Is he a pseud?

>>24477383 (OP)
What is a pseud?

>>24477383 (OP)
No, not really. Studied under him. If anything, he's a bit pretentious. He is, however, repetitive. Reading two books or all of them makes no difference, essentially the same. His lectures were awesome. He despised journalists and in one series of lecturers he talked the whole semester about porn and ejaculate. We called it the money shot lecture.

>>24477436
>studied under him
Really? That's very cool
I'm interested in the agony of eros, palliative society (I'm in med) and the gardening one seems nice. Should I bother reading burnout society?

>>24477436
what uni is this?

>>24477383 (OP)
I find him disingenuous at best. The insular world of academics never bothers to listen to the laymen, because they think the "man on the street" is a dangerous reactionary.

he's pretty laid back but all academics are pseuds

>>24477465
>burnout society?
By far his best book. I studied in the lecture that became expulsion of the other. He turns his lecturers into books. He quit academia as its becoming "impossible to teach". Truth is, he didn't accept companies asking for goodies. He expects them to pay but get nothing in return. From an academic standpoint he's right, you can't "buy" science, but there are also traditions of the trade. Can't expect anyone to gift you substantial sums.
He said that all his philosophy is just applied philosophy based on heidegger and the five Chinese books of wisdom (dropped the name). You should read palliative society.
>>24477408
>he's a bit pretentious
Hence me stating the above.
>>24477483
Was a German University for art, the one in the capital, obviously.
>>24477498
Truth told.
>>24477515
Do you think this was always the case?

>>24477530
Does he speak german fluently without an accent?

Yeah
He's Korean and yet larps as a German
It's embarrassing
He should stick to Korean only

>dude neoliberalism and uhh cellphones
SO DEEP!

>>24477530
>He said that all his philosophy is just applied philosophy based on heidegger
Neat. Heidegger's writing on his own thought isn't that interesting to me (I don't care about ontology and metaphysics and being), but all that shit applied to ethics, critical theory, politics, art, etc., now that's what I've been looking for.

>>24477436
>he talked the whole semester about porn and ejaculate. We called it the money shot lecture
>>24477383 (OP)
>Is he a pseud?
Yes.

>>24477710
He writes very good (my opinion), but he speaks really bad German (and English) - hilarious. If, however, he says that he will now read from his notes, as the following is important, he turns from near illiterate to master philosopher in a heartbeat - quite the spectacle, as his accent seems gone, while reading his notes.

Why do we need a second thread about him? And no, he’s not a pseud, he has profound insights about our society.

>>24477727
This but unironically because it is deep, actually.

>>24477713
>He's Korean and yet larps as a German
That's not true. He knows where he comes from and doesn't deny this heritage. He says that only people in love with a language can truly speak it. He might be in love, but he certainly can't speak the language. He can write alright, but certainly not speak freely.
>>24477727
Deeper than most contemporary philosophy you'll find around.

>>24477860
>Fails to grasp the philosophical implications of the porn industry
Many such cases. Han foresaw the whore epidemic of only fans and told us that smartphone prostitution will be a thing among money or porn hungry teens. Obviously money=porn, hence the name money shot in the porn industry.

>>24478569
So he can read, write and listen to German well but can't speak it, just recite?
I'm surprised he's able to work in Germany in that case

>>24478778
He can speak it, that other anon is exaggerating. He just has some trouble with pronunciation. There are recordings of him and interviews that prove he can speak German well enough.

I doubt Germans know what "money shot" means

>>24478778
I've listened to him speak in interviews and he's perfectly understandable. His pronunciation isn't perfect and he does speaks slowly, sort of stringing words together, but it seems to me this might just be the way he naturally speaks coupled with German being his second language. It would be interesting if some Korean-speaking anon could listen to him speaking Korean and report on the mannerisms of his speech in his native language.

>>24478849
Seconding this. Here's him speaking Korean: https://youtu.be/bNkDeUApreo?si=A1QwtShhKOrE1x2s&t=1408

>>24478778
>So he can read, write and listen to German well but can't speak it
He's Asian, anon.
>>24478778
>I'm surprised he's able to work in Germany in that case
Now you are just trolling. MDs in Europe can't even say penis. Likely 20% in Europe can't even speak few words, immigration is direly needed to pump investments and profit.

>>24478854
Holy shit, he wasn't exaggerating when he said he can't find clothes to buy that match his ethical standards. Exactly what he wore 75% of the time during that year I studied under him. He does own a darker scarf (rather rag), too.

>>24478906
>he can't find clothes to buy that match his ethical standards.
Could you elaborate on what his ethical standards are regarding clothes?

>>24478910
One day he came to late simping for his crush in front of the lecture, like 250 people or so, and he was complaining that he can't find any clothes to buy. He lamented how it was a huge rip off for the people producing the raw materials. His critics said that he has a very naive idea of economics.

