If the Forms are only accessible through reason, does this imply that sensory experience is fundamentally misleading or irrelevant for true knowledge?

This makes me realize Epicurus was so insistent on sensory experience needing to be trusted because he had to constantly contend with the platonists during his time.

>>24493025
Wrong

>>24493030
Wrong as in the Epicurean opinion is wrong or I'm wrong to assume that's why Epicurus insisted on it

>>24493036
Both

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>>24493001 (OP)
The Greeks thought that logic and rationality were superior means of describing and interacting with the world to empirical evidence and real world application. They were aristocrats that wanted to rationalize why the slaves should to all of the physical labor and interacting with the imperfect and filthy material world which they wanted to transcend and stand anon in a realm of clean and perfect ideals.

>>24493001 (OP)
The recognition of the flawedness of sense perception is a necessary precondition of postulating the forms. Error is necessary in order to escape error.

>>24493001 (OP)
That’s just basic dualism

Sensory world= false
Forms=eternal

Your thread is basically “Is Plato Dualist?” which the answer is yes

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>>24493414
No the thread is ABOUT something brighter than that

>>24493288
this nigga gets it

>>24493001 (OP)

Bump

>>24493001 (OP)
no. reason gives you one kind of knowledge, sensory experience gives you a different kind.
pure reason can tell you the properties of an oblate spheroid, but it can't tell you that the body i am currently addressing is located on something that approximately is one, or what parameters describe that specific object.

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>>24493001 (OP)
What would he have thought of the Neoplatonists?

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>>24493512
Yes, acting like that noble character from mythology is real is a good example's of Plato's noble lies.

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