Thread 24500152 - /lit/ [Archived: 716 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/27/2025, 1:09:45 PM No.24500152
Mongol Empire
Mongol Empire
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Why didn't they leave behind any great works of literature? They definitely had plenty of time to do so.
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 1:13:42 PM No.24500155
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>>24500152 (OP)
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 1:15:59 PM No.24500157
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Why didn't they leave behind any great works of literature? They definitely had plenty of time to do so.
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 1:17:20 PM No.24500161
>>24500155
>>24500157
>First two responses are retarded as fuck
Grim. Grim and unfunny.
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 1:17:45 PM No.24500163
>>24500152 (OP)
Because literature is a civilisationcuck cope. If your life is just raping and pillaging and killing and getting killed you're basically in love with life 24/7 and you don't have to write.
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 1:19:26 PM No.24500167
>>24500155
>>24500157
>>24500163
>Preschoolers understanding of the Mongolian Empire
I thought you /lit/ cocksuckers were supposed to be SMART?
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 1:26:03 PM No.24500181
>/lit/ genuinely, sincerely fell for the "retarded steppe barbarians" meme
Genghis Khan was smarter than all of you combined.
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 1:30:36 PM No.24500191
>>24500167
let me guess, your teacher told you how the Mongols were actually complex and sensitive human beings who fought for economic equality and the right to have butt sex?
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 1:31:45 PM No.24500193
Forg of honesty
Forg of honesty
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Why is discussing eastern cultures fucking impossible on this board?
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 1:32:20 PM No.24500196
>>24500152 (OP)
They did, Secret History of the Mongols is a great work of literature.
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 1:33:02 PM No.24500197
>>24500181
>uhm actually the Vikings were peaceful traders and raids on monasteries were very rare.

please just kill yourself.
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 1:34:09 PM No.24500202
>>24500193
because we have to tolerate retards like you.
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 1:36:10 PM No.24500208
>>24500197
Literally no one said that. Quit making assumptions, cocksucker.
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 1:37:32 PM No.24500213
>>24500208
go back to plebbit you tard.
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 1:39:19 PM No.24500220
>>24500213
>LE PLEBBIT LE MENTIONED!!!
You don't fit in.
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 1:41:09 PM No.24500225
>>24500220
go back, nigger.
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 1:42:51 PM No.24500229
>>24500225
You are the one who came from there, tourist. Only tourists bring up reddit fucking unprovoked. (You) need to go back, nigger.
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 1:44:24 PM No.24500235
>>24500229
cool story faggot. you can go back now.
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 1:45:24 PM No.24500237
>>24500235
Suck my cock, tranny niggerfaggot.
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 1:46:11 PM No.24500239
>>24500152 (OP)
Busy raping and pillaging.
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 1:49:18 PM No.24500243
>>24500239
this is the truth but spastics like >>24500237 want to pretend everyone everywhere was always civilized since the beginning of time.
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 1:59:02 PM No.24500262
>That's all they did for 130 years dude! Rape and pillage! They did literally nothing else, ever!
I'm conversing with teenagers with the intellectual capacity of your average toddler here.
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 2:01:54 PM No.24500269
Kurgan,_Khakassia
Kurgan,_Khakassia
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No one has been able to name a single work by this culture insofar (primary source)
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 2:15:37 PM No.24500287
>>24500262
we're talking about actual great works of literature here, not some Mongolian administrator who dabbled in Persian mathematics and Chinese poetry while wondering what the tea was like in India.
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 2:22:05 PM No.24500299
Literally just google it retard
Significant works and writings in Mongol language from this period include:

The Stele of Yisüngge (~1225–70).[5]
The Secret History of the Mongols (1228).[6]
A decree of Ögedei Khan (1240).
Parchment writings of the Golden Horde [ru] (1240s).
Text of Güyük Khan's Seal marked on a letter to the Pope (1246).[7]
The stele of Möngke Khan (1257).[8][9]
Franco-Mongol letters from Arghun to Philip IV of France (1289) and Pope Nicholas IV (1290) and from Oljaitu to Philip IV (1305)
The Praise of Mahakala (1305).
A commentary on the Bodhicaryavatara by Choiji-Odser (1312).[10]
The Banzragch sutra (early 14th century), Subashid sutra (1290s).
Poem of Muhammad al-Samarqandi (1290s).[11]
Alexander Romance (13th to early 14th century).
Achlalt Nom or Classic of Filial Piety (1307).[12]
New Testament and Psalms translated by Giovanni da Montecorvino (1310s, now lost).
The Golden Light Sutra in Mongolian (1330s).[13]
A book on sacrifice to the Big Dipper (1330s).
Buddhist dedicatory inscription at Tsavchaal Boomt (1345).
The edicts of the Yuan Emperors from Kublai Khan to Toghontemur (1279–1368).[14][15]
Stone inscriptions at Karakorum (early 14th century).
Writings unearthed at Turfan (early 14th century).
Square script inscriptions (1279–1368).
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 2:28:21 PM No.24500311
>>24500152 (OP)
"Muh rape and pillage" is a meme, but the Mongol Empire did not need to be le pillaging rape horde in order to still be absolutely non-conductive to a literary tradition. From what we know, the Empire and it's successors did establish pretty advanced and developed courts, but they had an insane military and administrative leaning, while also experiencing substantial educated manpower shortage in those courts.

