Thread 24470021 - /lit/ [Archived: 899 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/16/2025, 3:31:03 AM No.24470021
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>tfw you’ve been a platoist, Aristotle disciple, christian, communist, Nazi, nietzchean, Buddhist monarchist philosemite and pagan larper and still haven’t found any meaningful philosophy that sticks
books for this? I’m ready to just be an absurdist atheist now or something
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 3:36:46 AM No.24470027
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>>24470021 (OP)
Picrel and stick to it grandpa
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 3:39:35 AM No.24470033
>>24470027
What does that mean
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 3:40:51 AM No.24470037
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>>24470021 (OP)
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 3:43:18 AM No.24470045
>>24470021 (OP)
Read a second book about any of those subjects without moving on to another unrelated recommendation from 4chan you retard
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 3:44:24 AM No.24470048
>>24470045
I was each of those things from anywhere from 6-18 months and read multiple works on each subject
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 3:44:56 AM No.24470050
>>24470033
ngmi
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 3:46:56 AM No.24470052
>>24470050
Thank for your literature recommendation asshole
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 3:48:40 AM No.24470059
>>24470021 (OP)
recency bias. take a glassblowing class.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 3:49:04 AM No.24470060
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>>24470021 (OP)
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 3:53:32 AM No.24470069
>>24470021 (OP)
Any mass shooter manifesto should be right up your lane
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 3:59:45 AM No.24470080
>>24470069
I’ve already read my twisted world (kino)

I tried reading the nigcel one but it was very cringe, couldn’t get through the first 2 pages
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 4:01:12 AM No.24470083
You have skin-deep engagement with philosophy and lack the ability to formulate a coherent and cohesive worldview. It is impossible to be an "absurdist atheist" if you have ever actually set roots into Platonism, just as it is impossible to be a Platonist if in your heart you are an "absurdist atheist".
The principles in your heart and the truths in your mind will guide you where you must go. That is, if you have any of those in the first place. Many don't, and consequently become vapid, vacuous NPCs to be pushed around and intellectually manipulated by more complete, or more typically, more aggressive natures.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 4:03:21 AM No.24470086
>>24470083
This is reductive and betrays your immature philosophical posture
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 4:18:45 AM No.24470126
>>24470086
Reductive how exactly?
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:05:02 AM No.24470225
Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health (L. Ron Hubbard, 1950)
Stop toying around with the phonies, and grab lightning with your bare hands.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:07:17 AM No.24470229
>>24470021 (OP)
Ideology is psyops.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:07:20 AM No.24470231
>>24470021 (OP)
Calling yourself these things after reading a book and maybe talking to a couple of people online does not actually make you any of those things. Consider jumping off a bridge.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:18:10 AM No.24470242
>>24470231
No I actually did the work, got baptized, became the overman, joined a Therevada cult for 6 months, and made the pilgrimage to israel
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:47:08 AM No.24470290
>>24470021 (OP)
You probably are just frustrated and need to bounce on dick
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:51:58 AM No.24470297
>>24470048
You’re either deeply closeted, or worse, you haven’t realized that philosophy is made up bullshit and your own world view is supposed to come from self-analyzing and picking and choosing certain ideas that best fit your own life
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:53:37 AM No.24470301
>>24470297
Sounds like projection and isn’t that also what I’m doing though by grabbing the best ideas from all the philosophies though
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:56:13 AM No.24470304
People choosing religions/philosophies like they're shopping at a grocery store. Peak modernism. I'm in awe.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:56:48 AM No.24470306
>>24470021 (OP)
Have you tried perennialism and the good old PKD idea that everything anyone ever thought is true?
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:58:26 AM No.24470312
>>24470306
Eh well I know for sure Buddhism and Christianity are false so I don’t see how that would work
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 6:02:17 AM No.24470321
>>24470242
>joined a Therevada cult for 6 months
did you become enlightened in six months too ya fucking clown
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 6:02:42 AM No.24470324
>>24470312
It works amazingly. Or schizophrenic depending on perspective.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 6:04:01 AM No.24470327
>>24470021 (OP)
you're a Christian. Its gonna be alright.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 6:04:12 AM No.24470328
>>24470321
No it was very gay, also none of the people there were arahats which was suspicious
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 6:05:47 AM No.24470331
>>24470301
If you haven’t found anything meaningful that sticks, then no I would say that it isn’t what you are doing. It sounds as if you are blindly hopping between ideas in hopes of finding one that finally helps you figure it all out, which is not going to happen by solely reading. You need to experience life and begin a real fundamental understanding of these ideas in practice
>>24470304
This anon worded it in a better way than I
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 6:11:15 AM No.24470345
>>24470331
I do experience life see >>24470242 I did a million times more than you larpers did and I engaged critically with each and every one of the philosophies and they are ALL LACKING!