>>24478645
>the philosophical implications of the porn industry
Pseud.

>>24479373
>porn *exists*
Whoa, imma creampie that ass! Yeah, uah!
>That's a boy, anon...
Fuckin' boy pussy and boy feet in muh face doesn't make me gay, imma creampie...
>The drastically increasing porn consumption has severe psychosocial and behavioural implications...
Nono porn talking, dassa pseud, imma getting creampied for muh princess so she can grab some cash, and boy pussy ain't gay, so I'm cummin' good, muargh!

>>24479098
>simping for his crush
What?

>>24479434
Pseud.

>>24479434
Poetry.

>>24479462
He was obviously simping for a women, not saying more about it (out of respect). I'm merely mentioning this as he was constantly talking ablut love as philosophical concept and connection in that seminary.
I'm not hating at all, he was the #1 educator i had. Learned a lot of him and about him. Like I said before, he's so called secret is, that he was reading the 5 ancient Chinese books and translating them, often from heideggera perspective. He always said that he does nothing special, he sees himself basic af.
His works are awesome, albeit repetitive. It's pointless to read his books, without reading or understanding heideggera and the Chinese books I just mentioned.

>>24479768
heideggera

>>24479776
Proud phone posting

>>24479782
I like it

Sounds like a Final Fantasy spell

>>24479784
Heidegger is even a character in ff7. Unsure why they choose his name, but OK.

>>24479768
Did he mention whether he is Catholic or did he speak about religion at all?

>>24479910
>Heiddegger casts Sein und Zeit!
>It is effective! The entire party has been put to sleep.
>Game Over

Ah, I just saw he confirmed he’s a Catholic openly: https://www.thenation.com/article/society/pandemic-burnout-society/

>>24479918
He spoke a lot about religion and spirituality and constantly nagged how we are not allowed to spiritual.
>Catholic
Makes sense, he came after the division to Germany. Not that I remember, no.
>>24479923
Good night
>heidegger
He did read a lot from heidegger and some poems of early goethe.

>>24479955
>>24479918

How can you take a modern philosopher seriously if he's a (non-cultural, secular) Catholic? I can understand being "Catholic" jsut for cultural and sentimental reasons if you're born into it. But a thinker in this day and age? A Catholic? It makes no sense at all.

>>24480082
Like Alasdair MacIntyre wrote, the choice for us today is between Nietzsche or Aristotle. Choosing the latter naturally aligns one with Catholicism.

>>24480082
I don't understand your post. Why wouldn't it make sense? He puts it quite nicely in this German interview:

>Soziale Praktiken wie Rituale oder Erzählungen machen eine Einhausung möglich. Sie errichten ein Haus, wo ein Wohnen möglich ist. Sie verschwinden heute. Erzählungen – Mythos oder Religion sind Erzählungen – geben uns Sinn und Orientierung. Sie bringen eine stabile Erzählgemeinschaft hervor. Wenn wir uns Geschichten erzählen, entstehen Bindungen. Ohne Sinn und Orientierung haben wir weder Dach noch Boden.
https://kreuzer-leipzig.de/2023/04/20/wir-werden-zum-daten-und-konsumvieh

>>24477530
We are now one step closer to figuring out what a pseud is.

>>24478645
>foresaw the whore epidemic of only fans
Is that really an achievement?

>>24477383 (OP)
bump for based-chul han

>>24480111
I haven't seen anything that says he believes in God. It sounds more like he's attracted to Catholic ritual. Also not clear if he was born into it or not.

>>24480230
A thinker and porn addict (only for science!) maybe?
>>24480236
If you put it onto a philosophical or rather scientific framework, sure. Not the biggest achievement, mind you, but it's something that not everyone could do. You don't need to be a scientist to foresee this, not at all. I bet most people, educated or not, didn't expect or predict women to go full e-whore in less than a decade.

I don't know about his lectures, but I saw Byung-Chul Han at a Späti in Berlin yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything.

He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”

I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milka bars in his hands without paying.

The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.

When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.

>>24480272
In his newest book "Sprechen über Gott" he writes:

>Sie trat in mein Leben in einer Zeit, in der ich selbst jene Kraft spürte, die von oben kam, die stärker war als ich selbst, die 1937 Simone Weil in der kleinen romanischen Kapelle in Assisi Santa Maria degli Angeli, wo der heilige Franziskus oft betete, auf die Knie zwang.

The rest of the book is also a pretty clear indicator that he believes in God.

>>24481152
Then he is not a real philosopher, but a clown.

>>24477530
>he's a pseud
>he's pretentious
You are a pseudo intellectual, I can tell because you are pretentious.

>>24481160
Every respectable philosopher believed in God.

