>Thiel: But I also would like us to radically solve these problems. And so it’s always, I don’t know, yeah — transhumanism. The ideal was this radical transformation where your human, natural body gets transformed into an immortal body. And there’s a critique of, let’s say, the trans people in a sexual context, or, I don’t know, a transvestite is someone who changes their clothes and cross-dresses, and a transsexual is someone where you change your, I don’t know, penis into a vagina. And we can then debate how well those surgeries work. But we want more transformation than that. The critique is not that it’s weird and unnatural, it’s: Man, it’s so pathetically little. And OK, we want more than cross-dressing or changing your sex organs. We want you to be able to change your heart and change your mind and change your whole body. And then Orthodox Christianity, by the way — the critique Orthodox Christianity has of this, is these things don’t go far enough. That transhumanism is just changing your body, but you also need to transform your soul and you need to transform your whole self. And so ——

>>24507059 (OP)
sci-fi slop, apparently

>>24507059 (OP)
How To Watch Faggots And Inflate Penis by Gay Carnegie

What a fucking retard

Peter thiel is literally /ourguy/ fuck off kike. Palantir is the future.

>>24507059 (OP)
He loves Girard (he even sponsors research that utilizes mimetic theory) and iirc, he's praised Schmitt before. He's pretty based

>>24507165
what? lmao he plays for team jew

>>24507177
where's the based? he's creating technology to give jews even more power

>>24507059 (OP)
these people are not what they say they are. the closest would be marquis de sade or nietzsche

>>24507165
Face the wall.

>>24507059 (OP)
So this guy is basically just the left's George Soros, right?

>>24507070
YES

TL;DR – Rendlesham Forest Incident & "Message from the Future" Theory:

In December 1980, U.S. Air Force personnel stationed in the UK reported strange lights and encounters near Rendlesham Forest. Dubbed "Britain’s Roswell," the incident involved sightings of a glowing craft, radiation readings, and a binary code supposedly downloaded telepathically by one witness, Sgt. Jim Penniston.

Later interpretations of the binary code suggest coordinates and the cryptic phrase: "EXPLORATION OF HUMANITY, CONTINUOUS FOR PLANETARY ADVANCE" — hinting not at aliens, but time-traveling future humans.

According to a fringe theory, these "greys" are post-human descendants who went too far with transhumanism — merging with tech, losing biological functions (e.g., no stomach, needing to "plug in" for nutrients), and now traveling back in time to retrieve lost human DNA/emotions to save their dying species. They are not aliens — they are what we become if we mess up badly enough.

>This is how hard we could screw up the future: becoming small, grey, stomach-less USB elves begging the past for soul juice.

Atlas Shrugged. He even spoke at the Randian Atlas Society

>>24507211
Thiel is much more in bed with the government and has a much more radical idea of where he wants society to go. Based on that interview he doesn't give a fuck about if humans survive or not.

>>24507177

>They need to go to bed scared, they need to wake up scared... Safe means that the other person is scared."
https://x.com/occultni/status/1935608276051198290

And yet

>How does ressentiment radically differ from the authentic will to power? On this point, opinions diverge. For many commentators, it would be a difference of essence. But this then risks reducing Nietzsche’s vision to one of those reversed Manichaeisms that flourish so much in our world, and nullifying its fierce originality. In fact, Nietzsche himself would not have wanted this explanation — completely incompatible with the monistic character of his metaphysics. The essence of the will to power is that it is a form of energy that can only be measured in quantitative terms; can it become qualitative? Only the conception of the will to power as a conflictual rivalry can explain this enigma. It is indeed logical that individuals endowed with a superior will to power will triumph over others. The strong can only dominate the weak, and the weak suffer bitterly from their inferiority. They may do and say whatever they wish, including deny the reality of their inferiority, but they know well that in a fair fight, they have no chance of victory. Thus, they are condemned to replace force with cunning.

