Thread 24494724 - /lit/ [Archived: 701 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/25/2025, 8:33:58 AM No.24494724
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Are there any good, original, convincing books that explain why europe is not only allowing its indigenous population to be replaced but is welcoming it? Preferably something more complex than purely economic reasons or the jews.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 9:17:19 AM No.24494772
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the camp of the sa-
>good
oh, nvm.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 9:23:54 AM No.24494777
The Gold Coffin by Ferenc Mora
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 9:28:45 AM No.24494785
>>24494724 (OP)
There really isn't any ideology governing the moment other than immense apathy and neglect, and misanthropic and deluded reactions to it that add to the nihilism spite instead of replacing it with anything noble. This is the history of all civilizations and all forms of governance, as they and their technologies become more complex, individuals become more alienated from material autonomy, and their material incentive becomes a stagnation in their own specialization, until contradictions pile too high and a new form must be erected. The European is concerned in the immediacy over the next meal and consistent shelter, not some abstract notions of a culture that has been dead since WW2. Have you met an European? They are the same stupid animals as anyone else; boorish, dull, and long removed from their childhood understanding that the world and their lives are beautiful. Anyone concerned about these imagined pasts does not have a meal on their table and/or has an excess amount of energy and ignorance they feel unable to apply towards anything, so they seek to recede into and propagate a vision of nostalgia and make the world submit to it. There aren't any good books solely on this phenomena because it is so simple and tedious, but it's a constant theme through the entire history of literature. If you want to understand any historical phenomena, the formula at the beginning of Brother's Karamazov for sin; that it purely is a manifestation of neglect, can enable you to understand all of humanity and its inadequacies if you properly understand it. Tolstoy's 'letter to the Chinaman', though I don't entirely agree with his solution (technology is a fire that can't be unlearned in my view), is a great illustration of the fundamental lack of vitality in civilization. Wordsworth's The Prelude also well speaks on this, as do his lyric Poems, or any of William Morris' poems, or really any great Romantic in any medium, as they first saw the death of vitality when it was thrown into the furnace and casted into the Industrial Revolution. If Europeans didn't care about their children being enslaved in factories to be crushed by presses and dismembered by gears in the 19th century, all just to create new technologies of destruction and pollution, why would many of them care of some foreigners coming to Europe for a bit of a respite from their slave fields?
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 9:30:33 AM No.24494788
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>>24494724 (OP)
Yes.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 9:45:01 AM No.24494807
are things actually that bad in europe? sweden sounds like an actual shithole

t. burger
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 10:46:19 AM No.24494868
>>24494807
The migrant situation isn't as bad as people make it out to be. The permanent underclass has been replaced with browns and blacks. No US-style racial tensions though.
On the other hand everything else is pretty bleak. European elites are just aping whatever is trending in NYC/Silicon Valley/Dubai/Singapore. Nobody has a coherent vision for the future, except maybe economic populism and importing browns to inflate the GDP.
It's a dictatorship of unassuming businessmen and self-important Gen X women with diplomas.
In regards to literature: everyone is gulping down American YA and romance. In regards to shows, people watch whatever filth is on Netflix.
In regards to religion, no one is really religious anymore except for virginal teen girls. Yet everyone is pointing to "christian values" as if they made sense without Christ.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 11:12:30 AM No.24494897
>>24494785
>Anyone concerned about these imagined pasts does not have a meal on their table and/or has an excess amount of energy and ignorance they feel unable to apply towards anything, so they seek to recede into and propagate a vision of nostalgia and make the world submit to it.
How come Zionists are successful then?
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 11:44:24 AM No.24494939
>>24494897
Zionists have literally lost all connection to anything relating to great Jewish culture, they are the most stupid, savage, ugly, and annoying people on the planet, they are universally loathed. Their "success" is in destroying an infinitely nobler people and blowing up every last beautiful peace of architecture in the holy land, who would want to replicate that. Nothing about them or their country is appealing to a decent person, they are quite literally incapable of anything besides massacres. The select Jews who have been able to produce immortal culture since zionism are diaspora who have absolutely no affiliation with it. Do we seriously believe we will get a Truffaut or Kafka out of Israel? Of course not, the only people that country can produce are the lowest imbeciles
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 12:03:16 PM No.24494954
>>24494772
It's a good book (admittedly not in the best of the author) and fits OP perfectly.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 12:05:59 PM No.24494956
>>24494724 (OP)
>europe is not only allowing its indigenous population to be replaced but is welcoming it?

