Thread 24476005 - /lit/ [Archived: 1018 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/18/2025, 1:53:45 PM No.24476005
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What if the world you see isn't the real world?
Plato, the OG philosopher, dared us to consider this mind-bending possibility with his Theory of Forms.

He proposed a hidden realm, a "perfect blueprint" dimension, where the true essence of everything exists:
The ideal "chair" (the Form of Chairness)
The absolute "good" (the Form of the Good)
Pure, unadulterated "beauty" (the Form of Beauty)
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 1:58:03 PM No.24476008
like a symbolic reference of shared consciousness?
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 1:59:13 PM No.24476009
>>24476008
Yes
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 2:00:46 PM No.24476010
>>24476009
sure but it would not change anything really, so why even think about it?
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 2:02:05 PM No.24476013
>>24476010
It will change everything, look deeper inside yourself
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 2:03:51 PM No.24476016
>>24476005 (OP)
It's up to you to call it a world at all. Universe is the more accurate term.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 2:04:34 PM No.24476019
>>24476013
I have looked as deep as I could, nothing changed
what changed for you?
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 2:06:16 PM No.24476024
>>24476005 (OP)
the sun is shining as if it were; and yet, by technicality, it is not yet summer, except in the perennial sense.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 2:16:58 PM No.24476033
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>>24476005 (OP)
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 2:42:40 PM No.24476095
>>24476005 (OP)
Ok, prove this
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 8:03:55 PM No.24476824
>>24476005 (OP)
The Forms are hypotheses, and Socrates says to Glaucon outright in the Republic that he only has an opinion about the Good, implying he has no knowledge of it, and won't share that opinion, only an image instead.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 8:29:44 PM No.24476879
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>>24476005 (OP)
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 8:47:14 PM No.24476917
>the ideal "chair"
do you realize what you've done?
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 8:48:57 PM No.24476919
>>24476005 (OP)
i think the most hilarious thing abiut ancient philosphers is tbat someone would have come up with it eventually
they just had the balls to say it first
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 8:49:58 PM No.24476923
>>24476824
this guy gets it
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 8:59:16 PM No.24476942
>>24476824
sounds like the average contrarian 4chan user
>i know what good is
>ok tell me
>well i dont want to tell you
>ok then do you not know if you did you'd be able to tell me
>how about i describe it to you instead
>how about you judt tell me your opinion on what you think it is
>ignores and describes it
no wonder they killed him
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 9:00:49 PM No.24476947
>>24476919
they might not come ever
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 9:25:14 PM No.24477008
>>24476942
In context, it's probably done because Glaucon's getting excited and wants the city in speech to be actualized, and Socrates, with the Republic's account of philosophy and the Good, places the standards of rule so high as to be outside of Glaucon's grasp in order to curb political aspirations. For us as readers, that probably translates to both high esteem of philosophy (hence OP just glorifying it) while rejecting the value of worldly political rule (these people don't need to be in charge of shit, so all the better), and, for the few capable of it (those not using cgpt to spam terrible Plato threads without reading him), it propels them to work at the education outlined in the Republic.