There simply wasn't enough legit Mongolian Mongolians around to take even the new military and bureaucratic positions, much less create a surplus of aristocrats for some third and fourth sons to seek immortality through letters. The cutthroat, mobile and unstable nature of the courts at the time did not help - and unlike the rate and pillage, those factors are hard to exaggerate. If you were a young Mongolian aristocrat at the time of the Empire's peak, you were really busy trying to kill your older brother and not getting killed by your younger brother, instead of reading Avicenna and shit. What languages you knew you'd pursue for functionality and quantity, as through a decade you are liable to be assigned to a dozen different localities and peoples by Khan, so that you never build up a personal power base to challenge his rule, and consequentially you never develop a deeper understanding of any of those cultures.

The courts might have developed into stable and decadent enough entities to permit a flourishing written tradition in a few centuries, at least in the successor states that did not collapse like the Golden Horde, but the same shortage of officials (and simple pragmatic factors) lead to wide inclusion of local authorities, many of which already had their own written traditions, so what Mongol shit could develop instead was just subsumed by local, preexisting cultures.
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 2:39:00 PM No.24500323
>>24500311
Is... is that... a sane, nuanced, intelligent response that is relevant to the thread topic!? Holy fucking SHIT!!!
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 2:40:58 PM No.24500329
>>24500323
It's far more than what you deserve. a thread died for this shit.
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 3:03:50 PM No.24500368
>>24500329
Cuck
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 3:06:42 PM No.24500376
>>24500152 (OP)
>too busy with animal husbandry and warfare to develop literature
That's not how history works, that's mismanaging a tech tree in an historical strategy game.
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 3:11:24 PM No.24500388
>>24500191
>>24500197
I love how the core premise of this entire mental breakdown and railing against an imaginary redditor starts with you genuinely thinking that an entire culture cannot be both viscious and intelligent enough to sustain its invasions of other nations.
>so like we built a whole empire on being retards and shit
You're on the wavelength of someone who thinks their food comes from the store.
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 3:17:15 PM No.24500398
Why does the based Mongol Empire make beanpole whitey book nerd eurocentric cucks seethe so much?
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 4:09:35 PM No.24500510
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What answer does anyone want that’s different? Look, I’ll give you a more complex one: consider culture.

Culture is a technology that people build, a sort of biome in which people can survive in a given environment. Why did literature only develop in high-IQ civilizations? Because culture, like all other technologies, are developed downstream from IQ, so the higher the population IQ, the more advanced the culture will arise from them. Furthermore, high-IQ cultures will select for higher-IQ populations in a sort of bio-feedback effect. That’s why even though a low-IQ can learn to read, those low-IQ native coutures never develop reading and writing as a native feature.
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 4:10:50 PM No.24500515
>>24500510
Dumbest post ITT tbqh
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 4:12:58 PM No.24500520
>>24500510
>deterministic bullshit
fuck off american
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 4:15:45 PM No.24500526
>>24500152 (OP)
The mongols were bunch of barbarians who were only good in invasion. They didn't actually administer the whole asia according to your picrel but successfully invaded ,looted and ,raped them and went back to their region after they were satisfied. Their conquest was only successfully cuz their neighbours were weak and lacked intelligence in defence and warfare. Mongols wouldn't even stand a chance against a minor kingdom in westphalia.
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 4:15:57 PM No.24500529
I bet none of you niggers can shoot a target with a bow full gallop from horseback. Maybe back off a bit from thinking that you're in any manner whatsoever, better than a Mongol warrior.
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 4:16:57 PM No.24500534
>>24500526
Bullshit. Read a book elementary school nigger.
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 4:33:16 PM No.24500567
>>24500529
You're on /lit/ ricecel. Maybe this shir would sound like an own on /k/, try going there. Or you can go back to /pol/ or /int/ and post interracial porn
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 4:38:06 PM No.24500581
>>24500311
>non-conductive
it's conducive
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 4:40:33 PM No.24500594
>>24500567
>You're interested in Asian cultures!? Okay, CHANG
LMAO, I knew that was what this was all about. Butthurt Euroboo FAGGOT can't stand talking about anything further East than fucking Bulgaria.