There is no such replacement going on. Replacement implies that the locals are being kicked out, which isn't happening in europe
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 12:10:51 PM No.24494962
>>24494939
>Zionists have literally lost all connection to anything relating to great Jewish culture
What are you talking about? Cicero described iron-age Jews the same way Luther described medieval ones. In what way do you believe they have degenerated?
>they are universally loathed
Not by people with any influence in the West which are their loyal servants.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 12:23:42 PM No.24494974
>>24494868
>Yet everyone is pointing to "christian values" as if they made sense without Christ.
They don't
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 1:04:19 PM No.24495028
>>24494724 (OP)
The Strange Death of Europe, but bear in mind that Murray is a transparent propagandist
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 1:05:52 PM No.24495031
>>24494897
Zionists are currently
>hated by the entire world
>in something like a five front war, surrounded
>collapsing into fascism and apartheid - a states last breath
Yeah they're doing swell.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 1:27:45 PM No.24495057
>>24494897
usury
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 1:36:36 PM No.24495070
Business: we need cheap labour
Leftists: we gotta share the wealth and let people from poor shitholes come over
Everyone: ww2 was terrible, no racial hatred or division ever again, were all human beans after all, refugs need a safe place in Europe.
>Sorry we cant send people back because human rights and sheet
>Stop complaining about migrants, we are wealthy and our society is safe
>They will integrate after x generations
>Ok we also need to adapt a little
>There is no us and them, except there is in practice
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:05:38 PM No.24495583
>>24494956
How do people like you still exist in 2025
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:16:42 PM No.24495608
>>24494956
Except they are because they move in to places where the locals don’t want them and their governments make it illegal to try to prevent them from moving in at all. So the locals’ only recourse after they’re forced to live with their new brownoid neighbors and all the associated ills is flight. De facto kicked out by their governments even if they’re not literally commanded to leave a certain place.
Plus natives have below replacement birthrates while immigrants have above replacement ones so these countries are actually losing natives and filling their place with immigrants
This is simple but I know you’ll come up with some way to deny it anyway
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:16:54 PM No.24495609
>>24494868
Kek. I visited Europe recently. It’s so much worse than Americans even think it is and Europeans are willing to admit. We have always had a black underclass running amok in the cities but you guys have well and truly let your cities be taken over by third worlders for real. What’s worse is the laws you guys use to oppress your own natives. In England you get arrested for saying negative things about immigration and everybody walks on egg shells and goes full NPC all the time. In America, you can say whatever you want, shoo them away, and god forbid a black or even migrant break into your house or even touch you aggressively, you can just shoot them pretty much in any city including the lefty ones. An activist DA might go after you, but per the letter of the law it’s fine. Furthermore, the white public is pretty likely to intervene. That’s not the case at all in Europe. In Europe, migrants will just openly harass and assault natives while everybody just stands around and watches and if you dare defend yourself or speak your mind you get prosecuted. It’s nuts.