>These weak, these defeated ones, are the victims of ressentiment. Numerous, they can gather to found religions and philosophies that appear very “altruistic,” but whose only real aim is to overturn the natural hierarchy of the will to power. With an exaggerated sense of justice that only masks their ressentiment, these religions and philosophies dare to claim that the time will come for the meek and humble creatures. At the forefront, the Judeo-Christian tradition, whose “slave morality” was institutionalized by the egalitarian societies of modern democracies. But what does Nietzsche’s enigmatic allusion to the crushing weight of the will to power mean? We have just seen that the only way to avoid ressentiment is to surpass other wills. Nietzsche keeps repeating this. He always prescribes victory as the only effective remedy for the human spirit: “Remedies for the ills of the soul. What is the most healing balm? Victory.”

>A problem arises as soon as we start judging Nietzsche according to our own criteria. For where are his victories? Wasn’t his life a perpetual defeat? And isn’t defeat the most pernicious of microbes for the soul? Given the purely quantitative definition of the will to power and the selection criteria to enter the Nietzschean pantheon, embracing such mysticism with full lucidity certainly burdens one with a terrible weight. For if one encounters someone stronger than oneself, one risks losing one’s own illusions forever without being able to console oneself with any “slave morality.”

René Girard
The Superman in the Underground: The Strategies of Madness — Nietzsche, Wagner, and Dostoevsky


verdict: ill

>>24507211
You mean the Right's.
It's funny JD Vance figured out he could be a Christian from Peter Thiel (that's actually so funny)
Thiel is an AntiChrist
Ross Douthat actually asked him about the Anti-Christ, he said Greta Thunberg
Maybe so--but more so its Peter Thiel
The interest in life extension is always the give away
As Richard Wagner said, the fear of death is the beginning of lovelessness
>WE must learn to die, and to die in the fullest sense of the word. The fear of the end is the source of all lovelessness, and this fear is generated only when love itself begins to wane. How came it that this feeling which imparts the highest blessedness to all things living was so far lost sight of by the human race that at last it came to this: all that mankind did, ordered, and established was conceived only in fear of the end.

>>24507177
Zionist dupe
>>24507187
He says based things but this honestly makes him much worse. He's just a scared gay man

Disgusting gnostic filfth. Hope he gets AIDS and dies

>>24507319
Douthat just exasperates me these days. He goes on and on about "decadence" yet I can't think of anything more decadent than being a useless fat token "conservative" for the New York Times, essentially the shitlibs' dancing monkey. He occasionally says interesting things but I think that's all he's content to do, just be all talk and nothing more. I cannot imagine him doing or saying anything genuinely dangerous to the status quo.

>>24507059 (OP)
MORE ZIONIST HOMOS LETS GO SISTERS

Didn’t he used to be a big Renee Girard fan?

>>24507804
In fairness Douthat did point out that future Anti-Christ's could use Palantir
But Thiel is already that
Anyone who is a friend of Thiel is almost certainly on the side of evil in the spiritual war
I get it though--I thought he was cool, here is a billionaire who actually has interesting ideas and isn't just a empty headed liberal (billionaires generally are very uninteresting people, Musk included - Thiel at least is different)
With Douthat, it makes me think about how you get what you want in life (becoming influential newspaper columnist) and this ends up being your punishment. The weight gain is related to a mysterious illness, "Lyme disease", but its probably all related (being intellectual controlled opposition can't be good for anyone's health, especially when you're better and know better than that, and I think he does)
I think he's trying to do some good by writing books arguing theism is rational
He's in a bad situation because no one really cares about what he has to say outside of his position at the Times (or any other elite outlet) and he came of age as an elite Buckleyite journalist right as elite outlets and Buckleyism were losing all credibility (not that journalists or Buckleyites were ever credible -- in a very deep sense he, and pretty much all journalists or media personalities, are paid to lie)
"(A statesman is an easy man,
He tells his lies by rote;
A journalist makes up his lies
And takes you by the throat;
So stay at home' and drink your beer
And let the neighbours' vote")
I like him--I mean I used to read him regularly, but that was almost a decade ago, but his position is pitiable and indeed decadent
If he does something dangerous he has nothing to gain--and people generally, even good people, just follow their self-interest, even if it means being a paid dancing monkey
I'm surprised someone at 4chan even knows who he is

>>24507909
I'm in the right circles on Twitter to know who he is. It's how I know who Thiel is, too.

