What does "one must imagine Sisyphus happy" mean?

it doesn't mean anything, much like other things this person has written.

end stage cope
>AHA IF I SIMPLY - YOU KNOW - R E F R A M E POINTLESS SUFFERING I CAN PRETEND IT ACTUALLY SERVES A NOBLE PURPOSE SO I CAN DERIVE A SENSE OF SUPERIORITY FROM IT AND THUS TURN PAIN INTO PLEASURE IT IS LIKE ALCHEMY AND BASICALLY YOU ARE FUCKING DUMB AND KNOW NOTHING

>>24470587 (OP)
It is, how you say, le cope

>>24470587 (OP)
People are like sisyphus with all their suffering that repeats all the time and bla bla shit. wannabe philosopher camus crap.

The important part is that one must imagine him happy because he isn't and won't be in any future. He wants you to think how beautiful life would be if it wasn't so shit. "Your life is shit? Ma nigga just imagine it happy". This guy just wants that everybody gets cognitive dissonance and gets mentally ill and only then one is happy. Now that I think about it that would actually make his philosophy better if the thought like that.
Put that fag back on the shelf or delete that shit. There are better philosophies, if you can even call it that from camus, that are worth your time

>>24470587 (OP)
Has there ever been a more blatant hack than Camus? His work is on-par with something an edgy teenager would write after a shitty day at high school. Absurdism is a half-assed cope and fails to offer a convincing alternative to the dichotomy that Camus constructs (ie pessimism vs faith). Furthermore, his readings of various philosophers in the Rebel were sophomoric half-readings that completely missed the point of what each one was actually trying to get at. I don't get why post-war France decided either Sartre or Camus were worth listening to, both were embarrassingly wrong and only hold relevance now through the angsty teenagers that discover them at Barnes and Noble.

>>24470589
fpbp

Coming to terms with a meaningless, undirectable existence is where peace lies. “Happy” is a bit of a misnomer.

>>24470587 (OP)
the sentence isn't obscure
image Sisyphus happy
that guy LOVES pushing that rock
he loves pushing it UP
he loves watching it roll DOWN
he's saying without saying Sisyphus is autistic, which, thinking about it is totally obvious
>>24470597
this guy doesn't get it, never played with trains or did anything for the sake of it
>WAH WALKING ISN'T AS COMFORTABLE AS SLEEPING IT SUCKS
pedigree midwit
>>24471264
true tho Camus does suck, I enjoyed the Plague but I couldn't tell if it's supposed to be funny like a comedy or he's taking what he's saying seriously

>>24470587 (OP)
>What does "one must imagine Sisyphus happy" mean?
He ain't happy. But if we don't imagine him happy, then, the sublime object of ideology will fail as a recooperation of capitalism.

2 into 4
4 into 6
Shoot the rich
Shoot the rich.

>>24473192
>>24473194
Sisyphus is being punished for his hubris against the gods, multiple times
He's not just some random guy pushing a boulder

>>24473214
he likes the punishment, he's a sub, AND he's just a guy pushing a boulder, or rather, he's larping as a guy just pushing a boulder, and has gone native, he's ascended his punishment, he really likes pushing rocks

To imagine sisyphus content with his lot is to imagine ourselves, all subjects to the human condition, content with ours. Camus believes that every person has an inherent capacity to do so and that the ultimate frivolity of our actions does not diminish them in the least. In fact, it defines them.
The act itself is enough to fill one's life.

>>24470587 (OP)
>just be happy mayne

>>24473229
First response ITT that makes sense.

I always read it as a reference to radical solipsism capable of overcoming even biological responses. For instance, deciding - using willpower - to find joy in having your testicles slowly crushed and your teeth drilled out with no pain relief.

While difficult, it's not impossible given the structure of the brain. You actually can derange yourself from your innate responses to stimulus to the extent that you find joy in torment. Not just endurance, but actual pleasure. A joyful Sisyphus is a creature who has solipsised reality so thoroughly that control can be exerted over one's emotional responses to entire categories of nerve inputs.

>>24473192
>this guy doesn't get it, never played with trains or did anything for the sake of it
yeah, pleasant things are done for the sake of it, unpleasant things are only done to achieve something that is eventually pleasurable
nobody does uncomfortable things for the sake of discomfort

>>24473439
>nobody does uncomfortable things for the sake of discomfort

>>24471264
>People are like sisyphus with all their suffering that repeats all the time and bla bla shit.
What's your 140IQ counter to this?

>>24473439
tasked to sit and do nothing for 15 minutes, 67% of men chose to press a button that they knew would shock them instead

>>24473506
I don't have an IQ of 140 you can't hear my 140IQ counter. But I can tell you my maybe 60IQ counter.

Its been kinda a long time since I have read Camus so I might have forgotten some shit he told.
But Yeah Sisyphussy suffers in a repeated notion, as do we. I don't like going to work all day and Sisyphus won't like rolling his stone uphill. But thats about the only overlap. Sisyphus gotta do that stuff for a long time. How the fuck should he think "Hell yeah now I like rolling my ball up this hill". I just can't see it. We humans won't live forever, so we have something we more or less look forward to. And we can end our life everyday. We can just think like yeah I don't want to roll my stone now I take drugs everyday and when I postponed my suffering enough and now it is inevitable, I just kill myself.
Camus for me just told everybody that life is meaningless and there won't be any and whatnot. But he somehow wants to be that tragic hero that sees truths and meaning where there is non. So how does true consciousness of the absurd don't destroy every imagination of happiness?
The moment where I knew that I am going to start hating him was, when I read his Speeches and shit. Where he somehow tells people to have hope and gets all politcal and shit. He wasn't even antinatalist.