In many of the cities, Europe has become maybe the single worst place on the planet and I’m not even exaggerating about that. I’ve been to much of the third world. I’d know.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:18:36 PM No.24495616
Oswald Spengler’s Decline of the West

tl;dr Europe lost then civilization war and is now living through a sort of Hyksos period where everything is done according to the desires of money interests, subversive elements, and foreign regimes.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:27:23 PM No.24495635
Volkish nationalism was always a 19th century post Napoleon LARP, not clear why people would stick to it hundreds of years later, especially now air travel has been invented. How long are we going to pretend that Germany is real? Or the Czech Republic? Or Northern Ireland?
The question is ask is how such a thing arose in the first place, not why reversion to the mean is happening.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:34:17 PM No.24495650
>>24495583
Having working neurons.

>>24495608
>because they move in to places where the locals don’t want them and their governments make it illegal to try to prevent them from moving in at all.
Makes sense. Government doesn't have a
legitimate reason to stop them from moving in.
>they’re forced to live with their new brownoid neighbors and all the associated ills is flight
What a plight it must be (lol).
>De facto kicked out by their governments
I wonder where the "replaced" populations are going. Oh wait, they are still in their cities, countries, Europe.
>Plus natives have below replacement birthrates while immigrants have above replacement ones so these countries are actually losing natives and filling their place with immigrants
Not replacement.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:42:26 PM No.24495662
>>24495635
Who knows what you even mean by volkish nationalism. The masses always resort to ethnic infighting, especially in white countries among white people where frankly social-economical issues are of lesser concern because whites just find a way to make it work, because of the failures of democracy. Democracy fails, oligarchs care about money, which leads to ethnic replacement, and in turn, the masses resort to ethnic politics. That’s just how it goes. The singular cause of “volkish nationalism” (in reality just ethnic politics) in the 21st century is 100% democracy.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:52:11 PM No.24495686
>>24494724 (OP)
i dont get it. it doesn't make sense
makes me think education in the modern sense is a type of weapon used against one population against another or something. rather than empowering a people it uses high iq people from that population as vectors for a virus to destroy it. or something
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:55:31 PM No.24495694
>>24495609
>In many of the cities, Europe has become maybe the single worst place on the planet and I’m not even exaggerating about that. I’ve been to much of the third world. I’d know.

This is delusional, and I'm a big critic of neo-liberalism. I've been to a decent amount of Europe but also Mexico, Guatemala, Ecuador, Egypt, and they are vastly shittier. People say Paris isn't safe but still walk around all night safe and sound. If you're a gringo, you are sure as fuck inside a compound surrounded by walls mounted in shards of broken glass or razor ribbon (i.e. every residential building) by nightfall. There are riot police and soldiers out on the street as a matter of normal business, etc. I got robbed twice there in 12 days last time. And also everything is shitty and incredibly dirty (Cairo is even worse). Paris and Rome aren't any worse than 90s NYC by contrast, which makes them better than many US locales like Camden or Saint Louis.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:56:14 PM No.24495697
>>24495662
It’s a pretty well known concept anon. But you seem to be eliding it with some sort of collective white identity. Which surely contradicts having individual nationalisms in separate European states. And besides, the wogs start at Calais
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:01:29 PM No.24495710
>>24495609
I laughed. You clearly never visited europe, I don't think you ever left Israel.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:09:47 PM No.24495728
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:10:19 PM No.24495733
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>>24494788
>>24495028
Beat me to it but I'll raise you this
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:18:50 PM No.24495755
>>24494807
The historic racial tension in america has largely been between a group comprising of something between 10-15% percent of the population and the majority, and this group has no sense of identity rooted in their original culture or religion.
The immigrant and second gen immigration percentage of sweden is just below 24%, and this happened in just a few decades. In addition these people largely not consider themselves swedish in any way and have strained one of the most well functioning welfare states to the point that the question is not if this historically unique will collapse, but when.