What an absolute boring little BITCH you are.
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 4:43:16 PM No.24500604
>>24500594
Go to /his/ then. Mongols have no culture and therefore no literary traditio , so they have no business being discussed in here
Make a thread about dream of red chamber if you want to discuss chink slop maybe
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 4:45:57 PM No.24500610
>>24500604
>Mongols have no culture
I know you think you're trolling. The fact of the matter is however; you're actually just aggressively retarded.
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 4:49:47 PM No.24500628
Why do so many anonymous bitches get absolutely, utterly BTFO and feel the need to derail a thread on this board every single time that the subject is about the East? I can't even discuss fucking Daoism here without some autistic anonymous retard having a full-on, day-long mental meltdown because of it.

Sincerely; what the fuck is WRONG with (You)?
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 4:52:47 PM No.24500636
>>24500610
Literally nothing has been left behind of their empire. No landmark, no poems, no infrastructure, no monument, no nothing
Just an eternal scar on the souls of those who had been weak and unlucky enough to be subjected to them, so much so that pretty much the entire Asian continent is composed of brutish submissive retards eager to fall in line whenever they're bossed around by those above them and eager to abuse those below them
That's the legacy of the mighty mongol empire. A continent of spiritual slaves
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 4:53:17 PM No.24500638
looks like we have a pot calling the kettle black: >>24500628
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 4:55:00 PM No.24500641
>>24500636
Thoroughly disingenuous post. I can smell your baseless fucking contempt you goose-necked little fucking NERD.
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 4:56:00 PM No.24500643
They weren’t a proper civilization let alone an empire. They were a barbarian horde that was highly successful at conquering empty space.
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 4:56:52 PM No.24500647
>>24500643
>I don't know what I'm talking about!
We know.
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 4:57:43 PM No.24500651
>>24500641
Correct. I have nothing but contempt for the Asian continent aside for anime
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 4:58:43 PM No.24500652
>>24500651
>aside for anime
Just say you're a hypocrite next time lil' bro.
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 5:00:45 PM No.24500655
>>24500652
How so? If anything I am brutally coherent in recognising as worthy only what I like and find interesting
But isn't it about you post the great works of Mongolian literature to shut us all up? The thread has been going for a while after all with you only posting seethe and no books
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 5:03:13 PM No.24500664
>>24500655
Dipshit
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 5:05:57 PM No.24500675
>>24500664
Yeah pretty much what I expected
At least it won't take long for you to study Mongolian culture and move on to the next fad, since there is nothing there to possibly study aside for a list of atrocities
Playing a bit of age of empires should be all it will take
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 5:06:44 PM No.24500677
>>24500655
You've spent this entire thread doing nothing but trying to derail it. I know I'm only talking to ONE nigger and it's (You)

Why? Why are you this aggressively gay at the drop of the hat? Just because you're an /a/utist? Who can say for certain?

The world may never know why (You) are such a fucking faggot.
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 5:07:51 PM No.24500684
>>24500675
>Muh atrocities!
LMAO, you are SUCH a fucking FAGGOT.
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 5:13:29 PM No.24500699
>>24500677
Don't be too dismissive autism-kun. At least someone is talking to you and bumping your shirty thread that would have otherwise have plummeted to page ten with no post considering that there is absolutely nothing to talk about when it comes to mongols. Ever wondered why mongoloid is an insult used to describe mentally impaired people?
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 5:17:12 PM No.24500716
>>24500699
>Mongoloid
You certainly fit the bill.
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 5:21:03 PM No.24500725
>>24500716
Idk anon. I am literate at the very least, contrary to the entirety of the Mongolian civilisation. Or at least you'd be lead to think that is the case, looking at the body of work of great lit they left behind
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 5:25:07 PM No.24500731
>24500725
(You)
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 5:37:20 PM No.24500747
tfw from kazakhstan
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 5:38:47 PM No.24500751
>>24500725
>I am literate
>civilisation
lol, lmao.
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 5:39:47 PM No.24500754
>>24500725
>I'm literate
>You'd be lead
LMFAOOOOO
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 5:47:09 PM No.24500770
Mongols have nothing to offer intellectually