Thread 24481216 - /lit/ [Archived: 837 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/20/2025, 9:44:01 AM No.24481216
The Lime Twig by John Hawkes
The Lime Twig by John Hawkes
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Which authors do you wish more people read? I think John Hawkes is criminally under read. I've read two of his books so far and they've both been incredible.
Pic related was the first I picked up on a whim and I bought The Beetle Leg not long after.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 1:49:43 PM No.24481540
>>24481216 (OP)
Nothing? Was it a formatting thing? Should I have included more detail, or just tried rage bait?
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 1:56:29 PM No.24481553
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>>24481216 (OP)
Well anon, I don't have much to add to the thread at the moment, but I'll use the opportunity to bring up an author who seems like he might be a buried treasure, but I've yet to read him.

Michael Brodsky

A few years ago he released an interesting-looking novel called Invidicum. It's a monster of a maximalist novel if you're into that sort of thing. His works are really difficult to find and there a few available in Anna's archive. Have you heard of him or read anyone his works?
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 2:47:56 PM No.24481628
I wish more people knew about Egon Friedell. I also wish people read Norwegian lit outside of Hamsun/Ibsen/Knausgaard.

I do like these types of threads, hopefully more anons will chime in
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 2:57:46 PM No.24481642
>>24481553
>>24481628
I'll add Brodsky to my list, I am definitely a fan of maximalist novels. I've not read much Norwegian outside of what you listed, I do enjoy Hamsun thoughbeit. He is definitely underrated in terms of influence.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 3:01:09 PM No.24481647
Louis Aragon should be considered one of the greats of French literature. Too bad he was a pedo commie
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 3:08:42 PM No.24481658
>>24481628
i've read lots of vesaas and fosse, any other good norwegians i should be checking out?
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 3:23:47 PM No.24481674
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>>24481216 (OP)
One of my favorite mid-20th century microtrends is publishers trying to sell difficult (if not downright reader-hostile) books to the masses, and this paperback edition makes it look like a cheeky mod caper. I assume it is far from congruent with the actual text?
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 4:21:47 PM No.24481790
>>24481674
It is a cheeky mod caper at heart. It's about fixing a horse race, but the plot is almost periphery if that makes sense. He writes almost mythically, it's dreadful, but in a good way.
>>24481647
I'll admit I'm not great with the Frenchies, I've read some Balzac and Houellebecq.
>>24481628
I've never heard of him. What would you recommend I start with?
>>24481553
I do love a great thick book.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 4:25:42 PM No.24481802
>>24481674
Oh, and I forgot to say, it is very much reader hostile. I thought Pynchon and Gaddis were "gloves off uncaring" but Hawkes is unapologetically difficult.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 6:16:45 PM No.24482095
>>24481216 (OP)
Non-Moby-Dick Melville. Pierre and Confidence-Man are both fantastic, but incredibly underrated.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 12:02:10 AM No.24483058
>>24481658
Alfred Hauge is severely underrated. Olav Duun is an author I'm looking to explore more, Menneske & Maktene was decent but I hope to enjoy other works more.