>>24495694
>People say Paris isn't safe but still walk around all night safe and sound.
Every major city (and several not so major ones) in europe is less safe than it was, and this is somehow fine because third world countries are still more dangerous? Some people exaggerating doensnt make this kind of argumentation any less pointless.
No matter how many embellished arguments exist the facts remain the same, and they all show no benefits with massive costs, even if were talking strictly economy and forgoing everything else.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:40:05 PM No.24495794
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>>24495635
>not clear why people would stick to it hundreds of years later, especially now air travel has been invented
Midwits are so fucking insufferable. Pic related. And now that I think about it, for extra credit you can try to justify in that little pea brain of yours fascist Aeropittura futurista
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:55:13 PM No.24495818
>>24495755
> immigrant and second gen immigration percentage of sweden is just below 24%
Most of those are white Eastern Europeans and other white trash.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 8:02:57 PM No.24495831
>>24495694
I don’t disagree that they are physically shittier but the dystopian quality that exists in these European cities is a degree higher than anywhere. Paris actually looks worse than most third world cities now precisely because the backdrop is not some backwater that never really got to civilization. It looks like a place fallen to anarchy after Africans have invaded and pillaged the place. Your comparison of Paris and Rome with NYC is based on aggregate statistics which at best are misleading. If a single ultra-violent ghetto outpaces aggregate crime over another place which is all around shit, the latter isn’t any worse. It’s the same dynamic here just less extreme. Be less stat brained. They don’t tell you the full story about the experienced reality. They only help you better understand it once you have experienced it.

>>24495710
Lived in Europe for 3.5 years actually. Want to know the kicker? I’m from Philadelphia. Cope if you want but Europe is in the gutter.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 8:04:17 PM No.24495833
>>24495697
Yeah a concept that doesn’t really exist anywhere today. So what contemporary trend you could possibly understand as volkish nationalism is anyone’s guess. Sounds like leftoid paranoia to me. I also never said white nationalism retard. I said ethnic politics.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 8:06:45 PM No.24495840
>>24495755
Those third world countries are only statistically more dangerous. You can walk through the commercial districts of Latin American cities pretty much unimpeded and totally safely. That is increasingly not the case in European cities. In Paris, African thugs openly harass and assault people in the city’s busiest areas. That doesn’t even happen in America. In fact, Europe is the only place in the world that happens commonly.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 8:10:52 PM No.24495849
>>24495840
In a Europe where most men have become gay faggots, and women either Karens or tattooed sluts, I welcome this negative development.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 8:18:14 PM No.24495860
Soyjack merchant
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>In a Europe where most men have become gay faggots, and women either Karens or tattooed sluts, I welcome this negative development.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 8:40:30 PM No.24495904
>>24494939
This post was written by a butt blasted brownie. "Infinity nobler people" come on, have some self respect. There is a real world outside the university campuses, never forget
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 8:44:57 PM No.24495908
>>24495860
Kys, urban rat.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 8:49:52 PM No.24495913
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>>24495609
>americans stand up for themselves
>americans aren‘t the source and ground zero of all anti-White behavior
>60% White Paris where the minorities are mostly business class arabs is the third world not Detroit or Chicago or Los Angeles or Memphis or Baltimore or

Got me Moishe, ngl
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 8:54:05 PM No.24495921
>>24495908
You are either brown or Jewish or both.
First off what you say isn't even true in the first place and second if you unironically gloat about Europeans feeling unsafe in their own cities you are an enemy of the West.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 8:54:51 PM No.24495927
Migrants when they're not in packs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ALA3ws4c84
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 8:56:23 PM No.24495932
>>24495921
Urban rat, you get what you deserve.
The only peoples who deserve an ethnistate are cow owning farmers.
Everybody else can rot and die.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 9:01:39 PM No.24495944
>>24495932
Cow farmers don‘t produce a lot of good literature. Maybe a counterexample or two somewhere but I‘m struggling to think of instances where great art didn‘t come from people immersed in cultural centers.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 9:03:12 PM No.24495949
>>24495913
>60% white
No replacement happening though!
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 9:10:17 PM No.24495962
>>24495609
you clearly have never been to europe, whatever the fuck you are.

