If the translation is good (might not be, because the book uses insanely idiosyncratic language), this shit will be one of the biggest events in sci fi literature ever. I don't know if you're ready. Drops in january next year

>idiosyncratic language
Not really a problem for translation, common everyday idiomatic language in all of its banality is far more difficult.

>>24504413 (OP)
Sounds cool but cool concepts are a dime a dozen in English scifi, there's literally thousands of novels, not sure if you were aware

>>24504765
>there's literally thousands of novels
i don't know if you can find even 5 like this one

>>24504413 (OP)
wait this is actually happening for real lol? they've been talking about a translation for 10+ years at least. how are they dealing with the language shit?

>>24504445
it has a bunch of stylization that's highly language-specific, like mixing polish and russian, which is natural because the languages are already related and have mixed historically. i don't know how you'd russify english and not end up with something totally wacky and fake like clockwork orange. also for a huge chunk of the book the protagonist decides he "doesn't really exist" and proceeds to write in a kind of depersonalized style where "a door is opened" instead of "i opened a door," which works because slavic languages already abound in that kind of "passive" grammar but i don't know how you'd render that in english without it being extremely annoying.

i'm worried they'll just drop the stylistic stuff altogether.

>— Łowi was, widziałem — chrypiał istniejący-nieistniejący von Azenhoff przez szalik i mróz. — Kto tylko jest gotów odciąć kotwicę ciała, khr, wyrzec się grzechów cielesnych.
>— Do samobójstwa?
>— Nie! Samobójstwo grzech! To człowiek od Seliwanowa, od chłystów i skopców zeszłowiecznych. Khr. Pod Lodem wróciła im ta pewność wiary, znowu rzezają.
>— Pobiedonoscew —
>— Jego — kto tam wie. Ale Ziel, khr, khr — niby dlaczego Aniołem go zwą? — Prusak pociągnął dłonią w rękawicy wte i wewte przez obłok pary ćmietlistej, rach-ciach, jak nożem. — Askaplienije uczyniło zeń anioła!
>— Mówi pan, khr, eunuch?
>— Wybielony! Otrzebieniec pod carską pieczęcią. — Rach-ciach, machnął znowu. — Jajca i kutas, wsjo. Kobietom piersi też palą, do kości.
>— Pan myślał — się zachłysnęło się mrozem — że ja bym się zgodził, żeby mi —
>— Ba! Sam to sobie zrobił.
>— Khr!
>— Toteż właśnie — trzeba mi was odtruć, zanim tak zamarzniecie. — Von Azenhoff wyłonił się z kolejnego zamroku z grymasem ironicznym, kąśliwym. — Mój dobry uczynek na ten miesiąc!
>Huzar wybuchnął basowym śmiechem.

how are they going to translate this without offending trannies?

>>24504413 (OP)
qrd?

>>24506140
very dense alt-history brick of a novel in which the tunguska meteorite brought extraterrestrial frost lifeforms that caused history itself to freeze so that ww1 and the russian revolution never occurred. story is set in alt-1920s and it's about a mildly schizo loser travelling across the russian empire to find his father that reportedly communicates with the frost lifeforms. elaborate political intrigue occurs. text is full of cool stylistic devices that won't survive translation and historical detail a western audience will find incomprehensible and uninteresting. about seven hipsters will read it and claim to really like it. one of them will say he's going to learn polish to read the original but nothing will come of it in the end.

>>24506140
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_(Dukaj_novel)

>>24506125
>—
Fuck Joyce and his imitators. Fart-huffed horseshit.

>>24506882
that's pretty standard lol

>>24504413 (OP)
https://www.bloomsbury.com/au/ice-9781786697271/
or even nov this year in some places

>>24504445
>Not really a problem for translation
many polish readers got filtered by this, mate. English translation was announced in 2017 and they said they would finish it in 4 years lol

>>24505885
I know you can't, that was my point

>>24507115
you have no idea what you're talking about

>>24506882
that has nothing to do with joyce, dummy, it's standard dialogue formatting for many languages and it's what joyce was imitating, not the other way around

>>24506184
sounds interesting, that's all I can say.

>>24506902
i want them to actually provide an excerpt so i can know how much they fucked it up.
>From this Ground Zero, emerge the Gleissen, silent harbingers of an eternal winter
gleissen? lol, they're going with german loanwords for a book set in imperial russia?

if this gets him some international recognition, will this lazy faggot get back to actually writing? he hasn't released anything substantial in like 15 years and as far as i can tell his primary occupation is ideaguying videogames that won't get made

>>24506882
It’s standard dialogue formatting from lots of European fiction to sometimes others like Russian and Latin American fiction, silly. People already told you this but I just wanted to jump in on the dogpile.

>>24504413 (OP)
>Translated to russian
Worth reading? Never heard of him, but alt-history looks interesting

>>24507273
can't comment on the russian translation but the book itself is excellent. very dense and slowly paced though. you should also consider pic related, which is available in russian, and is a really nutty book that's more like "alt-physics" where ancient greek conceptions of physics are literally true

>>24507340
Ohh, thx, I'll give it a try

>>24506184
if the translation is less than 210 pages i'll pirate it or buy a used copy & give it a shot
my reviews have kick started many careers and this actually has enough intelligence to it to appeal to me on some small level

>>24507371
>brick of a novel
>if the translation is less than 210 pages
lmao do you not know what a brick looks like? add a 1 to the front there

>>24507340
Inne Piesni? What does the title mean?

>>24507415
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Other_Songs_(novel)

>>24507242
polish george r r martin, except he's thin and will probably live a long life

>>24508171
at least he has cooler excuses than george. he released the first volume of a trilogy in 2004 and then said he can't start volume two until certain problems in physics are solved and never mentioned it again

>>24508207
http://ziutasiedziwi.blogspot.com/2018/03/nowy-dukaj.html

lol

>>24508481
i kind of want to learn polish just to fuck with ppl at work cuz like some of these dei administrator type people always put a bunch of untranslated spanish crap in their email signature, i want to put some polish just to fuck with them, or open my group emails with a polish greeting, since i am polish american, buuut idk maybe i'll just use latin

>>24508481
it's even sadder when you look at what he's been doing since that article was written, which is just a string of vaporware video game projects. he has just quietly left the videogame studio he started in 2022 "to make games based on his writing," which as far as i can tell never did anything or had any staff other than himself and another writer, and immediately opened a second studio with the same premise. at the same time he's trying to be an ai business guru or something. sad times. just write a good novel again you dumbass

>>24508869
i remember couple of years ago there was a book announced, it even appeared on publisher's website "Coming soon" and stuff like that and it was definitely Ice tier brick but then of course nothing came out of it. Guy's gone imo

>>24507242
>thinning and proud
>writes novel after brilliant novel
>gets a gay combover
>all creative output stops forever

papal bump

>>24508171
George is thin(er) now. Magic of Ozempic. so idk why people keep insisting he is a lardass

>>24511501
really? Then he might finally finish the books

>>24511865
lol no that's a brain problem not a fat ass problem