>The last part of our time in America was spent at Princeton, where we had a little house on the shores of the lake. While in Princeton, I came to know Einstein fairly well. I used to go to his house once a week to discuss with him and Gödel and Pauli. These discussions were in some ways disappointing, for, although all three of them were Jews and exiles and, in intention, cosmopolitans, I found that they all had a German bias towards metaphysics, and in spite of our utmost endeavours we never arrived at common premises from which to argue. Gödel turned out to be an unadulterated Platonist, and apparently believed that an eternal ‘not’ was laid up in heaven, where virtuous logicians might hope to meet it hereafter.

full blown atheism was cool when the evangelicals were in power. now libtards are the moral police. so believing in a god shocks the bourgeoise

>>24504873
>so believing in a god shocks the bourgeoise
only in the minds of deranged 4chan dwellers

>>24504882
things that shock the libtards

1. right wing politics
2. god
3. sex

right now the only guy who gets this in the art world is kanye

>>24504888
>Kanye let his wife do her weird fetish in public to SHOCK THE LIBTARDS
ok dude.
by the way, it's not the right wing politics are shocking, it's that they're so retarded as to be intolerable. unfortunately this intolerance is indeed used as fuel by grifters to promote neohitlerism, by painting themselves as persecuted, as kanye does in his song, 'nigga heil hitler.'

>>24504901
yes, liberals are the one who want to change the age of consent to like 500 lol.
they are the ones who dont like sex scenes in movies or tv shows.
but right wing is the same, doesnt like sex either.

Épater la bourgeoisie

>>24504873
It sounds as if you just like being contrarian for the sake of it

>>24504901
kanye's heil hitler song + video is great art tho if u actually pay attention to it, like all masterpieces it has contradiction and ambiguities leaving it open to many interpretations and ways to experience it

>>24504869 (OP)
>they all had a German bias towards metaphysics
Based

>>24504917
i like art, what kanye is doing isnt orginal, its been done by the french decedents

except back then drugs and satan were more controversial. now its god and sex

>>24504882
Someday you'll make peace with your parents, God willing.

>>24504932
really some fin-de-siecle french dudes dropped a banger that went harder that hh by kanye? link us up, holmes

>>24504907
To be fair its because a lot of men aren't able to have it. That's why I see no actual issue with rape.

>>24504937
my parents are atheists

>>24504901
I can't wait to see NYC's new commie fascist mayor burn the city to the ground

>>24504951
all he's going to do is screw up the housing market and increase public fentanyl overdoses

>>24504882
No I think when the media and politicians shit their pants over the idea of "Christian Nationalism" you've made it as a genuine threat to the elites

>>24504873
>aww shucks I cant be an atheist anymore because it's not currently in fashion

>>24504957
>threat to the elites
you have room temperature IQ if you think that reactionary identity politics is anything more than a redirection of forces that might actually threaten the elites into meaningless issues like abortion, white birth rates, and deporting brown people (which is meaningless because it will never actually happen, considering that the slave labor of hispanics is essential to the american economy).
the fact that the news media "shits their pants" because of christian nationalism only feeds christian nationalism. if the elites were actually scared of "christian nationalism" they would not give it endless media coverage. the "christian nationalist" strategy is to create an "in group" which has their own inside jokes that only those with special knowledge get (which is the reason the online right is defined entirely by their anti semitic jokes) and which is PERSECUTED by the out group. the persecution is ESSENTIAL to their growth. those who manufacture faux outrage and hence create this image of persecution for them are not actually trying to shut down their "movement," they are feeding it, and all for the sake of their own profit.
you have to understand that the "elites" benefit from there being two sides. to this end, one side has to be the "underdog" and the other the "mainstream."

>>24504873
Anon, you should probably check the news and see who's in the white house rn

>>24504974
>which is meaningless because it will never actually happen
and if you think this is wrong, check Trump's latest remarks. he has already backtracked and said essentially that he won't deport hispanic farm workers, instead he will "make the farmers 'responsible' for them." trump has already folded under the pressure because he or his advisors are at least intelligent enough to realize that actually deporting these people would have massive negative consequences that would throw them out of favor.

>>24504974
So the elites wanted that Christian Nationalist to shoot those politicians in Minnesota?

>>24504986
There are people in the US senate and federal government that call themselves Christian nationalists. Project 2025 was heavily influenced by Christian nationalist thinkers and Trump is openly aligned with them even if he isn't one himself. Christcuck schizos are very much part of 'the elites' no matter how much they want to play victim and pretend to be martyrs.

>>24504996
So then why did the media and DNC spend all 2024 scaring people over Project 2025 if they're just the other side of the same coin that wanted it?

>>24504998
They didn't want it, obviously. And 'the elites' are only partially divided by party lines. Really the elite just means whoever has the most money and power in society and right now, all the power and money is bankrolling rightwingers because they're more willing to enact their vision for the future. If you want your personality to revolve around 'owning the libs' then you're free to do so, but the people you should genuinely be scared of are people like Musk, Peter Thiel, Sam Altman, etc.