>>24507319
Based Wagnerian interpretation of history. The Ring is a mythic presentation of the various forces struggling for supremacy in modernity. Seems like the Alberich's may just win.

>>24507182
Team Jew plays for him. They just don't realize it yet
>>24507293
If things go his way, what survives won't be human in any way we'd recognize

>>24507059 (OP)
Bait aside, how do I actually figure out Thiel's whole spiel? Moldbug seems like a red herring and a fallguy

>>24507977
People like Thiel are nihilistic misanthropes trying to usher in the destruction of humanity via a trans or post-human totalitarian world state. They way he completely weaves in and out over the issue of the Antichrist and high technologies completely spits of Strauss's (whom Thiel is a scholar of) art of writing method to avoid persecution: write between the lines, conflate, confuse, and contradict. Thiel is really bad at this and its super transparent that he knows his investments in AI and Palantir is playing with the fire of Prometheus.

>>24508007
Also, Strauss would fucking hate Thiel's guts. He explicitly wrote and warned of the prospect of the sciences and arts (technology) on multiple occasions making the potential of a universal and pernament tyranny a serious future prospect. Seems like Thiel thinks he can try to come out on top of this.

its funny the chinese have palantir already for like 10 years but they arent faustian enough and dont have luciferians so no one cares lmao. ytpeople really be some crazy lunatics.

Thiel is proof that homophobia is the correct stance.

>>24507059 (OP)
Tolkien

>>24508008
Thiel is one of the logical conclusions of Strauss, though by no means the only one. Strauss was a doer of great evil in his own way.

>>24507977
You are right, Moldbug from what I can tell is a bullshitter with some useful ideas; most unforgivable is his terrible prose style
Thiel supports a lot of seemingly contradictory parties:

National Review / First Things Magazine, Christian/Catholic Zionist types (where abortion is enemy #1 and homosexuality is very wrong unless the gay man is very rich)
Bronze Age Pervert
Red Scare Podcast (though the subreddit has totally abandoned the girls)
Tyler Cowen and Alex Tabbarok at MarginalRevolution
The CEO of Palantir is a lifelong Democrat

But you can quickly realize that all of these groups are basically the same
Ultimately I think he's just a libertarian (a form of secular Judaism), whose spirit is most affinity with Tyler Cowen, a tepid and boring guy if there ever was one

Blake sums it up thus:

Dark revolving in silent activity:
Unseen in tormenting passions;
An activity unknown and horrible;
A self-contemplating shadow,
In enormous labours occupied

For a profound understanding one should study the Ring and Parsifal by Richard Wager

On the other hand this >>24508007 may be correct but its really not so different than what I am suggesting, the banality of evil
I guess the question is, Does Thiel know that he is evil? Or does he wrongly believe himself to be good? If he actually considers himself a dark lord in private -- that does, I think, make him a little bit cooler

>>24508039
I'm skeptical. Strauss is hard to parse, I don't fully understand him myself yet, I've seen interpretation of him in scholarship all over the place much less here, and even my political philosophy professor-mentor after all their years are not sure what to make exactly of Strauss, albeit we agreed Strauss is very much a hyper-reactionary Platonist who correctly points out the vileness of modernity. I'd be curious to hear more on your initial thought/comment, how Thiel stems from him, how you view him as a great doer of evil.

To suffer woes which Hope thinks infinite; To forgive wrongs darker than death or night;
To defy Power, which seems omnipotent;
To love, and bear; to hope till Hope creates
From its own wreck the thing it contemplates;
Neither to change, nor falter, nor repent;
This, like thy glory, Titan, is to be
Good, great and joyous, beautiful and free;
This is alone Life; Joy, Empire, and Victory!

