Anonymous
6/29/2025, 1:19:01 PM No.24505826
Literarily speaking why did the novel completely replace the romance in literary circles?
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Thread 24505826 - /lit/ [Archived: 766 hours ago]
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 1:25:39 PM No.24505836
Because most romances are shit without any value beyond history or philology
Go read Chrétien de Troyes, it's awful
Go read Chrétien de Troyes, it's awful
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 1:26:50 PM No.24505838
>>24505836
Romances are the ur form of literature
They are superior to the novel
>Mingled and marvellous grows the fray,
>And in Roland's heart is no dismay.
>He fought with lance while his good lance stood;
>Fifteen encounters have strained its wood.
>At the last it brake; then he grasped in hand
>His Durindana, his naked brand.
>He smote Chernubles' helm upon,
>Where, in the centre, carbuncles shone:
>Down through his coif and his fell of hair,
>Betwixt his eyes came the falchion bare,
>Down through his plated harness fine,
>Down through the Saracen's chest and chine,
>Down through the saddle with gold inlaid,
>Till sank in the living horse the blade,
>Severed the spine where no joint was found,
>And horse and rider lay dead on ground
If you prefer reading little women to this then you're a homosexual
Romances are the ur form of literature
They are superior to the novel
>Mingled and marvellous grows the fray,
>And in Roland's heart is no dismay.
>He fought with lance while his good lance stood;
>Fifteen encounters have strained its wood.
>At the last it brake; then he grasped in hand
>His Durindana, his naked brand.
>He smote Chernubles' helm upon,
>Where, in the centre, carbuncles shone:
>Down through his coif and his fell of hair,
>Betwixt his eyes came the falchion bare,
>Down through his plated harness fine,
>Down through the Saracen's chest and chine,
>Down through the saddle with gold inlaid,
>Till sank in the living horse the blade,
>Severed the spine where no joint was found,
>And horse and rider lay dead on ground
If you prefer reading little women to this then you're a homosexual
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 1:27:48 PM No.24505842
>>24505836
I'm sorry you're not European, anon. Hope you get deported soon.
I'm sorry you're not European, anon. Hope you get deported soon.
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 2:23:25 AM No.24507406
bump
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 2:55:54 AM No.24507491
>>24505826 (OP)
Tastes change over time. The novel answered a demand for literary realism that came from a growing middle class and growing female readership. Romances, and court literature generally, had a much smaller audience with specific tastes. I don't think it's a coincidence that, as rugged individualism/capitalism emerged across western Europe, literature shifted towards the novel as the form best suited to express this--free indirect discourse, lengthy internal narration, etc. More of a focus on characters as unique individuals w/ psychic landscapes rather than archetypes. I'm thinking of someone like Spenser against someone like Fielding.
>threadimg nice b8 m8
Tastes change over time. The novel answered a demand for literary realism that came from a growing middle class and growing female readership. Romances, and court literature generally, had a much smaller audience with specific tastes. I don't think it's a coincidence that, as rugged individualism/capitalism emerged across western Europe, literature shifted towards the novel as the form best suited to express this--free indirect discourse, lengthy internal narration, etc. More of a focus on characters as unique individuals w/ psychic landscapes rather than archetypes. I'm thinking of someone like Spenser against someone like Fielding.
>threadimg nice b8 m8
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 2:59:23 AM No.24507497
>>24505836
Gay opinion.
>>24505838
True. Epics are the ur form of literature and fantasy predates realism.
>>24505842
The realist novel is European.
Gay opinion.
>>24505838
True. Epics are the ur form of literature and fantasy predates realism.
>>24505842
The realist novel is European.
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 2:24:39 PM No.24508392
>>24507491
>Romances, and court literature generally, had a much smaller audience with specific tastes
Vritually all the common folk enjoyed historically were ballads which are romances by walter scott's defitnion
>Romances, and court literature generally, had a much smaller audience with specific tastes
Vritually all the common folk enjoyed historically were ballads which are romances by walter scott's defitnion