>>24504998
it doesn't matter whether project 2025 happens or not. the elites don't care what meme policies the US government enacts regarding meme issues. the democratic party's job is to pain themselves as the only opposition to the republican party. so they oppose the republican party's policies. the republican party's job is to paint themselves as the only opposition to the democratic policy. so they oppose the democratic party's policy. meanwhile the only policies either side pushes are meme bullshit that will do nothing to threaten the elites.

>>24504975
liberals control media and art world. trump himself isnt that relgious and is indictive of the failure of the neocons and evanglical.
religion has been dying since neetche declared god dead.

imagine you are in the art world surrounded by libtards and declare christ is king. people would GASP "he doesnt actually believe that, how childish"

>>24505045
>all the power and money is bankrolling rightwingers
I doubt that, between how much money Kamala raised last year, the amount of money being poured into things like No Kings and ICE out of LA, and the inconceivable amount of groups filing lawsuits to block every part of the President's agenda. I bet Democrats will break fundraising records next year

when libtards go on and on about peter theil im reminded of conservatards who hate soros

>>24505064
They don't control media. Fox News, The Daily Wire and a myriad of other right wing news sources is proof enough they don't. They arguable control the art world but that's because artistically inclined people tend to be left leaning.
>imagine you are in the art world surrounded by libtards and declare christ is king
No one would gasp at that except maybe some retarded activists on twitter. No one cared about Kanye being outwardly Christian. They cared when he went full /pol/tard in public.

>>24505081
Organizations like Fox News Huffington Post are partisan outliers one has to willingly search for. Virtually all mainstream media most people will consume is center-left

>>24505077
libs used to screech about the koch brothers for most of the 2010s but then they went anti-trump and suddenly the screeching stopped

>>24505095
>Virtually all mainstream media most people will consume is center-left
Fox news is the most viewed news platform, greater than most of those combined. also rightoids have a growing monopoly on youtube, twitter, podcasts, etc.

>>24505098
Fox News averages 2.4 million viewers during primetime. The NY Times alone has over 8 million subscribers.

>>24505081
believing in god is just part of the package bra, fascism, god, sex.

Combine these things if you are an art guy


im sorry your boomer parents watch fox news, but no one under the age of 80 does.

>>24504869 (OP)
>Gödel
>Jewish

>>24505105
number of daily viewers is not the same as subscribers to a fucking newspaper dumbass. and even if the new york times were more popular than fox news, which it isn't, that still wouldn't even come close to the right wings dominance of online or "alternative" media.

>>24505111
if bertie says he was jewish, he was jewish.

>>24505120
>and even if the new york times were more popular than fox news, which it isn't,
Immediately stopped there, no point in continuing this conversation. Far more people will read an article from NYT or WP than watch Fox News on a daily basis and to say otherwise is just denial

>>24505123

>>24504869 (OP)
This guy's autobiography is really something else. The best part is when he and his wife(?) try to open some sort of boarding school for children based on their own radical liberal ideas. It ends up with the children trying to murder one another and BR concluding that children are evil.

>>24504869 (OP)
not a real quote

>>24505136
I don't think he concluded that children are evil, he said that the school inadvertently ended up attracted a large number of problem children because of the way it was presented.

>>24505111
Angloids project their judaizing tendencies onto krauts

>>24505137
https://www.rodoni.ch/A14/russell-autobiography.pdf
see for yourself. control f.

>>24505110
Being an artists does not equal being a contrarian. Plus the left loves sex and you're simply wrong if you think they don't.

>>24505136
>>24505140
also, I think his conclusion was to doubt the notion that children should be brought primarily among peer groups of other children the same age... it makes sense if you think about it, why do we think that children should be socialized by each other? they'll just end up behaving like retards because everyone around them is a retard. Russell himself didn't have many friends his age until he went to cambridge.

>>24505146
i didnt say that, i was talking about decedent art, which includes the idea of shocking the bourgisue, which kanye and bauldrie do
the left hate sex, lenin had all the prostitutes in the soviet union killed in a firing squad, terfs hate trannies, libtards cant handle an older man dating a younger woman, i could go on and on. the days of the cool left are over

>>24505152
Yeah I might be misremembering that he thought they were evil. Although I did get the impression that he shifted the blame for the failure onto the children rather than his own worldview.

>>24505157
also this is not to say the right wing doesnt hate sex either, you are shocking to the right and left in 2025 if you like sex. look at sabrina carpenter and her whole deal with the album cover.
the left were hating on her mostly.
but its not like the right was defending her.


america is a very puritanical society that hates sex

bertrand russell is one of the most disgusting, arrogant, repulsive, stubborn, idiotic redditors in the history of the world.

>>24505189
mogged