Thread 24481538 - /lit/ [Archived: 838 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/20/2025, 1:48:27 PM No.24481538
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Why do all the retards say Evola was in favor of using sexuality for spiritual purposes?

OK, Evola wrote about sexuality in a spiritual context (Eros and the Mysteries of Love), but that doesn't mean he advocated for some kind of "spiritual libertinism." Anyone who says that has a midwit-tier understanding of his work.

For Evola—and this is self-evident—the conditions required for a relationship to become a means of spiritual ascent are impossibly rare:

>"As we have said, these possibilities are exceptional in the modern world and can only arise as a result of a happy chance, because of what they presuppose and also because of the absolutely unfavorable circumstances resulting from the 'blunting' that often characterizes woman as she has been shaped, in general, by modern civilization. It is not easy, in fact, to imagine an 'absolute woman' in the guise of an 'evolved,' more or less Americanized, girl. More generally, it is also not very easy to imagine the coexistence of the required qualities in a woman, such as we have indicated above, with those required for a relationship that, as we were saying, should also be 'modern,' that is to say, free, clear, and independent." —Julius Evola, Ride the Tiger

For Evola, the destruction of morals, the disappearance of modesty, generalized promiscuity, and the masculinization of the female sex are all factors that render 99.99% of women—and therefore any relationship—spiritually inept.

You only have to look around to see that most women hope to keep the men they sleep with on a leash. Every time a man enters a relationship he ends up totally castrated, forced to endure the whims of his partner.

It's obvious that under these conditions, with no mental peace, it's impossible to do anything spiritually.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 1:49:46 PM No.24481541
>>24481538 (OP)
They want to read Evola AND get TOPPED by BBCs on Grindr
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 1:50:55 PM No.24481545
I'm sick of the threads about this absolute chud
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 2:56:41 PM No.24481640
>>24481545
pipe down hylic
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 3:01:48 PM No.24481648
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>>24481538 (OP)
>There is a whole ritual related to anal penetration through the narrow door that opens on the labyrinth (in the man, the intestine). In Tantric Yoga, the center of Ganesha, the guardian of the gates, is in the region of the rectum. The male organ, if it penetrates directly into the zone of the coiled energy (Kundalini), can allow to awaken it brutally and to cause states of illumination and sudden perception of transcendent realities. This is why this act can play an important role in initiation. "This explains a rite of male initiation, widespread among primitive peoples, though rarely reported by Western observers ..., in which adult male insiders have sex in the anus with novices ... The custom of this kind can be very much at the basis of the homosexual eroticism encouraged so strongly by the Greeks in the classical period. This act is one of the accusations made against the Dionysian organizations by their detractors, and against certain initiatory groups in the Christian and Islamic world
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 3:40:22 PM No.24481716
>—
stop using AI to fabricate your opinions for you retard
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 4:17:45 PM No.24481782
>>24481538 (OP)
after reading evola im convinced hes one of the most misunderstood guys out there. admittedly the titles of his books are misleading if youve never read him and then because he engaged in the slitest bad-wrong-think so redditors have feel like they have to attack him with made up bullshit whenever they see him mentioned without having actually read anything by him

ive only started ride the tiger but in revolt he talks about the nature of women and men and their place and attitude a lot

tl;dr women should be subserviently to men and when they try to take control by entering mans world they fuck everything up and ruin everything including themselves it lunar vs solar principals
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 5:04:42 PM No.24481885
>>24481782

Most people have difficulty grasping an author's point unless it's explicitly repeated over 40 pages in capital letters. But in reality, Evola is quite explicit about the absurdity of using eroticism as a spiritual path, as modernity degrade women in many ways (see Riding the Tiger)

>inb4 muh tradwife cope
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 5:14:19 PM No.24481922
>>24481885
i think he even states in revolt by pointing out that his interest in tantric indan stuff has nothing to do with the dumb fake sexual form of tantric stuff that has become known in the west and in closing the book he again mentions how women get caught up in counterfeit eastern bullshit

i wish i had a pdf of it because most of his quotes online arent so interesting
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:35:55 PM No.24482787
>>24481538 (OP)
The statements in your post are not logically connected. Your argument about relationships is wrong, but even then, a relationship is not necessary for the spiritual use of sex. Evola references various forms of sexual magic throughout his works.
>>24481648
No source + purely descriptive prose, would still fuck your hungry bussy out of ten, anon.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:39:36 PM No.24482800
>>24481538 (OP)
He sex magicked with Maria de Naglowska
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:56:19 PM No.24482842
>>24482800
>Maria de Naglowska
>tfw no russian satanist sex magician gf
why even live
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 11:07:34 PM No.24482874
>>24482842
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/222239761-ritual-of-shadow
lol someone made an ai slop Evola Naglowska erotica
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 11:13:34 PM No.24482895
>>24482874
"someone"...right anon
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 11:19:39 PM No.24482914
>>24481538 (OP)
The rabbi /pol/ hates on ironically wrote a better book about sexuality related magic
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 11:21:57 PM No.24482921
>>24482914
who?
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 11:27:59 PM No.24482944
>>24482921
Yitzchak Ginsburgh aka the Angel. He overprices his books a crazy amount though
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 11:32:54 PM No.24482958
>>24482944
>Gentiles should not be permitted to live in Israel unless they may prove they are not homosexual
Wtf
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 11:33:59 PM No.24482962
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>>24482787
>Your argument about relationships is wrong, but even then, a relationship is not necessary for the spiritual use of sex

The form of the sexual encounter (a relationship vs. a ritual) is irrelevant. The central problem is the spiritual ineptitude of the modern woman, who is the "material" for any such practice.

