Thread 24502624

Did you thank the protestants for capitalism?

>>24502624 (OP)
No
If there was only 1 land claim and no people in the new world capitalism would be arbitrarily handicapping a country. the mercantile class was chartered to do what they did, and the results were mixed.
BuT WhAt dOeS tHat hAve to do with state formation?

>>24502624 (OP)
The bourgeoisie created protestantism, not the other way around. Read The Peasant War in Germany.

>>24502624 (OP)
Max Weber was a tard. Capitalism had more to do with the advancement of business and economics than it did with which branch of Christianity one follows however that is not to say some ethno-religious groups in Europe were more capitalistic and enterprising than others and this difference was reflected in how they interpreted the Bible and world around them.

furthermore, when Weber speaks of Protestantism he is actually speaking about a specific subset of it namely hardline Calvinism (Huguenots, Presbyterians, and Puritans).

>>24502624 (OP)
Yes

Weber was a hack whose retarded idea was disproved by based macfarlane
Peasants vs. capitalistic farmers:
- The peasant "owner" cannot legally sell family land without permission of children
- A peasant must divide land equally between children; there is no real last will and testament
- Peasants marry young, have children young, and use the children for farm work
- Multiple generations live in the same household
- Poor subsistence farmers

Capitalistic farmers:
- A living man has no heirs and can buy and sell land freely
- An Englishman was free to give his children as much or as little as he wanted, meaning they were at risk of being disinherited if they disappointed him, but land must never be divided; it has to go to only one heir
- Englishmen married late and hired labor instead of using their own children for work; this led to a cash economy
- The nuclear family was the norm as far back as records go
- Rich market traders

tl;dr:
> The English have never been peasants as far as records can reliably show, going back as far as ~1250, according to "The Origins of English Individualism"

>>24502624 (OP)
>Protestants: You should do your job well and do everything in your life for the glory of God.
>Catholics: UGH you can't say that, you have to be lazy and lay around posting on anime forums, just NO, this has caused CAPITALISM, you cannot WORK and get any kind of money out of it STOP

>>24502624 (OP)
I'm not a Protestant but you've got to give the Protty's credit for being the only nations of any consequence in WW2. Something about Catholicism makes nations flabby and weak.

>>24502624 (OP)
no, but i blamed the jews for neoliberalism

>>24503320
also unlike catholics with all their gaudy bullshit, protestants who were gettin money would just reinvest it rather than buy a bunch of gucci and a ferrari

>>24503567
Catholics
>You can't make money at your job!
>*Bows down to gold and jewel encrusted Mary statue and prays*

>>24503574
btw is there like an apocrypha added to the catholic bible that says u have to put grease in your hair? from italy to the philippines it really is a pattern with them

>>24503186
Brown fingers typed this

>>24503635
>Brown fingers typed this
Cope
The english were individualist capitalists all the way into the 1200s you coping esl retard

>>24503674
Not ESL and not brown, try again.

>>24502624 (OP)
Challenge yourself to wake up every morning and thank The protestants for giving you the mind to work. Challenge yourself to tithe 50% or more of your ibcome to your local protestant church. Challenge yourself to have 100% a mind on God throughout your work day. Challenge your all selves to fall in Love With God at work, and you will never work another day in your life.

>>24502624 (OP)
>ravaged by Braudel
>ravaged by Rothbard
>etc
Has a thesis ever been so thoroughly btfo yet remains regularly mentioned as established fact by non-specialists? It can be mentioned in passing in history of sociology.

>>24503887
It's false but it's useful for Catholic internet apologists so they'll repeat it forever.

>>24503892
The two authors cited above (and others) are certainly not viewing Weber's false thesis as anti-protestant (for instance Rothbard who is ancap and much more cogently traces the labor theory of value as the direct secularization of the scions of Calvin).

>>24503911
Internet Catholics view it as a proof that Protestantism is incorrect.