>>24470589
>>24472399
>t. filtered pseuds

"I leave Sisyphus at the foot of the mountain! One always finds one's burden again. But Sisyphus teaches the higher fidelity that negates the gods and raises rocks. He too concludes that all is well. This universe henceforth without a master seems to him neither sterile nor futile. Each atom of that stone, each mineral flake of that night-filled mountain, in itself forms a world. The struggle itself toward the heights is enough to fill a man's heart. One must imagine Sisyphus happy."

>>24470587 (OP)
Have you talked to old people? They have nothing going on in their lives, all their friends are dead, spouse dying or dead, family don't visit. At a certain point they want to be bother, they want to be annoyed because FUCK anything is better than doing nothing. Granted, that's not all old people but it is pretty common.
>What does "one must imagine Sisyphus happy" mean?
We should be grateful to have some task to do ceaselessly. To be busy is to have purpose. Once you lose purpose you rot away. My great grandfather told my father he would never retire, he would never slow down because it leads to inevitable decay. And bro was right, he had a wife 40 years younger than him, smoke, drank, still went to parties, had nice cars, dressed well.
TLDR purpose good, might be annoying, but better than purposelessness.

>>24474126
But how to achieve purpose? Is your definitions of a purpose really just to be busy? How does one not feel meaningless after that? After I put in effort at work I always feel empty and directionless afterwards.

>>24474141
nta but yeah, just do it, the rest will follow
when youre tired from working you dont care about purpose, you go to bed, you wake up with purpose, to go to work
being like
what is my purpose?
is exactly how you neuter your purpose
just do
zen init

>>24470587 (OP)
Bassically Camus is postulating that life has no inherent meaning and that the mythological sysiphus found his own meaning in life in the fact he pushes boulders up a hill endlessly

>>24473214
>Sisyphus is being punished for his hubris against the gods, multiple times
FACE DOWN
ASS UP
THAT'S THE WAY I LIKE TO FUCK
FACE DOWN
ASS UP
LET ME LET ME HEAR YOU SAY
YOU AIN'T NOTHING BUT MEAT ON THE BONE
FUCK YOU AND SUCK YOU AND LEAVE YOU ALONE

>>24470587 (OP)
you must not kys

>>24470587 (OP)
We can adapt to the most terrible conditions given time and the right mindset.

Sisyphus is doomed to his fate. He can do nothing to change it. There is no hope for him, no possibility of escape.

There is no hope for you either. The tasks you do daily are just as meaningless as pushing a rock up a hill. Once you realize this, you are free from the rules you make for yourself, and the hope of a better tomorrow.

You must find enjoyment in the act of living, of doing pointless things.

>>24473430

Holy shit ne**o, that's all you had to say!
By connecting reason to emotion one is able to opt out of the input output that codes our brains to respond the way it normally does. Our perception of reality is not reality, only through maximizing agency towards reality - one engages with what's actually real and is capable of extracting the most out of it. Thus perception isn't a tool to understand reality, but merely a half-baked tool that somewhat helps navigating it. Transcending perception must be attained through going beyond dichotomy, joy / torment, light / obscure, reason / emotion, time / space, life / death.

>>24474141
Those purposeful endeavors of your sound more like dizzy actions with the objective of numbing unnecessary suffering / useless boredom, than oriented expressions of oneself towards what you actually care about and would make your life better. There must be synergy between being, doing and becoming when giving a shot at understanding true purpose.

Just as “nothing can’t come out of something” Effort and energy always lead to a result of proportional impact even if our senses can’t yet fully grasp it. Who knows, maybe they haven’t compounded yet, time is tricky when energy investment/dissipation is in play.

Anxiety as the dizziness of freedom may be functioning as a paralyzing mechanism when you feel directionless. My guess is that you have your Fears in front instead of behind you, pushing you away from an even greater catastrophe beyond disheartened, hopeless emptiness. Emptiness at least is a known friend, comfortable and sometimes predictable. Feeling it has a gain of some sort. Don’t run from it though, negating it also neglects a core aspect of your existence. We can never get anywhere desirable by running from ourselves. Stay with it for a while, let the Greyness settle in and be still, or rather, flow with it. Not long after an all-encompassing boredom arises you’ll know what you care about enough to pursue despite societal pressures. Then you start dancing with the Chaos that will emerge of such joyous enterprise.

>>24473144
Where is the evidence that Sisyphus ever accepted his fate

one must imagine sisyphus cope.

because he has something to do
his fate isn't to just sit and wait for something or be continuously eaten by things or to be left on the ground like dog shit

>>24470587 (OP)
I'm a retard and have a brainlet question: Is "one must imagine Sisyphus happy" meant to be a command or just a general musing (or possibly both)?

>One MUST imagine Sisyphus happy.
One who acknowledges the absurdity of the world has no other choice.

>>24474141
>But how to achieve purpose?
Have something worth losing.
>Is your definitions of a purpose really just to be busy?
Yes. To be needed, more specifically. If you are entirely replaceable you are purposeless though you might be busy.
>How does one not feel meaningless after that?
If your job lacks purpose then it should be a means of acquiring purpose, usually relationships with friends and family. Just something you have to tank or find a different job.
>After I put in effort at work I always feel empty and directionless afterwards.
It do be like that sometimes. What is your job?

>>24478070
musing

>>24470600
TPBP