For the man "riding the tiger," whose goal is invulnerability against the forces of dissolution, engaging with a modern woman is spiritual suicide. As a vessel of these very forces (materialism, sentimentality, consumerism etc...), her spiritual emptiness would contaminate and dissolve him rather than elevate him.

Therefore, the path of "sexual magic" is not a viable option in the current age. It cannot be treated as a mere technique because its essential prerequisite, the donna assoluta, has been virtually destroyed by modernity.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 11:36:02 PM No.24482969
>>24482874
HOLY FUCKING BASED
I LOVE THE 21ST CENTURY
>>24482944
>Ginsburgh
The NAMBLA guy? Or another Ginsburg? There's a lot of them.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 11:38:39 PM No.24482977
>>24482958
>"Ummm, hey Mr. Ginsburgh, so how do I uhhh... 'prove' that I am not gay?"
>"Well... there's two ways we can do this. One is the hard way. The other is the... soft... way. Choose wisely, and an appropriate medical assistant will tend to you shortly."
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 11:40:48 PM No.24482984
>>24482969
The monarchist guy who wants a Jewish terrorist group to rise to kill NAMBLA guy among a lot of other people.
>>24482977
Lmao
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 11:45:34 PM No.24483002
>>24482984
>The monarchist guy who wants a Jewish terrorist group to rise to kill NAMBLA guy among a lot of other people.
So like Evola if he was Jewish?
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 11:56:08 PM No.24483033
>>24483002
He is associated with fascist groups within Israel but fascists in Israel are basically a marginalized niche population despite what some leftists and Arabs would have to believe.
He is similar to Evola but does not have the same level of influence
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 12:25:36 AM No.24483127
>>24482962
I do not mean this as a criticism, this is just my genuine opinion - I think your views are too extreme and too lacking in nuance.
If ritual sex magic had such a flimsy foundation that simple cultural differences can render it inoperable, it would be a rather paltry thing. Sex magic is certainly functional today, not only for the higher type of man that Evola described but even for inferior types. Tantric sex is kind of a meme today, but many people get genuine results with it even when their personalities are unsuitable to spiritual values or dignity.
I think it is also incorrect to state that engaging with a modern woman is "spiritual suicide", especially for those elements of society that are most spiritually alive, that is, traditional men. Relationships with even the most basic type of woman are totally permissible, although many would exist only on a conventional level. As for finding an exceptional woman to create an exceptional and spiritually enriching relationship with, these surely exist, although they many not necessarily be easy to find. Keep in mind that traditional men are themselves very few in number relative to the general male population - it is the same with women. These people exist and can be found, although luck, effort and time may be necessary.
>It cannot be treated as a mere technique because its essential prerequisite, the donna assoluta, has been virtually destroyed by modernity.
The "absolute woman" is necessary for meaningful and radical sexual relationships, but she is not necessary for sex magic generally. I can't remember the exact source, but in discussing Hindu sex magic, Evola mentions how oftentimes an illiterate plebeian girl from the vulgar masses was considered most suitable, since she is closer to a simple sexual state than a cultivated woman. Character and personality are not decisive for sex magic. Any woman will do.
With that said, I would still consider sex magic practices supplementary, or perhaps to be pursued with a specific goal in mind, rather than being the one major path for anyone to walk.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 12:41:29 AM No.24483188
>>24481782
except evola was wrong in his entire worldview since he associated the warrior caste as masculine/solar which obviously isn't the case, never was. in every system the way of action is actually passive and feminine. it is associated with psyche, not spirit
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 1:00:05 AM No.24483239
>>24483127
>Tantric sex is kind of a meme today, but many people get genuine results with it even when their personalities are unsuitable to spiritual values or dignity

What are these results? Heightened sensations? Emotional catharsis? A fleeting sense of "energy"? This is not transcendence, it is psychologism, the lowest form of occultism, get real lmao.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 1:10:04 AM No.24483256
>>24483188
Both Evola and Guenon were in agreement that the primordial ideal is that of the priest-king, who has combined mastery over both action and contemplation. Evola's preference for warrior ideals was mainly a result of his own Kshatriya self-identity and also the (correct) belief that civilisation will more easily be revivified by the warrior caste than the contemplative caste.
>>24483239
Anon Tantric sex is still practiced even in Vajrayana monasteries, just recently I saw a quote by a Lama that no one will become enlightened who hasn't experienced sex magic. I think he was deliberately overselling it, but it's an important part of current day esoteric practices, among both monks and laymen.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 1:14:50 AM No.24483269
>>24481538 (OP)
I don't know dog, perhaps because there are several articles on sexual rituals in Introduction to Magic?