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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 8:20:19 PM No.24504014
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Is there a good philosophy book on fear? I really enjoyed Kierkegaard's Sickness unto Death, I'm looking for something similar on specifically fear just a dialectical journey through it, that will maybe offer some relief. I've asked before and didn't get any good responses so I'm trying again.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 3:04:25 AM No.24504794
>>24504014 (OP)
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 4:56:42 AM No.24505096
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 4:59:34 AM No.24505104
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Yes Dune
>I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain
After reading the first Dune book my paranoid obsession with rabies and teleportation stopped and I was able to live without constant fear
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 3:52:57 PM No.24506038
>>24504014 (OP)
>philosophy book
>fear
>Kierkegaard
Just wait till you find out what else hes written
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 4:00:14 PM No.24506051
>>24504014 (OP)
Fear is all about the what-if. What if this what if that, so what you have to do is suspend that what-if somehow. Maybe Buddhist stuff would help? Unironically that image of Chuddha aswering ''It won't'' flashes in my mind whenever I'm starting to become fearful. In fantasies you're powerless because you determine the parameters of said fantasies to torture yourself.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 4:07:03 PM No.24506065
>>24506051
But yeah the advice that people always give that you should just ''confront your fears'' doesn't really work, especially when your fears are of the more conceptual sort. They're specters haunting you, because underneath them is something real. I'm deadly afraid of insanity for example, that powerlessness kills me and the thought of it tortures me whenever it flashes across my life. I can't ''confront'' this, I'm aware it's a specter it's just a what-if that I make up to hurt myself to make myself feel bad. I know it's unreal I'm aware of it but the what-if is always constructed in such a way as to continue to hurt me, it's become instinct only the pain remains after I've already gone through it.

If you've read Kierkegaard he says the only way to get over fear is by fearing something greater, which intuitively seems correct to me. Maybe look into that more.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 4:10:13 PM No.24506075
>>24506065
Don't know how long these forum posts last but I'm currently writing a short story on something similar to this, so if the post is still up by the time I finish it I'll send it through
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 6:04:06 PM No.24506296
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>>24504014 (OP)
Sorry for not suggesting a philosophical book but: The manga "Dragon head"
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:10:38 PM No.24506594
>>24505096
This was recommended last time I asked. I'll check it out thanks.

>>24505104
Dune might be interesting, I've of course heard of that passage but I need a way through truly hammering it in for some relief I guess. I'm not one for sci-fi but I've been enjoying Gene Wolfe recently so I might try Dune.

>>24506051
Thank you I think you hit on something nice. I don't really know what to say but I can absolutely relate.

>>24506296
Thanks! I'll check it out. I'm fine with other art forms too.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:46:29 PM No.24507037
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 12:49:50 AM No.24507192
de montaigne "on fear" essay (it's 4 pages long)
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 1:08:03 AM No.24507233
>>24504014 (OP)
books won't help what you need is: confidence. you can't solve the issue inside the hole you're in if you havent been able to do so until now. you gotta get out of the hole first.
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 3:50:44 PM No.24508535
I'm bumping again
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 7:14:14 PM No.24509054
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 7:15:37 PM No.24509057
>>24504014 (OP)
The ancient Aryan Bhagavad Gita is about a chariot driver convincing the warrior he drives to have no fear for the coming battle they’re staring down. The elimination of fear by teachings of the immortal soul is a fairly central part of it.

Not what you’re looking for, but the Germanic cosmic cycle is also centred around the death and rebirth of the deity Baldr, meaning boldness, or fearlessness, from whom the wisest peace-bringing judgement of the world is said to derive. This is described in Gylfaginning and the poem Voluspa. The Volsung Saga also discusses the death and rebirth of a family tradition of fearlessness, in a way that reflects the cosmic cycle on earth, which thereby acts as a bridge to make the myths of the gods more relatable to the lives of man. Scholars like Dumezil connect characters like Baldr to the same poem the Bhagavad Gita is from, which is a more philosophical text like what you’re looking for.
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 9:17:07 PM No.24509378
>>24509057
>Volsung Saga
Any good translations? I do speak German but I've been in the US for almost a decade now so reading feels awkward.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 3:35:31 AM No.24510323
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>>24509378
http://vsnrweb-publications.org.uk/Volsunga%20saga.pdf

I read this one by R. G. Finch, I thought it was pretty good. Just read it online. I gave a few other translations of this book a try afterwards (to see if I could find a version to physically own) and they were all just awful. A decent translation can definetly make or break the quality of a book yea rip, its too bad the genre hasnt historically recieved as much attention as the Greek or Roman stuff.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 3:41:19 AM No.24510335
>>24505104
Theres a decent chance the Volsung Saga inspired this scene. There is a witch who has her sons stick their hand in a bag of flour, inside which is a serpent, in order to test their fearlessness and ability to battle serpents. The way she kills off her first two sons this way (when they reach the right age for it) is also similar to how the witches of Dune practiced eugenics to breed a god savior. Instead though the Volsung witch breeds serpent slaying god incarnate.
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 6:39:28 PM No.24511803
>>24510323
Thank you!
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 8:08:09 PM No.24512083
>>24510323
Is this what wagners ring was based on?
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 3:05:43 AM No.24513089
>>24512083
Not really, moreso the nibelungenlied and the eddas
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 4:36:23 AM No.24513245
>>24504014 (OP)
what's the image from?
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 6:59:17 AM No.24513456
>>24504014 (OP)
Literally Fear and Trembling.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 8:27:17 AM No.24513612
>>24512083
It’s the Icelandic version of the Nibelungenlied. Same story about a dragon slayer, still takes place in Germany even, however it maintained more of the pre-Christian elements than the German version, particularly the role of the gods and the Volsung lineage’s mythic prehistory. It’s not in the form of an epic poem like the Nibelungenlied is, but the poetic Edda has fragments of an epic version of it.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 4:10:54 PM No.24514332
>>24504014 (OP)
Fear and Trembling
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 7:40:10 PM No.24514828
>>24513456
>>24514332
Not what I'm looking for
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 8:17:31 PM No.24514884
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>>24513245
1971's Death in Venice, Visconti's adaption of Mann's novella of the same name
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 1:09:32 AM No.24515745
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:50:37 AM No.24516008
I really enjoyed Any Kerns Tonight? by Francis Kecev