Any good unorthodox books on music theory ?

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>>24474850 (OP)
yes...

>>24475835
Anything you could recommend?

>>24475841
which aspect of music are you interested in?

>>24475843
since you haven't replied I've made a short list that you might find helpful:

Implied Harmony:
The Science of Music - Logier

Chords, Roots, Inversions:
Essay on Playing Keyboard Instruments - CPE Bach

4-Part Writing:
Theory of Harmony - Schoenberg

Strict Counterpoint:
16th Century Polyphony - Knud Jeppesen

>>24475876
meant for >>24475841

>>24474850 (OP)
Music its secret influence throughout the ages by Cyril Scott

>>24475910
Anglo garbage.

>>24475843
>>24475876
Thank you for the recommendations. I've read Schönberg's book I'll look into the other three too. I'm not actually quite sure what I'm looking for, that's why I just asked for something ''unorthodox'' I'm just at an impasse when it comes to art in general but especially music. I've been at it my whole life but for the first time I feel completely lost. I had a similar situation with philosophy until I seriously got into Hegel so I'm looking for a similar experience with music.

>>24475949
I think Schopenhauer had a much better understanding of music than Hegel. I'm currently writing an essay on thoroughbass (or net total bass) a.) because it explains the physics behind harmony better than harmonics and b.) it is a concept that has not been adequately conveyed to people outside of the German speaking world.

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>>24475949
The book is rather unorthodox but presents ideas which the open-minded reader should find interesting, though not strictly within the subject of "music theory" as it is known to us today. Cyril Scott did the work as a composer and deserves a fair hearing on his ideas of art history.

>>24475965
>I think Schopenhauer had a much better understanding of music than Hegel
I meant philosophy in general, rather than music. Reading Hegel changed everything for me, so I was maybe hoping to find a similar experience in regards to music theory.

>I'm currently writing an essay on thoroughbass (or net total bass) a.) because it explains the physics behind harmony better than harmonics and b.) it is a concept that has not been adequately conveyed to people outside of the German speaking world.
I'd love to read it, I do speak German (if any recommendations are in German)

>>24474850 (OP)
Music: a Mathematical Offering
https://homepages.abdn.ac.uk/d.j.benson/pages/html/maths-music.html
Arguably the best.

>>24474850 (OP)
20th century harmony by persichetti

>>24474850 (OP)
why unorthodox? orthodox works just fine

>>24476118
>I'd love to read it, I do speak German (if any recommendations are in German)

it will be published in English. Basically, the main idea says triads in the 12-tone equally tempered scale are vectors and a root is the direction of a vector. (chords with four to six tones are the product of extended harmony.)

>>24476143
>why unorthodox?
He hates slavs

So Hegel + music theory ? Not directly music theory but closest thing is just his stuff on aesthetics

>>24476910
>Hegel
>music theory
Literally Adorno

>>24474850 (OP)
a generative theory of tonal music

>>24477543
Adorno was a pseud and I'm not saying that because he was Jewish. Schoenberg is an infinitely superior writer on music.

>>24477553
Amerimutt slop.

>>24477572
it's been like 20 years since i read it, so you may be right. it was exciting at the time.

>>24477576
to be fair I hate any publication about music that isn't a practical textbook.

>>24477582
well the op specified unorthodox. i wasn't sure how far to go with that.

>>24477629
OP is just too retarded to understand classical music theory (4-part chorales, counterpoint, implied harmony, etc.).

>>24475949
why would the solution be in a book lol, you know you can just listen to or make music yourself

>>24477642
Thanks

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i don't necessarily agree with everything cage says or even enjoy most of his music, but he's an engaging writer and thinks about it in a way that's interesting and gets the old noggin joggin even if you end up going a different direction

>>24474850 (OP)
You need to specify what you're actually looking for if you want recs

>>24474850 (OP)
Check out math books about music

>>24477556
>Adorno was a pseud
Filtered by doxa

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjQtVdDzglc
what was adorno's take on italo disco tho was he mad about it or was he into it cuz it's kinda gay

>>24480280
He's right about Jazz and wrong about anything else