Thread 24484323 - /lit/ [Archived: 999 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/21/2025, 11:28:49 AM No.24484323
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consciousness is not totally located in the brain and I'm tired of saying otherwise
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 11:29:44 AM No.24484326
>>24484323 (OP)
LITERATURE
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 11:36:16 AM No.24484342
Stapp
Stapp
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>>24484326
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 11:40:15 AM No.24484351
>>24484323 (OP)
Yeah it is. The rest of the nervous system probably has some influence on your behaviour but you're not gonna lose any memories or whatever without it.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 11:43:33 AM No.24484357
it makes no difference, so why even give a shit
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 11:44:21 AM No.24484358
>>24484351
source?

>Henry Stapp proposed a quantum mechanical view of consciousness, suggesting that it's not solely contained within the brain but involves a broader interplay between mind and matter, specifically through quantum processes. He posits that conscious choices can influence physical events in the brain, implying a causal connection that isn't unidirectional from brain to mind.
>This contrasts with classical physics, which typically views the brain as a purely physical system governed by deterministic laws. Stapp's model suggests that consciousness, while associated with the brain, is not solely determined by it. Instead, conscious choices can causally impact brain activity.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 11:46:14 AM No.24484363
>>24484342
Is this book any good? Would you recommend it? What's it about?
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 11:50:34 AM No.24484369
Yeah consciousness is non-local but I wonder what's brain's part in all this? Is it something like a signal receiver?
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 11:50:48 AM No.24484370
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>>24484358
>source?
He barked.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 11:51:10 AM No.24484371
>>24484363
all of Stapp's books are interesting

>The central argument of "Henry Stapp mindful universe" rests on the interpretation of quantum mechanics, specifically, the von Neumannโ€“Wigner interpretation, emphasizing the role of the observer in the collapse of the wave function.

In the new quantum mechanics theory, conscious experiences enter into the dynamics in specified ways not fixed by physically described aspects alone.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 11:53:39 AM No.24484375
>>24484369
No it's not you idiot.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Of01gO_fC1M&pp=ygUWc3BsaXQgYnJhaW4gZXhwZXJpbWVudA%3D%3D
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 11:54:19 AM No.24484376
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>>24484323 (OP)
Trelkovsky: Tell me, at what precise moment - does an individual stop being who he thinks he is?
Stella: You know, I don't like complications.
Trelkovsky: You cut off my arm. I say, "Me - and my arm." You cut off my other arm. I say, "Me and my two arms." You - take out - take out my stomach, my kidneys, assuming that were possible. And I say, "Me and my intestines." Do you follow me? And now, if you cut off my head - would I say, "Me and my head" or "Me and my body"?

I admit I'm a physicalist. But what do idealists mean when they ask where "they" are in the body? As far as pop science is concerned, the self is roughly in the brain and its mechanisms
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 11:56:11 AM No.24484378
>>24484376
Me and my body is the clear answer.
Getting guillotined your last moments of consciousness are as a disembodied head.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 12:13:57 PM No.24484403
Of course it isn't. Materialism is hogwash that never had serious philosophical backing and washed pushed as mainstream by the media despite a majority of people disbelieving in it.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 12:15:19 PM No.24484408
>>24484403
>serious philosophical backing
It however had plenty of observational and scientific backing :]
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 12:20:17 PM No.24484416
>>24484323 (OP)
It's the heart also
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 12:21:00 PM No.24484417
>>24484408
Materialism is used as a methodology in science. It is not and cannot be reached as a metaphysical conclusion you fucking retard.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 12:22:55 PM No.24484422
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pee is stored in the balls
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 12:24:21 PM No.24484424
>>24484417
Was it revealed to you in a dream?
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 12:26:24 PM No.24484431
>>24484323 (OP)
what would Chalmers say about Searle's Chinese Room Experiment?
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 12:29:05 PM No.24484435
>>24484371
Wonder if he's related to Scott Stapp lead singer of Creed