why can't women enjoy literature?

>>24496971 (OP)
Sexism is bad, and a lot of old literature is sexist, so a lot of old literature is bad. They're just calling a spade a spade. Do better and listen to their lived experience.

>>24496971 (OP)
Look at the top 100 books on Goodreads from 2024 and that should answer your question.

Men don't read and women read slop.

It's one review from a gender that spans billions of people. Do you think no man has ever left a stupid review before?

>>24496978
Women I've met who read will inevitably bring up the gender of authors

>>24496971 (OP)
dumb bitch got filtered by Edward John Moreton Drax Plunkett I see

>>24496982
Us men would never bring up the gender of an author we're reading. It's obviously always a male.

>>24496989
I read Flannery O'Connor.

>>24496989
Yes, and?

The heroine's journey consists of staying in the village and talking to people about their feelings

>>24497061
didn't this bitch literally kill herself because she wrote a biography that no one cared about?

>>24496976
meanwhile:

The Scum Manifesto:

Abundance of five star reviews from women on Goodreads

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/52263.SCUM_Manifesto?ac=1&from_search=true&qid=GmCbGNjBcj&rank=1

>>24496971 (OP)
Woman can only enjoy things that affirms their existence, so they enjoy things about themselves. They want to self insert, anything conceptual is beyond their conginition.

>>24496971 (OP)
What book?

>>24496976
you are either retarded and blind to female double standards or just retarded

>>24497061
based quote.

>>24496976
>calling a spade a spade
>Do better
lol

>>24497162
looks like the latter

>fantasy
>literature

lol looks like OP had a woman moment of his own

>>24496971 (OP)
women are the primary anti-civilisational force in human life

>>24497061
>The heroine's journey consists of staying in the village and talking to people about their feelings
Kek

>>24497061
Picrel is my opinion about this board desu.

why can't men enjoy literature?

>>24497149
Dunsany's The King of Elfland's Daughter.

>>24496978
Shut the fuck up simp faggot

>>24496971 (OP)
Women don't read. They consoom.

>>24496971 (OP)
This is probably a review of The King of Elfland's Daughter of anyone's interested. Incredibly based aristocrat author who dashed off a billion pages of early fantasy between his hunting and fireside leisure

>>24496971 (OP)
Most girls love the King of Elfland's Daughter
>>24496976
Men whine if their capeshit has a corny feminist comment inserted by the woke crowd. It's understandable that something that sounds like its by a writer who hates you would not be a fun read. It's just weird she hates Dunsany of all people considering how positive his female characters are

>>24496971 (OP)
I hate women.

>>24497061
I don't like Wolfe but there's something oddly based about this opinion.

>>24498177
>>24498453
I love Dunsany, he doesn't get enough love here at all.

>>24496971 (OP)
Women don’t like doing things for themselves. They want things to happen to them.

>>24498484
I read him together with the Silmarillion and Peter Beagle's last Unicorn. It's weird how well it flowed together, truly the first of a tradition

>>24498496
Dunsany's short story collections are full of gems.

Carcassonne and Sacnoth among my favorites.

>>24498498
They are. The first one I read was the one where the guy is watching a different world through a portal window (The Wonderful Window)
It was less ethereal and unique than the other ones but I felt genuinely shook up at the end

>>24498507
Dunsany was a prolific writer who wrote over 400 stories in the span of like 20 years, most of them short stories that he wrote in the span of 1-2 days each. many of them he wrote in a single sitting with no editing or anything. he was a genius

>>24496971 (OP)
>>24496976
And yet how many of the same people who espouse these views about classic literature also act like Kendrick Lamar is a modern day poetic messiah despite constantly using the words “bitch” and “hoe”?

>>24496971 (OP)
Pretty much any novel written by a dude gets this. Asimov, Murakami, PKD; pretty much any time I read a book and happen to see what the losers on goodreads have to say it’s something about sexism or blah blah blah

>>24498509
Yep. It's pretty awesome how much output he had. On one hand he was an aristocrat who had servants taking care of him but on the other even rich authors procrastinate or have trouble with thinking of an end (cough, cough GRRM)

>>24498525
They sometimes attack female writers as pick-mes if they chose a male protagonist. Bullying Mary Shelley and JKR

>>24498540
>was an aristocrat who had servants taking care of him
Dunsany went bankrupt several times. He wasn't as rich as you make him out to be. He had to sell many books from his personal holdings. over half of his vellum bound manuscripts, including over half of the manuscripts of the king of elfland's daughter are at the university of texas because he had to sell them to a collector to make ends meet.

