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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:52:12 AM No.24505501
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What is your favorite thing in Tolkien that's never explained?

I really love Gandalf's line about the "nameless things" that gnaw the roots of the world. Very Lovecraftian, it's great.

I also like how he never really explains what exactly happened to the Entwives. It's fun that it's just kind of a mystery.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:21:41 AM No.24505531
>>24505501 (OP)
. read Ben Klassen.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:22:46 AM No.24505533
I like how he never explains why the eagles didn’t just drop che ring inside mount doom.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:25:37 AM No.24505536
>>24505533
he actually did. read the book you crayon munching spastic retard.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:30:30 AM No.24505547
>>24505536
he didn’t.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 10:35:03 AM No.24505619
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>>24505533
Why in every war nivel/movie/anything the protagonists don't board a plane, go straight on objective and the fly back home and instead choose to walk through no man land, traps and mines, fight enemy soldiers and risk their life?
I dunno, possibly because the enemy has planes (=wraith on flying drakes) and anti-aerial artillery (=ballistas) and your brilliant plan is to fly 3-4 easily identifiable and subjectable to wounds, hunger and thirst birds, straight into enemy territory (which, by the way, is warded by a bigass flaming EYE) to drop a magical ring (that actually wants to be found by the big eye and his wraiths) into a flaming volcano right behind the tower on which the big eye resides.
Brilliant plan, man, I wonder why you aren't published yet
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 10:48:52 AM No.24505636
>>24505619
so I’m supposed to believe they can black ops Gandalf out of Isengard without breaking a sweat but they can’t B-2 spirit the ring inside the volcano? don’t think so pal.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 10:59:29 AM No.24505647
>>24505501 (OP)
Why are midwits so obsessed with this guy. Every time I hear someone discussing "lore" i know I'm dealing with people below me.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:01:40 AM No.24505648
>>24505636
Sauron is several orders of magnitude more powerful than Saruman. I think he's smarter, too, Saruman seems to have steadily lost intelligence as he was corrupted, if his schizo meltdown in "The Voice of Saruman" is any indication.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:08:57 AM No.24505654
>>24505501 (OP)
Anon, both of those are explained.
Nameless Things are fusion of Leviathans and Jormungandr. Because Tolkien was taking inspiration from both Christian and Nordic mythologies.
And Entwives are quite heavily implied to have been captured and killed by Sauron.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:23:47 AM No.24505672
>>24505648
>the explanation is powerscaing
ok then.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 12:15:10 PM No.24505723
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A lot is left unexplained, and that's a good thing. Tom Bombadil and Goldberry, the Watcher, Shelob, the Dead Men, the Pukel Men, the other two wizards - some things can be mysterious and hazy and better off for it. If you force a backstory onto everything and everyone you end up like the Star Wars EU.

But the Pukel Men.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 1:17:04 PM No.24505821
I want to hear about the rest of the world. We see that the region LOTR and The Hobbit happen in are actually a small portion of the world, yet for some reason it's the only region that significant stuff happens in post-silmarillion.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 2:51:06 PM No.24505928
>>24505533
>Sauron has flying demon beasts
>The Eagles are proud creatures of ancient and powerful lineage
>The ring is like a magnet to the riders of the demon beasts and its effect is directly proportionate to the power of the soul that holds it

He didn't feel that he needed to explain this because at the time Tolkien was alive, the average college student could speak Latin and had read the Illiad by age 9. In this modern age where the average Briton under the age of 30 is a two digit IQ Pakistani who can't tie his shoes without raping a white girl or stabbing his cousin over a bottle of cider, and the average white man grows up on a strict diet of cartoons and squash which is 30% beet sugar by volume and reaches for a calculator to do basic arithmetic it is, of course, unthinkable that one wouldn't just say outright that a stupid idea is a stupid idea instead of not bringing the stupid idea up at all.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 6:12:49 PM No.24506315
>>24505636
Gandalf's escape from Isengard was sheer luck. He'd asked Radagast to persuade the eagles to spy on the whole area, and one of them happened to spot him.
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 1:09:32 AM No.24507235
>>24505928
Yeah but you forgot that plot holes aren't actual flaws in the chain of logic that ties a plot together, they're anything that I can point at disingenuously and ask stupid questions about as if those questions are rhetorical, forbid their being answered by anyone and declare the plot makes no sense.
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 1:11:20 AM No.24507244
>>24505647
If Tolkein is your idea of a midwit author you will lower your tone about who you consider beneath you.
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 8:44:39 AM No.24507982
>>24505533
the eagles told Gandalf they wont carry any burden
Gandalf, Sam, Frodo, Bilbo, Dorfs aren't a burden, the ring is
Harry
6/30/2025, 10:28:51 PM No.24509605
>>24505501 (OP)
J R Tolkien never explains why the eye of saruman is on his morder tower but not his home tower