Thread 24505712

>As a beginner writer I can confirm this
>Addicted to stimulants in forms of nicotine, caffeine
>Can't write without a drink or some unhealthy distraction
>Depressed and lifeless and unkept
>Readers being lively and quirky with social skills involving your writing

>>24505712 (OP)
When I was younger I wrote all the time. I desperately wanted to get published.
Years later, I'm not published. And I'm an alcoholic drunkposting on /lit/ listening to lilb the fucking basedgod.

>>24505712 (OP)
>He has readers
Lower your motherfucking tone, you ungrateful swine

>>24505738
i just read what you wrote, you have a reader.

>>24505766
A fat mentally ill worthless loser reader

>>24507308
/thread

>>24505712 (OP)
The original meme had photos of actual people as the authors. I remember I told the OP of that thread that his meme was saying that authors were real people and then he changed it and put wojaks instead.

KEK

For me it's one of these and a zyn and sometimes a coffee too and I still don't fucking write anything and i want to die.

>>24505712 (OP)
>can't into greentext
>conflates affect with addiction
>larps
OK.

>>24507380
brown

>>24507380
clip your nails swine

>>24507380
That cuticle on your ring finger is thicker than your fucking wrist is.

>>24507380
Maybe it's because you're relying on chemicals to write instead of the boundless fountain of energy which explodes from the human spirit.

>>24505725
You're living the life man, it doesn't get better than this.

>>24505712 (OP)
>begininer writer
>can confirm for all writers ever
Kek, when I was a teenager I also though being writer was a personality but I grew up. I still write, though.

>>24507318
Don't be that hard on yourself

All the greats were mostly sober and on rigid schedules. Don't let this modern american way of thinking that an artist must be high dude to tap into the creative unconscious it's all bullshit that leads you to write one good work before you succumb to wet brain and write incoherent slop. A junkie can't tell me anything the drugs haven't already told me when I was younger and doing them myself. A sober person can see clearly and write the truth.

>>24505766
Anon.... I'll be ur reader too ;)

Upvote

>>24505712 (OP)
>beginner writer

>>24508306
>nah man this chemical constellation is definitely the truth
>it's not like completely sober people killed and tortured millions of people out of sheer delusion and mass hysteria
>always trust that which other people have verified :)

>>24510539
I'm not saying all sober people are more enlightened than all drug users. I am saying if you want to be a GREAT author, being sober is the best way to go about it if you already have the right makeup.

>>24508306
yup, to master something it takes practice which requires disciplne. To master writing is similar to any other art form. What do you do when you want to learn to play piano? Well, you definitely do not get drunk or high, instead you should practice playing piano.

The whole idea that you need some chemical or substance to write is pure cope.
It may help you once or twice, but after that you're just getting high for the sake of getting high.

>>24512220
My neighbor, why would you picrel Hemingway with this comment?

>>24507380
Upgrade to psychostimulants, like me. You get one to two hours of very good(?) writing for every five to six hours of gooning.

>>24508306
>>24512220

The difficulty though (and why piano playing isn't necessarily an apt comparison) is that the best writing is not only technically skilled but inspired and personal and honest. Wrestling with the latter, or trying to access it, is what drives people to drugs and drink.

>>24513337
i dont think many people are consciously turning to drugs to become more creative. like maybe hippy guitarists in the 70s, but it cant be super common, certainly not among writers. They just turn to drugs for the same reasons everyone else does, nothing unique is happening there, except maybe the kind of people who turn to writing are likely to be unhappy with life in general (and thus more likely to self medicate)

also piano is absolutely an apt comparison for something that requires both skill and soul, idk why you think it's not. music is personal and honest in every way writing is.

>>24513368
Not the person you replied to, but I would like to counter the relation you make between drugs and creativity. Drugs remove the inhibition that prevents personal and honest writing, which then translates into perceived creative impulse.

It is tremendously difficult to write deceptively because it inspires the personal critic. The skill of writing only appears later, when one permits themselves to write freely. This is why so many people recommend, and rely upon, "word vomiting" to produce drafts. The two ends of mental energy are conducive to writing for this reason; inebriation reduces the capacity to lie, while stimulants propel thought with such velocity that self-criticism becomes a token resistance to the flow.

>>24513421
nevermind misread what you wrote. Stupid fucking mistakes you should kill yourself you worthless retard. It's a good thing you aren't a writer you fucking midwit

>>24513421
I quite like the last bit of your post, the polarity of inebriation and stimulation. Well said, anon.

This is why I don't know that writing is like making music. While aspects of the creative process are similar, writing is by nature obsessive, neurotic, and excessively verbal, making it uniquely prone to inhibition and self-criticism.

The hardest part of being a writer isn't writing well, it's getting out of your own way. Drugs expedite that.

>>24505712 (OP)
As a beginner writer, likely still receiving money from your parents, if you are like this you're likely just mentally ill. Don't confuse romanticizing mental illness with being an artist.
Writing should feel fun as long as you have the money to do it and risk nothing socially. What gets you mentally ill is that you have to go to work while doing it. If you work part time, you'll be poor and live like shit in your thirties, which gets you factually depressed (no money for holidays, relationship, hanging out, etc.). If you work 40 hours a week, writing will get you lifeless and you will need stimulants to work after working.
If you're not already depressed by the routine required to function socially + read/write on a literary level, publication will give you the final blow by showing you that most of what you do (and to which you are sacrificing your mental and physical health, your social standing, your money and the very possibility of being loved by other human beings) has no impact whatsoever on the reality of 2025 tiktok coombrain infested hellscape.
If you're not mentall ill, this will get you there. If you are already, be prepared because it's going to get significantly worse.

>>24513290
Hemingway was disciplined writer and followed a routine. The discipline stemmed from his life-long love of music. Watch the Ken Burns documentary.
>>24513337
You are describing some completely romantic bullshit and completely misunderstanding that language and writing are skills based on intelligence, mental prowess, creativity and so on - all of which takes practice.
You will never write anything of worth.

>>24505712 (OP)
try meditating