>>24508048
Forgot to add, Strauss makes his comments on the threat of universal tyranny in both NR&H and On Tyranny, and does so in a clear and normative manner that doesn't leave any wiggle room for questioning if he's being ironic or writing in the art-style he details in Persecution and the Art of Writing. As a jew who fled Nazi Germany, he clearly has a bone to pick with modernities proclivity to birth monstrous political regimes.

Thiel has been rambling on about the same shit for over a decade. Here's his ass being handed to him by david graeber - https://vimeo.com/112197123?embedded=true&source=vimeo_logo&owner=33860512

thiel and his ilk are all going to be designated international terrorists the very instant the wind blows the other way and this gay paradigm gets shattered

>>24508040
He talks about democracy failing, I think he views its failure as inevitable and he wants to be king in the world to come. He may even want it to fail, on some level.

Which doesn't necessarily make him out of place in the Modern world. A lot of different parties are basically hovering over the postwar era like vultures as it grows old and sick. Ready to feast on it when it dies. Communists, monarchists, fascists, reactionaries, revolutionaries, postcolonialists, a lot of parties have a vested interest in the end of American hegemony and the postwar West. About the only ones who want to save it seem to be the oldschool libs and neolibs like Fukuyama.

>>24508048
>after all their years are not sure what to make exactly of Strauss
NTA but any political thinker who is impossible to pin down and causes so much confusion in his wake is suspicious ... Life is not long enough to waste years figuring out "What Strauss really meant"
By their fruits ye shall know them

>>24508065
Valid point, very much might be so. I still intend on getting more into Strauss, and your point might be good one to weigh my further assessment on.

>>24508063
You wish. They control everything.

>>24508063
Piercing comment

>>24508091
meant for >>24508064

>>24508064
Yes, this is right
>>24508093
was about to say the same

>>24508040
And Steve Sailer... I wash shocked to see him retweet Richard Hanania advocating for regime change in Iran

>>24508078
It's amazing what they did with the internet... Get everything to migrate here, and then destroy google search so you can only work through the centralized social media sites (or chatgpt)

His ketamine flopsweat always makes him look like he's carved out of rancid butter.

>>24508134
I sincerely hope 4chan never shuts down. It's crazy just how bad the rest of the internet was when it went down. I disagree with almost all of the politics on this site but I don't give a fuck. 4chan is the best place on the internet.

>>24508008
>>24508007
Honest question. We've all seen how effective FPV kill drones have been in ukraine. I'm surprised they have not been used more in... "other circumstances", you know

>>24508210
every major event has a shitload of anti-drone tech so you can't kill the pope or president.

>>24508221
anti drone tech such as? Jammers? Shotguns? None of thqt is effective, the war has proven that. The ukrainians and russians now use unjammable fiber-optic drones. Make it heavy and fly fast so it can't be stopped and has plenty of inertia and you have an interesting cocktail

>>24508240
yes it is. you're comparing a stretched front all over ukraine to a small area where there's probably 200+ guards with anti-drone guns, air defence and spooks watching everything. as for terrorist attacks i'm sure we'll start seeing those soon

>>24508210
I've wondered this too and I think its just a matter of time, especially with fully autonomous FPV drones slated to be fielded on Ukraine this year. Sooner or later a very public VIP will get killed by a drone.

>>24507309
>A problem arises as soon as we start judging Nietzsche according to our own criteria. For where are his victories? Wasn’t his life a perpetual defeat? And isn’t defeat the most pernicious of microbes for the soul? Given the purely quantitative definition of the will to power and the selection criteria to enter the Nietzschean pantheon, embracing such mysticism with full lucidity certainly burdens one with a terrible weight. For if one encounters someone stronger than oneself, one risks losing one’s own illusions forever without being able to console oneself with any “slave morality.”
I haven't read this text yet, but it just makes me love Girard even more. Nietzschetards can't stop seething over the fact that their idol lived a life of weakness and ressentiment, spending his last years living off the pity of others. He unknowingly elevated mimetic desire to become his entire metaphysical system, yet got crushed under the weight of his rivals.