Of newer stuff I've really enjoyed Steinar Løding, especially Flukten fra Niniveh, since footnotes stretching over many pages about Mesopotamian archeology is my jam.
Jens Bjørneboe is still popular I suppose, but people should read his History of Bestiality and not just The Sharks.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 2:27:38 AM No.24483439
>>24481647
>Louis Aragon should be considered one of the greats of French literature
He is, in France. Aragon isn't translated into English or popular due to his ties to communism. No American publishing house wanted to take up that yoke. I believe in the 30's and 40's he had one or two of his novels translated into English, but they were published by now-defunct publishing houses and didn't even sell well at their release. I've considered translating Aragon and re-translating Aurélien (I believe this and Paysan de Paris are his only translated works, Paysan ought to still sell since it's a seminal Surrealist text), but that's an arduous task and I have no PUBLISHED translations under my belt. I have two translations I have completed (novels from the 1970s) and I'm working on a third translation (from 2019, with a sequel and 2020, and supposedly two others to follow...). All of this is to say that even supposing I could get funding/backing to translate Aragon, it would most likely dry up when the initial translation fails in the English market. Although I do undoubtedly believe that a new translation, or publishing the old, possibly lost translation of Aurélien would be a smashing success. Especially among the BookTok and Romantasy crowd. Aurélien is one of the best love stories I have ever read.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 2:40:11 AM No.24483459
>>24483439
Nta but La Semaine Sainte (Holy Week) also had a translation. Was planning to shill it here if it turned out to be as good as Aurelien
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 2:49:56 AM No.24483482
>>24483439
You do you man, best of luck. one of the most insightful anons on this board
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 2:50:08 AM No.24483483
>>24483459
I looked up the Wikipedia page and the English language reviews trashed the translation. Did you read the English translation of Aurélien? Also, obviously La Con d'Irène has been translated and is popular. But yeah, I think if Le Monde Réel was translated in its entirety it could be bring about renewed interest in Aragon from the English speaking world.
His poetry may have been translated, not too sure about its success.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 2:54:06 AM No.24483494
>>24483483
No I read the French version of Aurelien. He really deserves good translations
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 3:02:15 AM No.24483510
>>24483494
I don't think there's anything wrong with the old translation, I consulted it when I initially tried translating Aurélien (which I have given up on for now, I need more experience before tackling it, and tackling a 700 page novel is a daunting task lol, especially since translating is something I do in my free time), and I didn't really see anything wrong with it. The problem with the old translation is the publishing house Sloan and Durrell no longer exists and got absorbed by Random House, I think, one of the big five at least, and they have most likely lost the proofs for it. So I imagine reprinting the translation would be a huge pain in the ass. You'd have to retype it and reset it from the copy on the Internet Archive, which would be just almost as time consuming as retranslating it.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 3:11:12 AM No.24483526
>>24483510
Don't really know how all that stuff works tbqh but there are pdf versions of that translation on Anna's Archive. I used one to drop some quotes from it to get some anons to read. You can easily select the text from it. I imagine it would make things easier as you wouldn't have to retype it
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 4:35:34 AM No.24483647
>>24483482
Thanks, I've been considering suicide lately à la Werther. That shit sucks when you have very little experience with women. Every breakup, even if the relationship was short, tears you to pieces. And I've only had relations with two, technically four, women. Also before you jump to conclusions, I'm nearly 29. So I'm not some young buck crying over their first girlfriend, although technically I've never had a girlfriend, that is if you were to ask these women, they would disavow that what we had was a relationship. And that's what hurts the most.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 5:28:03 AM No.24483765
>>24481647
In addition to Aragon I postulate Romain Gary as a somewhat overlooked but consistently great novelist, among the best the French had to offer in the past century.
And of course Julien Gracq. And let us not forget Blaise Cendrars, the cheeky vitalist! Boris Vian is yet another weakness of mine. And that gal Duras, whose outlandish novellas hit like a dissociative.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 7:46:21 AM No.24483977
>>24483439
Deadasss submit to NYRB. But not a complete one off the rip (can't be too careful).
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 10:59:18 AM No.24484291
>>24481216 (OP)
Jordan Peterson
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 11:41:53 AM No.24484355
>>24481790
Read Friedell's Cultural History of the Modern Age, it's a three volume work covering the era from the Renaissance to the early 1900s. Extremely erudite man who wrote about topics from ancient Egypt to Italian poetry from Dante to d'Annunzio. He was primarily a playwright if I recall right. Born a Jew, converted to Christianity, became very conservative, had a kino suicide when the nazis came knocking at the door. Fascinating character.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 12:12:19 PM No.24484399
>>24481216 (OP)
>Robert Aickman
>Roberto Calasso
>George Dangerfield
>Allen Tate
>Heimito von Doderer
>Robinson Jeffers
>Lewis Mumford
>Henry de Montherlant
>Paul Morand
>T. E. Hulme
>Henry Williamson
>W. N. P. Barbellion
>Paul Léautaud
>Eca de Queirós
>Ostrovsky
>Jules Barbey d'Aurevilly
>Jan Potocki
>Senancour's Obermann
>Walter Savage Landor
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 12:18:25 PM No.24484412
>>24484355
Jews don't convert, they mimic.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 12:21:37 PM No.24484420
>>24484355
I'll check it out, seems like it hits a few of my buttons.
>>24484399
Out of this whole list I've only heard of Aickman. I'll look into the rest, thanks anon.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 1:50:36 PM No.24484557
>>24484399
Mumford is great, currently reading Technics & Civilization