Thread 24504847 - /lit/ [Archived: 654 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/29/2025, 3:28:53 AM No.24504847
coffee writer
coffee writer
md5: ef8843c8052ae2199ab274493ffb67a1๐Ÿ”
Watching videos of people who quit their jobs to become full-time writers
Like this chick who quit a good paying job with things like health insurance and 401k's
The first thing she does as a writer is buy an $8 cup of coffee from Starbucks
She plans on making money off of her books but if she has to, will find a part-time job

*spoiler alert*
8/9 months later, no published book, no finished book, no job
Replies: >>24504852 >>24504872 >>24505168 >>24505180 >>24505314 >>24505442 >>24505537 >>24505642 >>24505798 >>24506943 >>24507013 >>24507915 >>24508249
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 3:30:33 AM No.24504852
>>24504847 (OP)
whose cum is she drinking then
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 3:31:03 AM No.24504853
don't follow women,
don't pay attention to women
Replies: >>24508360
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 3:36:45 AM No.24504871
thats fucking retarded. you know bukoswski worked in a fucking post office most of his life.

most poets also have a day job, poetry dont pay the bills son
Replies: >>24504878 >>24508399
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 3:38:54 AM No.24504872
>>24504847 (OP)
I shared by book and got fired. Does that count?
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 3:41:13 AM No.24504878
>>24504871
most poets and a lot of visual artists are academics. some might not admit it on their websites, but they are def picking up adjunct gigs at schools around the metro area to pay the bills, if not straight up profs.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 4:28:22 AM No.24504999
what's harder? writing a book, or actually getting it published and read. (not amazon self publishing, a real publisher)
Replies: >>24505075 >>24505442
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 4:51:47 AM No.24505075
>>24504999
Getting traditionally published these days seems like winning the lottery.
All so your book can be hidden in a book store, unseen, eventually sold in the bargain bin, and you owe money on your advance.
Replies: >>24508420
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 5:29:02 AM No.24505168
1740281809277827_thumb.jpg
1740281809277827_thumb.jpg
md5: 89a18c5e59920bb0c39ade3f457c14a1๐Ÿ”
>>24504847 (OP)
why can't you just work and write? is it hard to write 250 words a day after work and advance your plot?
Replies: >>24505197 >>24505349 >>24505442 >>24505705 >>24508608
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 5:32:09 AM No.24505173
>le nonchalant all lowercase title
anyone else sick of this?
Replies: >>24505635 >>24508611
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 5:39:57 AM No.24505180
>>24504847 (OP)
>*spoiler alert*
>8/9 months later, no published book, no finished book, no job
if you stop seething about people who are actually chasing their dreams, you will have more energy left over to chase yours.
Replies: >>24505197 >>24505694 >>24508617
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 5:50:12 AM No.24505197
>>24505168
Yes, I think it would be smarter to get at least one book published before quitting your job

>>24505180
Project much, incel?
Who is seething? Lmao
What a fucking idiot
Literally kys and take your idiocy out of the gene pool
Replies: >>24505282
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 6:39:17 AM No.24505282
>>24505197
>"I am not seething!"
>seethes
o-okay...
Replies: >>24505350
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 6:58:41 AM No.24505314
>>24504847 (OP)
I admit I buy groceries from people buying my writings
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 7:08:36 AM No.24505332
trust fund writer
trust fund writer
md5: 980482bc5826fc8056087794a7dfa24e๐Ÿ”
Another one
Since this video, she has moved from this lavish house into what looks like another lavish house she calls "an apartment"
Obvious trust fund baby, so she can get away with quitting her job
Also, her most recent video is "I just read the draft of my first novel, and it is terrible"
At least she's honest
Replies: >>24505342 >>24507989 >>24508380 >>24508400
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 7:14:39 AM No.24505342
1732436814085389
1732436814085389
md5: 644bbcf92d7d34042f6749014860c3f5๐Ÿ”
>>24505332
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 7:21:39 AM No.24505349
>>24505168
If you are writing shitty books, yes it's posible.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 7:23:17 AM No.24505350
>>24505282

yeah lmfao that was an unhinged response by that freak. so many people here are truly hopeless.
Replies: >>24505375
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 7:35:09 AM No.24505375
>>24505350
kys samefag
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:16:29 AM No.24505442
>>24504847 (OP)
It disheartens me to see how so many women want to get books published solely as a means of ego-stroking or to brag about it to people who will never think of them outside of public social events.