Yes, he was often wealthy and had an extravagant life. But he had hardship too.

https://norman.hrc.utexas.edu/fasearch/findingAid.cfm?eadid=00773

>>24498545
you can see the other vellum bound manuscripts here still @ Dunsany Castle today

>>24498544
They just bully the former for being the go-to “I don’t read women but I did like Frankenstein” pick and those types hate JK for being a terf or whatever

>>24498545
I don't think he had a cloudless easy life. He seems to have been part of a tradition of soldier fantasy writers (Tolkien, Richard Adams, C.S Lewis) and so he would have seen gore and death and other terrible things
But some artists today often wish they were an aristocrat because servants would take care of their chores and they would have more working time
Interesting about the books

>>24498545
I would buy the heck out of that, I admit. Imagine having the writer's original manuscript

>>24498558
I didn't realize that men claiming they don't read any women but Shelley was a meme off this board. JKR they sometimes attack for not being "a girl's girl" and making Hermione the main hero

>>24498565
Dunsany also had extravagant bindings made for himself for each of his works. You can see THE SWORD OF WELLERAN in this photo here. If you know that work, you will spot it immediately.

>>24497061
She would be a cancelled TERF if alive today.

>>24498572
Everything looks so beautiful

>>24498579
Here's my vellum bound copy of The Fortress Unvanquishable, Save for Sacoth, 1 of 10 copies. The only copy in the public (the others are at cambridge, British library, boston library, etc) as all those institutions were due one. Dunsany was infinitely famous during his lifetime, so his early works were treated wonderfully.

>>24498590

>>24498590
You are a man of taste. I had a friend who wanted to commission an illustrated copy of his stories but project was interrupted
There is something about vellum

>>24498594

>>24498595
This one was bound in 1910 by William Northend. It's 125 years old!

>>24498597
Beautiful and perfect for a quality work of fiction. I know WWI was a nightmare but man, was the art beautiful just prior.

>>24498600
interestingly enough. I found an article from 1914 that mentions just that. the work went on exhibition in 1914 and it mentions Northend was away in the service.

>>24498603
We lost so many good poets and painters to the meat grinder

>>24498608
Yes. Almost Dunsany too, at least from civil unrest. He returned home from fighting in 1918 I think, and there was a riot going on in Dunsany. And as he was driving home, his car was attacked by assassins, and shield his driver from the attack he got shot in the head and somehow survived with a bullet lodged in his skull for the rest of his life. I've read all the very obscure biographies of Dunsany of the time, one recounting that once he saved someone from drowning on a beach. I collect all his works and study him, but he was a very enigmatic person overall. There is only 1 recording of his voice extant. There was television footage of him once from BBC but it is now considered lost media. But the air of mystery and a strong mythos surrounding Dunsany continues to this day.

Here's a real photograph of the man himself in his later age, 1952. His signature is on it as well.

>>24498625
Dunsany with Yeats (Dunsany was supposedly 6'4 or 6'5 tall).

>>24498630
Kek, the way Yeats is looking at the giga chad.
On a serious note, Dunsany, Yeats, and possibly even Tolkien had contact with ghosts and elves and I believe this firmly

>>24496976
Sexism is good tho. Women belong in the kitchen and household.

>>24496976
If you want to judge historical persons based on modern standards, then you have no business reading them to begin with. You make yourself beneath them by your arrogant assumption that you've found the sole, valid interpretation of human experience.

>>24496971 (OP)
One thing that perplexes me about women is how if a book has “sexism” or “racism” in it or any values that they the reader disagree with, that makes the book lower quality somehow, enough to give it a 1 star rating.

For example, I think Michael Moorcock is a huge fucking faggot libtard and I think Elric is a weak pussy libtard but I still recognize that the quality of the Elric of Melnibone stories/books are genuinely quite good.

>>24497061
she's right lol.

>>24497061
she's right, straight men are incapable of writing about something tangible and real.

>>24497061
This single quote just encompasses every reason that makes Woolf the only good female author.

>>24498915
There's nothing realer than honor

>>24498931
when honor stopped being currency it ceased to exist

>>24497061
>"Virtue and honor? But I want to be an irresponsible degenerate!"
Unironically exactly how she lived her life, and then committed suicide, lol.

>>24497061
>Literally all modern female authors/publishers think this and wonder why men don't read anymore

>>24498641
Women are to bear men's children. The arts, crafts, and the love of sharing them is reserved for men only.

Athens had society figured out and we fucked it up.

they can

>>24497061
>I am bored by his heroism, virtue, and honour.
-Woolf
>I have, at times, longed for death. There's never been a time I longed for dishonor.
-Wolfe

>>24497061
pretentious bitch

>>24498946
Oh it's there, my blind friend. It is always there waiting for all men who have the courage to stumble forwards in the dark

>>24498641
I disagree. They should also be sending to the garden.