i visited in 2016. never went to france, but in austria, even the migrants were nice. one of them paid for my cigs from a vending machine cuz my card didn't work. im assuming the issue is the worst in france, and perhaps areas of germany. but not at all like what rightoids portray online.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 9:11:20 PM No.24495967
>>24495962
>they are nice!
Actual NPC.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 9:14:01 PM No.24495971
>>24495949
I didn‘t say the state of things was good. But you always find some retards or brainrotted internet children or possible disinfo agents who want to paint the matter as three times worse than it is, which is extremely suspicious behavior when it‘s meant to malign places (Europe) which still have a chance against the light of those which don‘t (America outside of a few regions.)
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 9:15:21 PM No.24495973
>>24495971
>its bad but its not THAT bad
Why make excuses at all? Its fucking abominable whats going on in Europe.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 9:17:42 PM No.24495978
>>24495944
Let's hear what you consider great art so we can all have a laugh
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 9:20:35 PM No.24495984
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>>24495978
The Cow (1969)
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 9:22:00 PM No.24495988
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>>24495984
And Cow (2021)
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 9:34:46 PM No.24496008
backedupbysciencepepe
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>>24494724 (OP)
you don't need a book, it can be explained in a few sentences. basically Whites won too bigly and we got too comfy and forgot we were at war and the enemy (kikes) didn't forget so they've worked tirelessly to replace us via psychological warfare
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 9:41:24 PM No.24496017
>>24495944
You could make that argument if the aids and drug infested cities of Europe actually had produced anything of value during the last 50 years
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 11:09:55 PM No.24496209
>>24494956
>>24495650
Yes and water is dry, a tomato is a jet engine, elephants are fish.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 11:21:58 PM No.24496227
>>24495973
I didn‘t make excuses. I said not to exaggerate and delineated the clear purpose of avoiding demoralization.

>>24495978
I was primarily thinking of Shakespeare and Schiller/Goethe being situated in London/Weimar and having the means to conduct their work from the cultural capital which existed there. On a less literary tone, that effectively all meaningful classical music at some point used either Vienna or Paris as a springboard and most composers made these locations their lifelong centers.
>but that was a long time ago
Still conveys the fundamental principle.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 11:49:55 PM No.24496285
>>24494724 (OP)
the talmud
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 11:53:05 PM No.24496287
>>24496209

Words don't start meaning things that they don't just because you want them to. Not a single human being is being "replaced" in europe.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:11:30 AM No.24496325
how about you just build strong communities and maintain your culture within them?

diaspora tend to preserve a culture better than their home origins anyway. you could apply this thinking at home. put in the extra effort; lean into it, rather than relying on your culture being the status quo (while you fail to breed).

unless you have a better practical long-term solution...
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:40:01 AM No.24496473
>>24494724 (OP)
it's the jews

that's literally it
no books necessary
just jews hating white people and wanting to create a multiracial multisexual 80-90IQ group of golems to control out of the goys
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:57:10 AM No.24496639
>>24496325
Maintaining your culture and community is discrimination, and discrimination is very illegal. You will get sued by the aclu. The modern racial grievance industry (including lawfare) is at least 75 years old, stop being fucking retarded.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 10:04:38 AM No.24497251
>>24495927
so your example is white-on-white crime in broad daylight in a business district full of families and people of all backgrounds some working and some enjoying leisure?
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 10:12:57 AM No.24497264
>>24495794
Male wolves often kill their pups when hungry. It’s almost like we’re not wolves. Any other brilliant examples?
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:03:40 PM No.24497389
>>24497251
that guy in the mask is obviously brown my ninja
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:44:28 PM No.24497412
>>24495609
>Europe
>ruined English city
I see.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:48:54 PM No.24497417
>>24495635
There is much, much more ethnic nationalism among the immigrants than the natives, you know. What an incredible pseud thing to say, anyway. Speak to real people once in a while, outside online forums and university campuses, if you want to ever have something meaningful to say about the world