>>24481175
Everyone using the word pretentious is pretentious.
>heh

>>24480296
>not something everyone could do
>no education needed to do this
>most people didnt expect it

Go full pretentious or return to your pseudlosophist state.

>>24481250
All three are valid statements

>>24481250
>Go full pretentious or return to your pseudlosophist state.
We are the sexual organs of capital - han

>>24481701
He's not wrong

>>24481695
>>24481701
This seems to be more jealousy on your parts rather than pretense on his.

>>24480111
I know it's pretty off topic. However I may not get an opportunity to bring it up ever again. I found this article on McIntyre not too long ago. What do you think of it. It's a but long. If you drop it, please tell me when and why.

https://archive.is/20250528071135/https://www.jaccusepaper.co.uk/p/was-right-wing-progressivism-a-mistake

>>24481756
wait, A. MacIntyre died last month? RIP :(

>>24480461
grok is this true?

>>24481695
>>24481701
Valid statements.
>>24481704
Indeed.
>>24481710
It's according to your logic pretentious. You seem like a brainlet that 'talks' zoomie 'language'. You are a repeat current catchphrase automaton or rather a (see) >>24481701.
Iirc he said he practices philosophy as art and an artist is always a scammer, at least a little bit and this translates to
>>24477436
>he's a bit pretentious

>>24481800
He doesn't like sweets, but he does make fun of baizuo all of the time.

>>24481827
>Iirc he said he practices philosophy as art
the man gets it. That, and the Deleuzean "production of concepts"

>>24481756
Buy an ad for your shitty article you miserable faggot

>>24481827
You didn't refute him. I have no interest in refuting him since I agree. I suppose if this is your standard for pretentious you are left with an art yourself.

>>24481846
rude

>>24481756
I'll read it intermittently throughout the day and get back with you

>>24481875
>art yourself
Somehow an artist, hence, by definition, pretentious.

>>24481900
>rituals stabilize life
>pressure to be in constant social contact and in a state of self-promotion leads to burnout
>ideas that awaken

Very well anon. I suppose I re-acquired my pretentious zoomie youth. Should I thank you or Han? It would really humor me if you said I could thank myself but let's not make this too pretentious.

>>24477436
You mean his stint at the Frei Universität in Berlin? It seems so long ago now; I used to attend too. If anything he cast a strange, rather self-conscious atmosphere around the classroom. Still I appreciated what he was trying to do, unorthodox as it may have been; and coincidentally it was (or so he told a few of us before disbandment) the "limitations and inherent corruption of academia" that made him fall out with that posting. Which increased my respect for him, never too great since I don't like any of his books —these pamphlets of "pop-philosophy", sincere but tepid enough to be reframed by capital— nor hardly ever found him insightful or profound.
His Deutsch was hilarious at the time, but you had to respect his passion.

So no, not a pseud but a failure sin some regards.

>>24482056
I learned it from han, so thank him and me while you enjoy a tea ceremony.
>>24482101
The very same. It was always dark outside by the time he started and he always let people read hundreds of pages for like 3 credits per semester.
>pop philosophy
Perfect description, we used it, too. In a world where pop politics rides us into ww3 eventually, what's more fitting?
>tepid enough to be reframed by capital
Worthy of a screen cap
>he isn't profound
How could he be? He said himself, he's applying heidegger and five classics (han dynasty, lol) on modern day problems and impressions.
>His Deutsch was hilarious at the time, but you had to respect his passion.
Couldn't believe what I'm hearing during my first lecture with him. Is that him? An assistant? He's old for an assistant...
>failure sin
Why's that?

>>24482284
>the new man will finger instead of handle
>one hunts down negative thoughts in search of a gospel of unlimited achievement and optimization
>reality is information

Thanks to the both of you. I suppose this form of awakening is more recognizable.
Maybe the right word is an event?

>>24482392
»Ehemals war alle Welt irre« – sagen die Feinsten und blinzeln. - Nietzsche
You might want to check out what han thinks of "blinzeln".

>>24477383 (OP)
He's not a pseud, however he's basically a glorified reference sheet. It would be better to just read the og works he mentions constantly.

>>24482688
That's almost always the case, especially nowadays.

>>24482669
>Nietzsche's philosophy can never be experienced as charming.
>neither the will nor the power can be charming.
>[Nietzsche's] I has a multiplicity of sounds.
>Nietzsche is home to a hundred souls.
>Heidegger tried to protect 'the thing' from Nietzsche
>to Nietzsche causes and metaphors are just things to blow up
>it is difficult for Nietzsche to grasp 'meaning-making'
>Nietzsche wouldn't have been interested in vermin since the word can be traced back to a word which meant animals unsuitable for sacrifice.

That is what I recall other than some jokes and his idea that anyone who thinks themselves an ubermensch can't say no to anything. If you take his burnout society idea to the end then everyone is the last man. Did we just make that one worthless?