>>24504999
>>24505168

Getting traditionally published isn't impossible for the average joe, despite the odds stacked against them. It's just too much to handle and manage for one person without proportional success that most men check out as a result.

>write and write and write
>send it out
>get rejected or never get a response
>repeat
>eventually get accepted
>but it doesn't sell
>keep grinding away
>it sells, but not very much (not enough men are reading, and smartphones/games are competition)

The only way to find monetary success as a traditionally published author is to either be rich and connected or already have an online following that you can sell your books towards.
Replies: >>24508378
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:46:43 AM No.24505492
OP, women have men pay for it idiot.
yukio mishima got a law degree and studied at night
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:07:34 AM No.24505513
Gene Wolfe talked about how much more freedom as a writer he had because he had a day job and could afford to make non-commercial shit that his family didn't need to rely on, maybe prospective writers should keep that in mind
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:25:55 AM No.24505537
Woolston2
Woolston2
md5: c32272ec2e4c8bbace6d779829669cae๐Ÿ”
>>24504847 (OP)
Honestly, i think the only i will ever be able to quit my day job is to get a successful screen adaptation of one of my stories.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 10:48:14 AM No.24505635
>>24505173
for youtube videos? i dont care.
on book covers (kaur)? i fucking hate it. lowercase writing should stay on the internet.
Replies: >>24507983
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 10:53:57 AM No.24505640
who gives a shit you hateful retard? how does it affect your life in any way?

i hope youre this random woman shilling her channel because the alternative is so much more pathetic
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 10:56:52 AM No.24505642
>>24504847 (OP)
>hello fellow goy, quit your job and write gay fanfic
Half of jewtube is demons trying to mislead and corrupt people
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:20:55 AM No.24505667
470918083
470918083
md5: 79b0be3be0cf177e70daaa3bd9e23498๐Ÿ”
I only watch Saoirse

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivYuFQeCByk
Replies: >>24505801 >>24505802
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:47:02 AM No.24505694
>>24505180
This
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:55:38 AM No.24505705
>>24505168
I did this and published my second novel after working part time for two and half years (my first came out when I was still a student). I would not recommend the experience.
Generally speaking the most problematic aspect of work for a writer is that it's mentally invasive: in 2025 work doesn't just mean that you stay 8 hours on a likely shitty workplace and leave, it also means that you're likely reachable at all times through phone and email. Plus, the abuse you're likely to receive on most workplaces is very difficult to isolate mentally: if you do something you hate, with people you hate, you'll go home and think about how much you hate it. It required immense mental strength do to this 25/30 hours a week, for me, and for the short times I worked full time this was virtually impossible.
I worked thinking only about bagging the money and getting the fuck out asap, but it just wasn't possible to isolate myself mentally. The question I received more often the very rare times I complained about being contacted outside of work or being required to do overtime was: "why, do you have something to do?" which is the only sentence that ever managed to bring me on the brink of beating another human being up. Most people assume work is life. To cultivate a life outside of work, not to mention to have another phantom "artistic" career outside of it, is unusual and will isolate you.
Maybe this all boils down to my own mental weakness, but I found that working gradually eroded my ability to imagine stories and situations, and generally to have any psychological life whatsoever because my mental space looks more and more like my workspace. I remember looking at adults at 17 and blaming them for having no mental life whatsoever, and wondering how it was possible for someone to shove so much shit under the rug psychologically speaking, and just let it rot there. Now I think I see more clearly that this is a natural consequence of spending 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, in any workplace. For me the hardest experience of my life besides losing loved ones has been, to this point, to discover that one must give up such a large, significant portion of time to do absolutely useless and meaningless tasks in order to "afford" to exist - and that you'll never get back that times, which could have been spent being alive, being aware, building meaning within your own life. Work, for me, made it difficult to both write and read - or at least harder. As soon as I went back living off unemployement checks everything got better: mental and physical health, capacity to think and imagine things vividly, mood, etc. Being unemployed also comes with its own problems (poor, lonely, social outcast) but it's honestly a much better position to imagine stories, at least for me.
Replies: >>24505719 >>24506276 >>24506953
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 12:11:07 PM No.24505719
>>24505705
I work in a warehouse 3 hours away by public transport.
Not only do I get 6+ hours a day of unregulated wishing I was in a better place, but my actual work is mundane enough that I can employ most of my mental capacity mulling over the paragraphs, lines, and verses of the day between the hours of 8(ish) and 4.
Those many who seem to think the working class lifestyle is dysgenic to writing are obviously lacking in experience -- to say nothing of the quality of such writing.