What don’t you get about that you clown? How dare you talk down to me like you have the universe figured out and everyone around you is an insect. You must be a jew no doubt, or a jew worshipper. One of the reasons I abandoned that cult was because of kikes like you. Yes, 8 months in a baptist church and then 2 months in a catholic mass after I was tired of the cat piss smell in the other church
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6/16/2025, 6:21:04 AM No.24470357
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>>24470021 (OP)
Picrel would be perfect for you. I just finished reading it today and I was pretty deeply moved (and disturbed) by how much I saw myself in the MC. You will too if you've lived a life similar to mine (which I think you have just going by the thread).
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 6:29:32 AM No.24470376
>>24470345
>Everyone who disagrees with me must be a Jew
I think I have discovered your issue, and it is a common one with all OPs. You’re a huge faggot and no amount of reading and life experience can save you from your strong desire to be Eiffel Towered by two men.
>>24470312
>Christianity is false
Common sign of a deeply closeted individual. I hope one day you find happiness and recognize that you’re deeply fraudulent behavior and lifestyle are stopping you from becoming the butterfly you wish to be
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 6:30:38 AM No.24470379
>>24470376
Your*
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 6:31:09 AM No.24470381
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>>24470376
>christjew projecting his gay fantasy onto me
No thanks bro you can keep whatever this is
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6/16/2025, 6:51:07 AM No.24470430
>>24470381
Did you ever try Traditional Catholicism? If you're looking for something more mysticist it's a great way to go.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 7:01:50 AM No.24470449
>>24470021 (OP)

You sound like one of those stupid animals in Animal Farm when they're listening to the debate between the two sides and the stupid ones find the last thing that they just listened to to be the most convincing.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 7:05:59 AM No.24470462
you have to form yourself to a set of principles, not find a principle that is "right for you". how can you grow in a system that stoops down to meet you? do you intend to change or better yourself?
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 7:07:02 AM No.24470465
>>24470462
>do you intend to change or better yourself?
If it makes philosophical sense to do so, but I’m not sure it does. Convince me from first principles
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 9:26:30 AM No.24470643
>>24470465
>Convince me from first principles
no. youre shopping for an aesthetic, not trying to change. you already know you need to, otherwise you wouldnt entertain philosophy. but the world wont stand still until you actually try. see you in your 30s
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 9:27:43 AM No.24470645
>>24470643
>the world wont stand still waiting for you to try*
poor wording
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:04:35 AM No.24470692
>>24470021 (OP)
maybe being the kind of guy to go through ideologies like tubs of ice cream you can figure out you're the problem in this equation
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:08:21 AM No.24470696
>>24470033
>he didn’t convert to SUV-ism when it was still a fresh and underground philosophy movement
Ngmi it’s over for you
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 11:19:51 AM No.24470767
>>24470021 (OP)
Stop focusing on models of the world and instead focus on the world. Read Thucydides and Machievelli (including the Discourses). Nassim Taleb is good for this too if you can stomach him.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 11:29:00 AM No.24470787
>>24470021 (OP)
Wild idea here, maybe give being yourself a try.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 12:08:26 PM No.24470822
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>>24470021 (OP)
Nihilism: The Root of the Revolution of the Modern Age and God's Revelation to the Human Heart by Fr. Seraphim Rose
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 12:15:07 PM No.24470828
>>24470021 (OP)
Start over and get it right next time.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 1:09:10 PM No.24470868
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>>24470021 (OP)
How are you living? What do you do for work?
Without actually meaningfully participating in or engaging with the world around you, all philosophy will be inherently without meaning because you can't actually apply it to anything. The fact that you are merely alive is not a virtue, bacteria is "alive". How are you living?