>>24508170
Agreed, the anonymity and low moderation lets this site (really, this board in particular) have the best conversations on the internet. Sure, you have to sort through a ton of Marxist and /pol/ slop, but you still have a better chance of having a worthwhile and authentic conversation here than anywhere else online.

>>24508698
>>24508170
There must be somewhere to go for when 4chan meets its final demise. Some other imageboard.

>>24507059 (OP)
>Literally names his tech surveillance company after an evil wizard's all-seeing orb
Disconcerting.

The Talmud and the Kabbalah

He picked the wrong René G to follow and inshallah his head will be struck clean off his shoulders when Kalki rides down on Devadatta with a burning blade to silence his tamasic babbling
>>24507293
He could barely articulate anything at all in that interview beyond his apathy for mankind, these silicon valley fags are turning completely braindead from ket

yeah i have read schopenhauer

what i am concerned with is who might win in a cage fight between thiel or musk with them both getting some technics i think that would be something to discuss further though

>>24509007
thiel is actually in shape, musk has let himself go

What’s with all the anti-Christ talk? I just don’t get it honestly, I see no reason to give care or thought to religious ideas. Fucking annoying just give me the blue pill Obama back man I hate all you Abrahamics.

>>24509197
According to a Tekken streamer I follow, these people are ruled by the Jews and THEY believe in the antichrist and all this garbage. So they want to corrupt humanity, bring about a fake apocalypse, etc. It probably stems from a powertrip of wanting their control to reach metaphysical religious levels, as well as using cults like the illuminati to control people (see celebrities all being into witchcraft and other things like that, flashing all seeing eye, etc.) So if this theory is correct, they either believe in it, want to turn it into a reality or want to meme by making it real.

>>24509218
Even the new Thiel interview they talk about it for like 15 minutes. It can kinda be cool to listen to in some sense but in a serious sense it’s so off putting, I can’t get behind any of this shit.

People like Thiel and all the *brahamic messianists running around in America and Israel make me think theres a secret esoteric cabal of moloch-devil worshippers and thats what these religions have always been about. Thiel is so obviously a phony Christian.

>>24509257
this is elon musks mother

I hate this guy and Moldbug because now libertarianism can't be discussed in the US without a baseline prejudice that libertarians want society to be ruled by CEO monarchs, he has raped and erased all previous libertarian philosophers and economists. Then Varoufakis (who, by the way, ruined Greece, I don't know how is he still allowed to talk in public) ripped off Moldbug's theories and called it "technofeudalism" without citing him and now that term is ubiquitous to criticise capitalism and made the problem for libertarians even worse.

I don't know what Hoppe thinks about these guys but it must not be nice.

>>24509313
wrong pic

>>24509278
Wow awesome.

>>24508165
>>24508936
Why the fuck are all of these guys doing ketamine? Is it really so great? I've never done any drug except alcohol, I've never even smoked a cigarette. What's so great about ketamine? It seems to melt your mind, so I see no reason to take it.

>>24508170
>>24508698
The real value of 4chan is that it's the only website that's doesn't use an algorithm.

>>24509278
lmao she looks like every Luciferian in an exorcist movie

>>24509197
>>24509218
Anon it's because it's all real. Everything in the Bible is real, including in Genesis. All the major religions have at least some truth to them. Jesus really did rise from the dead. There really are miraculous and supernatural things in the world.

These guys who are both smart and plugged into dark sources talk about this stuff because it's not fake. Your quaint atheism will not survive the future that is coming.

>>24509197
>>24509218
>>24509220
>>24509538
It doesn't matter if YOU don't believe. The people who rule you believe it with a zeal from beyond modernity. They will genocide entire races, glass entire lands of earth, poison whole oceans and rape whoever they need to get what they want.

What's worse than an angry iron age god enacting some obscure religious prophecy is a group of extremely powerful people who have all the resources to act out Armageddon like a nativity scene.