My life sucks, but oh well...
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 12:57:35 PM No.24505798
>>24504847 (OP)
Women shouldn't be working anyhow so I can get behind this.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 1:00:35 PM No.24505801
>>24505667
sexy
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 1:00:44 PM No.24505802
>>24505667
I forgot how much this sultry bitch loves teasing us. Post more I no longer have Instagram.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 5:57:52 PM No.24506276
>>24505705
>Most people assume work is life
You're american
Replies: >>24506945 >>24507058
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 10:55:23 PM No.24506943
>>24504847 (OP)
This is just setting yourself up for failure.
T.S. Elliot was an accountant.
Haruki Murakami was a bar tender and woke up at 4 AM before opening to write.
Nikolai Gogol worked in the Russian Ministry of Education
Anton Chekhov was a physician
The list goes on...
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 10:56:41 PM No.24506945
>>24506276
I mean, Japanese are the same way, if not worse. Its not exclusively an American thing.
Replies: >>24507310
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:00:13 PM No.24506953
>>24505705
>I'm a bitch!
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:16:21 PM No.24506988
used up and burned out
used up and burned out
md5: 3a8303f748f267c628dbf5096eb263b0๐Ÿ”
This self-described writer says she is "burned out" from writing
This makes no sense to me
We are not the same
That's like saying you're burned out from having orgasms
"You know what? I need to take a break from having orgasms"
Creating is joy
If you feel you are burned out from writing, don't call yourself a writer, and get a job as middle management at Walmart
Replies: >>24507001 >>24507014 >>24508627 >>24509158
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:25:04 PM No.24507001
40 inch monitor
40 inch monitor
md5: 47cc45ca94bb9595b1f515217cdbe452๐Ÿ”
>>24506988
It's possible that writing on a 40 inch monitor made her feel burned out
"Look at me! I'm 'writing' on a 40 inch monitor. I'm a real writer! Please like and subscribe so I can get my 150 views per video."
Also, she hasn't posted in 5 months... a tragedy
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:32:00 PM No.24507013
>>24504847 (OP)
>8/9 months
That is nothing when it comes to writing a novel of any worth, most take at least a few years. Been ~3 years since I quite my job to write, I gave myself 5 years just to finish my first novel in the vague sense of the word "finish" being get it to the point where I can start submitting it. I take on the odd part time job mostly as a way to give myself a break from writing but like the effect it has on my savings account. For the past month I have been washing dishes at a fancy restaurant, getting a free meal and drink that would normally cost ~$50 is nice. Nearly done with this job, old dishwasher took 5 months off to travel about Greece and I will be back to writing full time once he returns.

First thing I did when I quite my job to write full time was go to a bar and buy a $14 scotch, and then blew through nearly $300 on drinks for myself and many others, it was a celebration of my new life and saying goodbye to frivolous spending. I have no regrets, there are things I miss about my old life but I am mostly doing well at staying focused on my new life; starting to get short stories published in journals, made some contacts and have made good progress on my first novel.
Replies: >>24507015
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:32:48 PM No.24507014
>>24506988
To paraphrase David Lynch - suffering is not necessary to produce great art. People talk about Van Gogh suffering, he lived a hard life, couldn't sell anything, slept on the floor, the only time he was happy was when he was painting. If anything his suffering was a hindrance.
Replies: >>24508277
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:33:19 PM No.24507015
>>24507013
>5 months
5 weeks.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:51:39 PM No.24507049
>41 minutes
Holy shit what a waste of time.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:54:32 PM No.24507058
>>24506276
You got owned by that Japanese comment buddy.
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 1:36:31 AM No.24507310
ckd9v15kffl61
ckd9v15kffl61
md5: e28c9ed0db346439cbf015cc515a49a3๐Ÿ”
>>24506945
>the world is only america and japan
out of office until october. emails will be automatically deleted
Replies: >>24508528
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 7:46:19 AM No.24507915
>>24504847 (OP)
does she write the typical romance-fantasy slop?
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 7:54:59 AM No.24507926
>Here is a YouTube video of me, chronicling my journey as a literal who becoming a writer!!! Look! Expensive coffee!!!

