won the argument!
What does epistemic mean? Knowledge? Truth value or something? I always forget because I'm not smart. My argument against suicide is that if you commit suicide you don't get to watch YouTube videos anymore and that would be kind of gay because there are lots of fun YouTube videos being released all the time to watch like speedrun history videos or OneyPlays compilations or videos about Minecraft fun facts or whatever. Also, you could just eat all your favourite foods all the time and get really fat instead of killing yourself. Ez, I won the argument!
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 3:44:52 PM No.24471104
>>24471091
For Christ's sake, I literally posted the cover of the book that explains it in great detail. You're being willfully ignorant at this point. You're so dense, light bends around you.
For Christ's sake, I literally posted the cover of the book that explains it in great detail. You're being willfully ignorant at this point. You're so dense, light bends around you.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 3:50:07 PM No.24471112
>>24471104
But that is science fiction. We need proof
But that is science fiction. We need proof
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 3:57:58 PM No.24471125
>>24471075
I think he means universal. Asceticism is the answer he needs but doesn't want.
I think he means universal. Asceticism is the answer he needs but doesn't want.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 4:20:36 PM No.24471184
>>24468434 (OP)
I want to read more PKD novels.
I want to read more PKD novels.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 6:02:42 PM No.24471387
>>24471013
>eternal nothingness
no such thing. a wave doesn’t go into some state of nothingness when it hits the shore, it was just a thing the ocean did. same with consciousness, the universe looks for a little while then stops.
>eternal nothingness
no such thing. a wave doesn’t go into some state of nothingness when it hits the shore, it was just a thing the ocean did. same with consciousness, the universe looks for a little while then stops.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 7:37:25 PM No.24471573
>>24468443
Was so overwhelmed with regret and hopelessness two days ago that kept playing out suicide scenarios in my head. Now historically laughing at your post
Was so overwhelmed with regret and hopelessness two days ago that kept playing out suicide scenarios in my head. Now historically laughing at your post
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 8:09:08 PM No.24471664
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 3:26:11 AM No.24472618
>>24471112
That is not science fiction. The footnotes, showing the sources for his conclusions, stretch several dozen pages.
That is not science fiction. The footnotes, showing the sources for his conclusions, stretch several dozen pages.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 7:32:00 AM No.24473041
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 9:39:49 AM No.24473244
>>24468434 (OP)
Camus is for women and underdeveloped (liberal) men (borderline faggots).
Camus is for women and underdeveloped (liberal) men (borderline faggots).
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 9:49:04 AM No.24473253
>>24471038
you still have four years, but honestly if you have gone that long, you should preserve your virginity. you will regret it when you lose it
you still have four years, but honestly if you have gone that long, you should preserve your virginity. you will regret it when you lose it
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 10:41:37 AM No.24473294
>>24469426
>How much of Camus have you read Anon?
I read The Stranger and it was a piece of shit.
>I can see why you could come to that conclusion after only reading his early work.
Absurdism = Optimistic nihilism
>How much of Camus have you read Anon?
I read The Stranger and it was a piece of shit.
>I can see why you could come to that conclusion after only reading his early work.
Absurdism = Optimistic nihilism
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 10:43:24 AM No.24473299
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 11:11:31 AM No.24473316
>>24468434 (OP)
Do a flip
Do a flip
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 4:26:57 PM No.24473718
>>24468434 (OP)
I don't have a gun
I don't have a gun
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 8:00:46 PM No.24474222
>>24471013
How is it you’re conscious of nothing?
How is it you’re conscious of nothing?
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 8:38:28 PM No.24474283
>>24468434 (OP)
Because if you drink the right combination of dairy products you can fart out actual, literal, epistemic cubes of cheese
Because if you drink the right combination of dairy products you can fart out actual, literal, epistemic cubes of cheese