>>24509500
Yes, it's actually awesome and beats every other drug easily. However, these guys are clearly already deranged and aren't using it for therapeutic and personal development purposes.

the dead sea scrolls or nag hammadi or the pseudo aristotle on causality are entirely different matters

>>24508681
Girard's only path to overcoming Nietzsche is to cast out the notion of divinity itself, painting it as a shield the madman uses to hide the mediator who truly dictates his desires. The true flaying of Nietzsche, then, doesn't lie in merely identifying the oscillations in his obsessions: Dionysus *vs* the Crucified, Dionysus *or* the Crucified. It lies in the silent perspective Girard, for his own good, refuses to see: that Nietzsche had already anticipated this entire critique by embodying the synthesis of Dionysus *as* the Crucified, not as a disjointed opposition, but as a unified identity.

Indeed, as shown in the letter he sent to Cosima Wagner on January 3, 1889:

>This time I come as victorious Dionysus, who will make the Earth a holiday ... Do not say that I had a lot of time ... Heaven rejoice that I am here ... And I hung on the cross ...

Or the letter sent to Reinhard von Seidlitz on February 12th, 1888:

>I have not even reached even one more or less even discussion of at least one of my books. Now they have adopted the words "eccentric", "pathological", "psychiatric". [...] how does it happen that no dog objects to this? What does not one feel hurt when they pour mud on me? And already for years - no consolation, no drop of humanity, no breath of love.

Ironic given that Girard himself wrote, as if taking offense on Nietzsche's behalf:

>When the keeper opens the lions’ cage and Don Quixote prepares to confront the monsters, they simply refuse to fight: they yawn and go back to sleep. [...] I can’t help but think that Nietzsche, for his part, would have felt deeply insulted by the lions’ nonchalance.

>>24508877
"Prometheism" has the same vibe

>>24509636
I don't understand how everybody hems and haws about how to respond to Nietzsche when simple Christians have always had the right answer: the empty tomb. This is the response to Nietzsche, and frankly the response to Thiel, too. Nietzsche simply proclaims himself an atheist and does not believe in the Risen Christ, because if the Risen Christ is real then everything Nietzsche things about the world is wrong.

This is why the thinker who most properly responds to Nietzsche in the 20th Century isn't Derrida or Foucault or even Girard, it's Ratzinger, the pious Catholic who was also a genius.

>>24509696
so you believe in the fairy tale of resurrection?

>>24509519
Kek'd

>>24509696
72 AD called it wants its anti-roman jewish psyop back

>>24509837
I believe it's a literal fact of history, if that's what you mean.

"There are more things in Heaven and Earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy."

>>24509846
>t.

that just means the thread isn't active anymore.

>>24507059 (OP)
I wanna see more of thiel's recent theories without all the interruptions. he's entertaining af. and going by the yt comments for that interview, multitudes are having meltdowns over what he says.

bump

>>24510419
geez its like being a transhuman ghoul who is almost intentionally being bad at hiding his glee for the coming of the antichrist floors people for some reason

>>24510419
>he's entertaining af.
if you like watching a sweaty homosexual trying to put together a coherent sentence, sure.
>multitudes are having meltdowns over what he says.
yea, people with souls are reacting to an antihuman golem and his desire to exterminate our species.

>>24510814
>>24510818
The trouble is we are caught between these guys and the unironic communists, who are just as bad in their own way. There is going to need to be some other path charted to avoid living in a dystopia either of the techbros' making or the communists'.

>>24510833
There are no serious communists in America. The "communists" you speak of are either lukewarm Democratic Socialist or resentful identinarians. And then "MAGA communism" is just Ezra Pound-style fascism which steers away from the bad associations. Ezra Pound, by the way, is perhaps America's sharpest political/economic thinker
It's impossible to go back to communism
Though Marx's work is in a sense immortal

>>24510849
It would actually be pretty funny if Pound winds up getting the last laugh among all the Modernists. In the end he kind of already has, the anti-antisemitism and peaceful internationalism of guys like Joyce and Hemingway has blown up in everybody's faces and now looks woefully inadequate and pathetic. Can you imagine Joyce trying to say nice things about Jews in 2025, after everything Israel has done?