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 1:13:28 PM No.24470874
>>24470868
What a load of crap. One's inner life and spirit is what matters, bacteria don't have that. Living circumstances are secondary
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 2:22:02 PM No.24470982
>>24470021 (OP)
You were none of those things and you will never be anything other than a faggot who attaches labels for abstract ideas as a fashion statement.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 2:27:31 PM No.24470984
>>24470868
Not OP, but that's quite silly and philosophically naive. Personally, I'm living a life rooted in artistic and intellectual pursuits, not chained to some 9-to-5 grind just to validate my existence to strangers. I engage with the world by observing, analyzing, and reflecting; not by blindly participating in its dysfunction. The idea that philosophy is meaningless unless 'applied' is itself meaningless: what if one is a schizoid whose philosophy is precisely withdrawal, reflection, and refusal? Not everyone is desperate to prove their value through constant motion or noise. Bacteria might be 'alive', but only humans build meaning through negation.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 4:06:33 PM No.24471150
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>>24470021 (OP)
I think at some point you have to realize the issue lies with you if you keep switching between contradicting theologies
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:03:58 PM No.24471283
>>24470021 (OP)
I recommend you stop reading for a moment, shut off the internet for a few hours andbsit down with a notebook or a word processor and just think and write a bit about the different ideas you've encountered, and what you think about the questions they're trying to answer. You can take ideas from multiple sources and synthesize or repurpose them; you don't have to just agree wholeheartedly with one book or set of books as it seems you're doing now (an exception would be religious doctrines, but even they don't cover everything, and it tends to be that you discern into a religion by concluding that you agree with its core doctrines anyway).
Another recommendation is to read something fun, like an epic poem or a dense novel where you're required to think and interpret.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:10:05 PM No.24471292
>>24470345
>only spent 1/5 of his time in Christianity going to Catholic Mass
I take it you didn't read Dante or Aquinas, then? Any encyclicals? Any Lewis or Chesterton? Surely you didn't just have one lacking experience with Christianity and then abandon it, right?
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:13:45 PM No.24471296
>>24471292
Also
>i did a million times more than you
>I got baptized (none of the other Sacraments though) and went to church for 10 months and left because of people I didn't like
These cannot both be true.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 7:24:12 PM No.24471543
>>24470822
What is this from?
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 8:29:36 PM No.24471709
>>24470021 (OP)
I understand how you feel. Maybe you need more life experience, or a different kind of life experience, to resolve your nature in your own eyes.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 8:41:20 PM No.24471726
>>24470021 (OP)
let me clue you in, anon.
you need to be destroyed before being rebuilt. like the other anons said, you need to live life as life is lived (not searching for answers, but simply living as you are, naturally), and in the course of that, you will be destroyed, you will at some point fall to the lowest place you can find yourself, you must come face to face with the thing you hate the most about yourself, what kills you slowly inside. you must conquer that, and in this process you will find the philosophy that will save you. there's no other way besides this.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 8:58:46 PM No.24471753
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>>24470033
Anon.. the pic rel
>>24470027
means that whatever you choose, you're not going 'to change'
And the text rather kindly suggests that if you've really been all that you say, then you're at least an 86 yo right now, not a twink
Oh, and if you're larping, then you're essentially larping about larping
No one's out to get you
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 6:09:49 AM No.24472885
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>>24470874
>>24470984
We human beings are communal creatures. You cannot exempt yourself from the tribe and expect to be able to be allowed to also "get it". You have nothing to "get", you do not participate in our society. In the lake of life you're attempting to leave no ripples, why on Earth do you believe you have a grounded, sane, rational, or even any kind of view that's rooted in reality?
The real world is through your engagement with society, your work. Like it or not you exist within a community, and if you are not meaningfully participating then you cannot claim to know what is best. You don't know anything, you've never been beholden to labor.
Nothing you say is grounded in anyone's world because you left it behind. Your "philosophy" is pseudointellectual masturbation exercises on 4chan.
My contempt for NEETs is un-fucking-real.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 7:37:04 AM No.24473057
>>24470021 (OP)
I feel you OP.
Have you seen Waiting for Godot?
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 8:02:22 AM No.24473128
>>24470021 (OP)
Try bottoming, anon

>>24470290
this.