She doesn't want to be a writer, she doesn't want to publish a book. No, she wants ATTENTION.
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 8:44:45 AM No.24507983
MagazineBayer
MagazineBayer
md5: 324ec52fdfb2a0b616912d9a6bb3eb85๐Ÿ”
>>24505635
>lowercase writing should stay on the internet.
It's much older than internet. Typesetting titles in lowercase was a bauhaus meme.
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 8:48:31 AM No.24507989
>>24505332
cute. would wife
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 12:35:06 PM No.24508249
>>24504847 (OP)
working a corpo job is soul crushing and people will find any way to leave it, so I don't blame her.
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 12:59:42 PM No.24508277
>>24507014
This. The starved artist image is retarded. Not being able to get a solid sleep, the proper nutrients you need through food, and having your nervous system in tatters will not produce great art.
Artists may pull on their experiences as a down and out but will write about it when they're a bit more comfortable. Knut Hamsun didn't write Hunger as he starved to death in Norway.
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 2:03:43 PM No.24508360
>>24504853
And then die alone.
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 2:17:35 PM No.24508378
IMG_2892
IMG_2892
md5: f775defce9e63f97ce125fdd3b38ca3b๐Ÿ”
>>24505442
>The only way to find monetary success as a traditionally published author is to either be rich and connected or already have an online following that you can sell your books towards.
And when that doesnโ€™t work either?โ€ฆ
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 2:18:30 PM No.24508380
>>24505332
looks like my ex
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 2:30:07 PM No.24508399
>>24504871
bukowski literally quit that postal job to write his first novel and i don't think he ever worked again. you didn't pick a very good example.
Replies: >>24508530
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 2:31:12 PM No.24508400
>>24505332
>I just read the draft of my first novel, and it is terrible"
If you don't think this about your first draft then you are delusional, and no one writes a perfect first draft. Good books are revised and rewritten over thousands of hours.
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 2:45:08 PM No.24508420
>>24505075
>and you owe money on your advance.
this is how i know you're just trying to demoralize people. no, you don't have to pay back an advance that didn't earn out. that's your money no matter what. also book didn't earn out != book wasn't profitable for the publisher, so they might want more books from you even if the old ones didn't earn out.
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 3:47:51 PM No.24508528
>>24507310
What about China?
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 3:49:05 PM No.24508530
>>24508399
FUCK YOU
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 4:29:38 PM No.24508608
>>24505168
If you have an easy job that doesn't engage your brain, it's probably possible. You can literally think about what you're going to write all day, then type it up at night.
But if your job is in any way cerebral, forget it. You'll be burned out by the evening, and just want to rest.
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 4:30:59 PM No.24508611
>>24505173
Said le nonchalant all lowercase poster.
Replies: >>24508634
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 4:32:42 PM No.24508617
>>24505180
Chasing your dreams off a cliff is not an advisable way to spend your life.
Only trust-fund babies who never need to earn a living can think of doing that.
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 4:39:25 PM No.24508627
>>24506988
You talk like somebody who just took up pot-throwing rather than an actual writer.
The greater part of writing is not "creating" but revising, correcting and in some cases deleting what you've written. It's an intense, draining and often chastening effort.
Replies: >>24509219
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 4:44:29 PM No.24508634
>>24508611
You kinda got his ass not gonna lie.
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 7:57:27 PM No.24509158
file
file
md5: 831352a200d50eefefe2e776a994efc6๐Ÿ”
>>24506988
>have a hobby
>make it your job
>burn out
>now no hobby and no job
Pottery
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 8:23:56 PM No.24509219
>>24508627
>You talk like somebody who just took up pot-throwing rather than an actual writer.
>The greater part of writing is not "creating" but revising, correcting and in some cases deleting what you've written. It's an intense, draining and often chastening effort.
Speak for yourself
Yes, I do make revisions and do delete things (why do you act like deleting things is a big deal?) and then I feel the satisfaction of knowing the thing is now better
I get a dopamine hit from creating and a dopamine hit from revising

If your dream is becoming a full-time writer, if writing is your greatest passion in life, then you can never be burned out from it
But some (many) people have the dream of being a writer but lack creativity or understanding or skill, in which case I suppose they would get burned out because they love something but just aren't good at it