>>24510849
>And then "MAGA communism" is just Ezra Pound-style fascism
wtf is MAGA communism? Ezra Pound-style fascism? you mean calling out jews and usury?

>>24510851
I completely agree. I think antisemites will be vindicated, if they haven't been already. They were wise. The opposite ideology looks totally naive and pathetic in 2025. The future belongs to people like Ezra Pound.

>>24510860
The Jews/Israelis must really and truly have blackmail material on EVERYBODY in power, because it's the only reason I can think of why the great powers of the West haven't shut Israel down for their own self-preservation. Israel has basically shredded any concept of international law and the "rules-based" international order, and has revealed that it was all merely a mask for good old-fashioned might makes right. The West has nothing it can say to China or to Russia at this point, or to India, or anyone else, and Israel is at fault for it. Israel has single-handedly undermined at least one of the core pillars of American hegemony, and I'd argue more than one.

>>24510856
Calling it Ezra Pound-style might not be precise (I don't think they read him), but it reminds me of Pound
Jackson Hinkle and Haz Al-Din
They will obviously strongly deny being fascists but Mussolini started as a Marxist revolutionary
Super anti-Zionist and the insistence that Marx is anti-Woke
Pound's main insistence was it wasn't necessary for people to work so much (his plan was a 4 hour work day MAX - worker's paradise)

>>24510851
Lol. You know there's actually a story about Joyce feeling amazement at Hitler. "I despise him and all but... to have all those people behind you!"

>>24510881
It's easy to forget just how NEW fascism was at its outset. Nothing like the Old Right, with its ties to the aristocracy and the Church. Fascism was as fresh and new as communism, newer, really. I can't blame anybody for being amazed and impressed by it when it first hit the scene.

I find it hilarious how the jews got the state they wanted so bad because of antisemitism in Europe or whatever and then in less than a century they became the biggest pariah state and antisemitism is now at the highest ever worldwide because of their own actions and yet they will still find a way to blame others. Life couldn't be more absurd.

>>24510894
>antisemitism is now at the highest ever worldwide
I really never thought of this, but it's true. I can understand why the Jews are terrified. Unfortunately this seems to only make it worse

>>24510910
They do legitimately seem to make very bad decisions when flustered or put on the spot, don't they? It's an element of their comedy, too, it's why stand-up comedy is like that. They don't really have that ability to go dead and make cool, calm decisions in crisis moments, like you see in White people and sometimes in Hispanics and Asians, too.

>>24510894
The creation of that country simply helped spread to the whole world what Europe had already known for centuries. When you think about it, it really is such a funny thing. God is definitely a comedian.
>>24510920
They have such a lack self-awareness and basic common sense which is interesting considering they're supposedly smart. They can't understand why censoring and deplatforming critics of their country just creates more, not less, antisemitism. They're too petty and vindictive to be pragmatists which is another reason why they shouldn't be in power.

>>24510818
>a sweaty homosexual trying to put together a coherent sentence
topkek, you nailed it

>>24508012
that was the beta test

>>24509278
>>24509840

>>24509889
>t.almud

>>24507059 (OP)

>>24508008
Its weird how the anti-tech side of things (inb4 Ted K, he's not what I'm talking about) hasn't had a guy with immense power arguing for the opposite. All there seems to be is borgs left and right.

>>24510869
>The Jews/Israelis must really and truly have blackmail material on EVERYBODY in power
They control much of the media. All they have to do is start running smear pieces against anyone they don't like and refuse to give them the ability to speak, like what happened to Ron Paul in 2012 when he got blackballed by the mainstream media.

Some of this power is dissipating now, but it's still enough to make many politicians cower in abject fear. There is also AIPAC in the United States, which will further use shell companies to massively fund rival politicians against anyone who upsets them. So roughly 95% of politicians fall in line with AIPAC because of that threat. It's a whole corrupt system.