>>24496976
No it isn’t. Their perceptions of the world are always unreliable to everyone including themselves, perpetually biased towards their individual benefit and terribly incomplete and should not ever be used to inform large-scale change

>>24497061
>((Woolf))
The lack of a Y chromosome was enough to know she was incapable of producing righteousness, before all the info this picture introduced to me.

>>24499173
Is weaving considered the crafts? That is the actual women's work and the aimlessness of women today is derived from how weaving, maintenance, and repair of clothing was the first thing to be ruthlessly automated away by the industrial revolution.

You mention Athens, note how in Greek myth Athena loses her shit because Arachne, a woman, is more skilled at weaving than the goddess so Athena curses her.

>>24496971 (OP)
Women can't enjoy literature because although on average, women have higher IQ than men, the greatest works of literature and fiction were made by extremely high IQ men (who collectively outnumber and outdo high IQ women). Most great books are genuinely too complex or nuanced for average women to understand as products of people existing in different parts of history.

Take the average man. Now make him slightly clever but take away his self-awareness, remove his accountability and reason, then make him emotionally dysregulated and a massive consumer who cares too much about the opinions of others. This is your average female reader.

>>24499697
Female bell curve is tighter with less outliers. They are unironically all midwits.

>>24499614
She was a White aristocrat and antisemitic but she found that White men frowned on her intellectual pursuits so she married a Jew
It's actually surprisingly common. My aunt's friend who is a formerly Christian math professor ended up with some Israeli bodybuilder

>>24499679
Weaving used to be considered the crafts. Same with sewing and lace-making and other textile related work. A lot of societies were actually less sexist than you might think because women were trusted with some of the most important crafts to keep a society running; you would literally be naked without them
It's also true that girls were writing poems and making pottery since time immemorial; Athens was considered unusually sexist for its time because emotional/romantic connections were outsourced to homosexuals

>>24497574
My English teacher's favourite book

>>24496976
>Sexism is bad
I know this is a bait post but I've yet to see any proof of this claim.

>>24497061
it's becoming increasingly difficult for me to justify why women deserve to have the same rights as, or be treated equally, to men

>>24496971 (OP)
If the human prince killing her guards and running away with her would've been written from the female POV and was accompanied by a graphic erotic scene it would've been the typical romance novel enjoyed by thousands of women.

So what's the actual issue?

>>24497061
Woolf was a great writer. Am I supposed to be annoyed that a woman finds male abstractions like honour boring? Of course she does: she's a woman.

Seems dumb to rage at women when they're just being true to their nature. If anything they're too masculine these days. They've become retarded with penis envy.

>>24497092
Holy shit. The incels were right about them?

>>24498915
>>24498912
Unlike women, right? You're just confessing virginity.

>>24501367
>jew betabuxxes ran-through woman that kills herself
>this is somehow an "own"

>>24497511
>men
>that pic
chomo

>>24497477
>>24498461
>>24498915

posts like this are why this board is especially associated with faggotry

>>24497061
great quote that just proves how awesome men are and who shitty f*males are. like how that feminism test about women talking to each other in movies is just a list of shitty movies you should never watch

>>24501808
On the contrary, I find the endless male self-congratulations from the average failed normie newfag to be the most homoerotic. They get agitated and annoyed whenever anon even briefly agree with some female point of view. Hatred of women is only meant to be ironic, not sincere. All of this is spiritually homosexual. Like all the radfem who are slowly turning into spiritual dykes. Cut from the same cloth.

>>24496971 (OP)
Women type up shit like this but then also salivate over serial killers. They're deranged mental creatures that don't even understand themselves

>>24501856
>All of this is spiritually homosexual.

If you don't hate Women or even dislike them for their nature you're homosexual at best.

>>24501861
>men fantasize over conquering
based and keyed
>women fantasize over being conquered
wtf??? whores!

>>24501866
I don't dislike them for their nature. I dislike that foreign Semitics have usurped and weaponized that nature against us.

You are too lost in the sauce to see what a gaynigger you've turned into.

>>24501874
>da joos are behind it

listen chuddie women have been shit since the oldest written literature

>>24501749
It's not an "own" more like an observation that nerds tend to marry out of their own ethnic group. Being married to Virginia was probably the equivalent of being married to Lovecraft and Hemingway, sure they were brilliant but they made their (non-White) wives/husbands suffer.

>>24501902
>stop noticing, goy
>only like male nature
sussy baka

>>24501869
I'd despise a man who fantasizes over being conquered too