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Anonymous
6/17/2025, 8:10:16 AM No.24473139
>>24470033
>anon too busy with self-identity has never experienced human things
just go full bimbo mode and stop thinking, you obviously weren't made for it
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6/17/2025, 9:19:42 AM No.24473228
>>24473128
I do get some shockingly homo vibes from this guy.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 9:48:45 AM No.24473251
>>24471543
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_to_the_World
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6/17/2025, 9:50:02 AM No.24473255
>>24470290
He needs a good, rough pegging from a somewhat disinterested goth chick, preferably a Latina
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 10:38:23 AM No.24473291
>>24470021 (OP)
You don't find the answer from a book
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 10:42:13 AM No.24473296
>>24470021 (OP)
Kill yourself.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 2:26:50 PM No.24473513
>>24470021 (OP)
Guys.. I dont actually care about philosophy, I just want to attach a cool label to myself so that I can formulate an identity.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 11:48:10 PM No.24474710
>>24470021 (OP)
The Bible
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 11:55:53 PM No.24474731
>>24470021 (OP)
sounds like you're a guy with no actual conviction, no interior life and you're looking for a thought daddy to give you your worldview
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 2:54:39 AM No.24475178
no one is booking for this
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 8:18:39 AM No.24475595
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>>24470021 (OP)
I'm in the exact same position as you, having tried to explore religions and various meme philosophies but never truly found a home to rest. I am now basically giving up finding an absolute fit-all solution on my own.

My next step is to fixate on interests that aren't philosophy, like linguistics and linux, and when trying to think deeply about stuff I will do it in an exploratory and non-systematic way.

Perhaps for us autists ideologies and thought-systems don't have much effects. Our brains are wired to function in a specific way that no philosophy can substantially modify it, nor is there a need to modify it at the first place. The world is a shit place so I guess just try to preserve yourself, staying around and live well.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 9:39:00 AM No.24475657
>>24470033
Filenaname my low IQ failure of a human soul fellow /lit/ poster
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 9:47:59 AM No.24475668
I am an Orthodox Christian, not a catholic or a protestant, not a satanist(jew) or muslim. God made a church on earth and the chaff will be burnt and the wheat are his saints.
TLDR: false dilema distracts from god
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 11:12:13 AM No.24475762
>>24475595
>like linguistics and linux
Luke Smith?
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 11:19:40 AM No.24475771
I'm surprised at level of hate OP is getting. Especially since all of these schools of thought are regularly discussed here.
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6/18/2025, 11:51:16 AM No.24475803
>>24475771
>I'm surprised at level of hate OP is getting.
Because
1. He avatarfagged as twinkjak and
2. Doesn't actually take any of these schools of thought seriously and instead sees them as something to virtue signal with for status like a woman
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 12:57:12 PM No.24475899
>>24470984
>Personally, I'm living a life rooted in artistic and intellectual pursuits
So you're living on welfare?
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 12:58:34 PM No.24475903
>>24475771
Why would anyone take him seriously? He's not looking for purpose, he's looking for a skin to brag about wearing.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 1:01:35 PM No.24475911
>>24470021 (OP)
Look up
>unstable identity
In the DSM
>>24475771
Why? That's what the site is for
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 2:09:25 PM No.24476026
Genuinely hope op gets sick for a week
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 2:27:12 PM No.24476056
>>24470021 (OP)
>philosophy that sticks
Meaning you want to be a follower/disciple? You misunderstand what philosophy is, it isn't a religion where you follow some dogmas and "own" others. The world is Nietzschean no matter what anyone says.
>You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.
There are no two people, so don't expect a philosophy that will click with you made by a guy from 2000 years ago.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 2:43:32 PM No.24476096
>>24470021 (OP)
>he hasn’t realized you need to synthesize principles and ideas from different fields of life and determine which are most accurate in different contexts via observing them compete and fight for survival Darwinistic ally.
>he doesn’t realize you can just synthesize all of the ideas from every major religion, all of philosophy, paganism, animism, mysticism and esotericism, and all of science, the lessons of history, Darwinism, modernity, ideology, natural law, psychedelics, any other schizo shit, ideas about how man should relate to technology and industrial systems, and everything else like that into a coherent worldview that will propel future civilizations for thousands of years.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 3:05:33 PM No.24476119
>>24475178
Love takes time, anon