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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 2:30:08 PM No.24500312
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Books on why eastern europe has always been an undeveloped backwater shithole compared to western europe?
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 2:40:17 PM No.24500324
Read anything about the Cold War/Soviet Union
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 2:47:39 PM No.24500341
>>24500312 (OP)
the north atlantic oceanic climate only reaches to the middle of Poland
population density has historically always dropped off from there
it's quite simple
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 2:52:13 PM No.24500346
>>24500341
Further reading list please.
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 2:53:13 PM No.24500348
>>24500324
Wasn't it like that before the Soviet Union
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 2:54:20 PM No.24500352
>>24500341
Then explain the success of Sweden and Finland
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 3:04:50 PM No.24500370
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>>24500312 (OP)
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 3:37:56 PM No.24500437
>>24500312 (OP)
Now post it per capita you shiteating moron
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 3:38:52 PM No.24500438
well 70 years of communism didn't help
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 3:39:55 PM No.24500441
>>24500437
it literally says "per capita" on the map dude, cognitively impaired much?
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 4:10:12 PM No.24500513
>>24500441
Not like whore German mother raised for Nazi father money and eternally choke on BBC you shithead
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 4:39:19 PM No.24500590
>>24500513
>assblasted slav
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 4:42:32 PM No.24500602
>>24500438
Wasnt it like that before commieism
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 4:45:24 PM No.24500608
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>>24500312 (OP)
ireland has to be a lie
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 4:45:52 PM No.24500609
>>24500324
>always
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 4:54:32 PM No.24500640
>>24500608
Ireland's GDP figures are way inflated by the amount of off-shoring and multinationals based there. There are several unique metrics designed for Ireland specifically to account for this. It is an exceptionally wealthy country, but nowhere near as wealthy as its GDP figures would suggest.
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 4:55:12 PM No.24500642
>>24500608
It's because it's a tax haven
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 4:57:17 PM No.24500648
The same answer for literally every question: Decline of the West
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 5:00:15 PM No.24500654
>>24500648
Do you use that answer to the question "Why am I a sexless incel?" too?
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 5:00:59 PM No.24500657
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This book does a good job in explaining cultural differences between Western Europe and the East (Eastern Europe, China, Russia), though that’s only a small portion of the book’s project. It’s gigantic and exhaustive. Here’s an excerpt on this specific topic:

“In the West, the Roman Empire disappeared in 476; and, although many efforts were made to revive it, there was clearly a period, about 900, when there was no empire, no state, and no public authority in the West. The state disappeared, yet society continued. So also, religious and economic life continued. This clearly showed that the state and society were not the same thing, that society was the basic entity, and that the state was a crowning, but not essential, cap to the social structure. This experience had revolutionary effects. It was discovered that man can live without a state; this became the basis of Western liberalism…

…In Rome, in Byzantium, and in Russia, law was regarded as an enactment of supreme power. In the West, when no supreme power existed, it was discovered that the law still existed as the body of rules which govern social life. Thus law was found by observation in the West, not enacted by autocracy as in the East.”

He elaborates on this argument to help explain economic and social differences between the two. It’s a fascinating read even if you don’t agree with it.
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 5:03:35 PM No.24500665
>>24500657
Interesting. I thought this book was for conspiratards who believe in lizard people.
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 5:04:15 PM No.24500668
>>24500438
Eastern Europe still being to a large extent a feudal society helped communism thoever, and that again goes back to a re-feudalization starting at the end of the middle ages
But yeah, it did not help, especially the Russian mindset is still today defined through this
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 5:10:24 PM No.24500690
>>24500665
Quigley is, afaik, a pretty well-respected historian. He does make the claim later in the book that bankers push cultural values post-globalization, and I’m sure some conspiratards have theories as to who these specific people. He taught Clinton at Georgetown and, for better or for worse, had a sizable influence on him
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 5:11:53 PM No.24500695
>>24500690
Yeah not saying anything, I just heard conspiracy people mention him so I made a false assumption about the book
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 5:16:39 PM No.24500713
>>24500370
>"Crucial"
Dropped
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 5:23:29 PM No.24500728
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>>24500348
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 5:28:44 PM No.24500735
>>24500665
>Saying jews have economic influence is literally saying lizard people exist, goy!
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 6:13:03 PM No.24500833
>>24500735
The conspiracy people I'm talking about are the LaRouche/Alex Jones/etc type who talk about the Anglo-American elites, Royal Society, Fabian socialists, depopulationists, Georgia Guidestone followers etc as the villains. It's quite distinct and often opposed to the antisemitic conspiracy theory.
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 6:20:20 PM No.24500860
>>24500728
Fuck. I wish I weren't Polish. This is suicide fuel.
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 6:22:13 PM No.24500866
>>24500728
>Nordics always winning
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 7:35:44 PM No.24501058
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>>24500312 (OP)
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 7:43:47 PM No.24501079
>>24501058
Then explain Sweden, Finland, Norway
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 7:51:00 PM No.24501096
>>24501058
>>24501079
Also explain the balkans
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 7:57:46 PM No.24501112
Communism
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 9:37:30 PM No.24501348
>>24501079
only recently developed and each has a population of a big city
vikings were literally durka-durka which ruined everything they had chance to access
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 9:38:48 PM No.24501352
Breaking up Austria-Hungary was a mistake.
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 9:40:01 PM No.24501353
I blame the Turks and the Russians. Without these backwards autocratic orcs holding us back we'd have developed better.
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 9:40:29 PM No.24501355
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>>24501096
>Also explain the balkans
vinca culture is the oldest currently known writings
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 9:44:48 PM No.24501364
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>>24500728
>>24500312 (OP)
>>24500438

Lol
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 9:46:36 PM No.24501370
>>24500728
So basically World War 2 REALLY happened because Hitler was too powerful and had to be nerfed.
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 3:42:30 AM No.24502084
>>24500728
>the USSR was founded in 1938
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 5:29:36 AM No.24502257
landlocked
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 5:56:35 AM No.24502301
>>24502084
pre WW2 eastern europe wasn't nor communist nor under soviet control
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 6:55:54 AM No.24502432
western europe colonised more and had more access to resources