Thread 24505398

Is there a Catholic Bible that has in depth reference for debating Protestants, Orthodox, Muslims, Jews, Pagans, Atheists, Agnostics, and otherwise non-Catholics?

>>24505398 (OP)
read Ben Klassen.

>>24505516
Why?

>>24505516
Who?

>>24505398 (OP)
Not really. You're going to want to study theology, read The Fathers of the Church, read a couple books on metaphysics and epistemology, and read philosophy. Then you're going to have to explore the ideas presented to you in debate honestly, research, and find truth. A good start is going to be a compilation of The Church Father's commentaries on Scripture and a Study Bible for whatever Christian sect you wish to refute. Even if you're Orthodox, Lutheran, Catholic, whatever, The Ignatius Study Bible is a great resource. There's really not a fast track resource for winning debates with /pol/ Pegans or /his/ Baptists.

>>24507799
So if I were to be a priest, I would be equipped to do this?

>>24505398 (OP)
The Spiritual Combat, Lorenzo Scupoli

>>24508181
QRD?

>>24505398 (OP)
Learn to notice the details. For example, the similarities between Jesus and Superman end only with a) doing extraordinary things, b) sympathy of followers. Superman is an alien who operates a closed catalog of powers that are useful in specific situations. Superman can even be treated as a god, but he is a Greek type god, closed within the framework of his individuality and quite limited. To a large extent, his divinity ends with strength and the ability to use it. Meanwhile, Jesus has no "power", Jesus is a soteriological figure who, instead of individual abilities, continues the actions of God himself, i.e. the process of Creation. One who follows Christ continues Creation. Jesus does not even have to perform miracles to have such a function (which is why he so often gives them up).

Love each other, more important than religion or philosophy. All religions teach love each other.

>>24505516
Where?

>>24510166
Traditional Catholicism affirms that the rights of God trump the rights of man, and God has a right to be worshipped the way he wants to be, namely in the manner expounded by the Catholic Church which His Son our Lord Jesus Christ instituted.

>>24505398 (OP)
Catholicism died with the Enlightenment and Napoleon, there is nothing to debate.

The modern West is entirely based on Protestant ethics on a epistemological level.

because it really isn't fair, and even unjust if i'm reading this right

>>24510279
Wrong.

>>24508279
Methods to grow virtue and not lose it in the face of trial

>>24505398 (OP)
no don't convert to catholism to further your debate me bro hobbies.

>>24512362
I’m not interested in whatever pleasure people seem to have with winning debates. I just want true Christian unity.

>>24512958
i want to be rich but here we are, retard

>>24512976
Can we have a single Christian discussion without name-calling?

>>24505398 (OP)
Just learn all the logical fallacies and use them in your debates, anon. There are also courses online and apologists on YouTube. You won't win debates but you can pretend you did.

>>24505398 (OP)
no

>>24505398 (OP)
Catholicism is a dying religion, why would you want to waste your time arguing about it?

I would never say this in person but I think all scholarship on the gospels proves Muhammad's claim that all these texts were distorted over time.
I do not know what to do with this information. Make a Catholic themed Islam?

>>24515880
Then read the Bible without scholarship. Priests are all you need to interpret the Bible.

>>24505398 (OP)
You'll glean information like that from the original Rheims New Testament of 1582 (which basically was an apologetics Bible of anti-Protestant polemics), from the Haydock Douay-Rheims, and from the Ignatius Catholic Study Bible. However, there doesn't exist an all-in-one apologetics Bible that tackles all enemies of the Church. As >>24507799 said, you'll need to dig into individual theologians and Church Fathers for specific material you're looking for.

>>24505398 (OP)
Haydock as per >>24518857 but you really want an apologetics manual such as that authored by Msgr. Paul Glenn and reprinted by TAN Books or, of course, the Catholic Controversy by St. Francis de Sales, or of course, Summa Contra Gentiles

>>24505398 (OP)
No. They haven't a leg to stand on.

>>24519205
nta but how many of those are in europe
I would bet maybe 1/6 of it
And that is from 2011 lmao

>>24517113
that opens a terrible standard

>>24508066
I hope so
but I think in spiritual maturity winning debates becomes less important to ministry

>>24519205
>>24519316
Nearly 40% of the world's Catholics live in Latin America. Brazil alone has over 10% of all Catholics in the world, so his point about the West being based on Protestant ethics is correct. When you think about Catholicism think about Brazil.

>>24517113
If you depend on a human to maintain a relationship with God your relationship with God is dead from the start.

>>24519205
Look inside Catholics block
>"Folk Catholicism"
>Woke Catholicism
>Charismatic Catholicism
>Tradcath Larpers
>Cultural Catholics
>a teeny tiny congregation of the faithful

>>24505398 (OP)
lol

>>24505398 (OP)
Heard good things about the Ignatius Study Bible, try that one

>>24519391
You don’t need to read the Bible to have a relationship with God like the majority of Christians throughout history.

>>24505398 (OP)
>Is there a Catholic Bible that has in depth reference for debating Protestants, Orthodox, Muslims, Jews, Pagans, Atheists, Agnostics, and otherwise non-Catholics?
The Talmud.
Literally the closest thing to an "in-depth debating on the contents of the Old Testament."

>>24520255
What about the New Testament?

>>24505959
because he wrote the White Man's Bible

>>24522293
Is there a White Woman’s Bible?

>>24519383
How is Brazil not the west lmao it was founded by European colonists and thus its political and social institutions have been influenced by western culture. If you mean just race why not say so explicitly

>>24509363
It's just so stupid. You have to be brainwashed when younger to believe such BS.

>>24523464
He has a Bachelor of Science?

>>24519383
When I think about Catholicism, I think about Ireland.

>>24505398 (OP)
No but don't ont worry, no one really believes all of it anyway

>>24515880
Return to Zeus.

>>24525942
I do. So, that’s someone.

>>24527765
What were Jesus's last words?

>>24519453
This is how any large religious movement is though. Too bad, but can't hold it against the catholics really. I guess it's sorta covered by not everyone who cries lord, lord being saved.

>>24527831
“Father, into your hands I commend my spirit”?