>>24511797
maybe soon we'll have him

>>24511797
You may underestimate the degree to which all elite or mainstream discourse is captured by (to put it bluntly) the Enemy. This includes, maybe especially, respectable Christian voices and embattled Christian culture warriors. Only in unpleasant ghettos like this place (and some other blogs and corners of Twitter) do you find occasional lucidity regarding what is going on. There is always hope of course -- unrelenting courage will always succeed on some level (in fact it's the only thing that ultimately succeeds).

>>24507059 (OP)

>>24508062
Here's John Carmack debunking Graeber:

https://x.com/ID_AA_Carmack/status/1796622337963389412

>>24512838
That wasnt a very good debunking, he basically agreed with Graeber and then quibbled and kvetched
Understand the fundamental meaning of usury and you will see that modern employment is an empire of fraud
The individual van only try their best

>>24512901
>Understand the fundamental meaning of usury and you will see that modern employment is an empire of fraud
explain it to me pls

>>24509278
Why are they consistently like this though? Is it just another upper class peculiarity ala orgone therapy or is it something more entrenched?

>>24512916
I’ve been thinking about it and Christian values are diametrically opposed to what they stand for. Hedonism, greed, manipulation, nihilism. Anything you name will oppose Christianity. As for if there are supernatural forces they tap into, I don’t know. I would say there are at least strong subconscious archetypal forces that they could be gaining power or motivation from. I think it’s the logical conclusion of extreme selfishness and desire, like the upper limit, while Christ is the polar opposite.

>>24512904
Usury is fake value creation—you are making money without actually being productive
Rent-seeking in essence (when you are charging rent you aren’t creating any value but you are making money)
Dante put usurers and sodomites in the same part of inferno
That’s very funny; anal sex is fake sex
Unsurprisingly our society is dominated by pro-anal sex propaganda and usury
What jobs create real value? You’ll find that most jobs in the US economy create no or limited value and must be unfulfilling, though they can be said to preform a role in management or distribution (in that they help, by spending their uselessly won money, to bolster the US economy)
But this goes very deep because understand value is essence of Culture, human life—humans seek to attach themselves to value or to create value (love). Nietzsche would say “power”

>>24512927
https://www.israelhayom.com/2025/04/23/bottom-of-darkness-children-raped-in-ritual-ceremonies-expose-the-horrors/

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2024/jan/10/inside-ring-former-nsa-counterspy-says-jeffrey-eps/

nta but sometimes when i read articles like these i begin to think that evangelical christians and zionists really are all part of some kind of esoteric devil worshiping cult trying to lead the world into nuclear annihilation or something along those lines, the truth is most likely far more boring but it would be nice if there actually were supernatural forces at play that lead people into committing such inhumane acts against others.

Farmers and artisans, miners, are the primal creators of value. Industrial gains sharply decreased the labor need for these things—but value surplus is utterly squandered. Ironically increasing investment in things can ruin them. “Science” is now a careerist bureaucracy, people become scientists out of worldly ambition and not love of the subject—science is largely dead, you should ignore all official science. I hardly need to mention what happened to education. You can read Schopenhauer complain about the education of his time and place; things can always get worse

>>24508012
It's the classic pattern of chinese history
>Invent world-changing technology ahead of everyone else
>don't do anything with it out of fear of disrupting the status quo too much
They did it with blast furnaces. They did it with gunpowder. They did it with mass production and now they do it with the quasi-omniscient technostate

>>24508936
I still don't see how following Girard would ever lead to this. If anything, Thiel has decided to do the exact opposite of what Girard outlines as the Christian life.

>>24507059 (OP)
Thiel's writings are almost all centered around the failure of Locke's philosophical project, and the failure of free markets and secularism generally. I would recommend reading his essay, The Straussian Moment, you will see that he is most influenced through by Locke in trying to formulate Locke's negation through the critique of his system, all other influences, such as Strauss himself, are ultimately just the means of constructing this negation.

>>24510869
>Israel has basically shredded any concept of international law and the "rules-based" international order, and has revealed that it was all merely a mask for good old-fashioned might makes right.
Always was.

>The West has nothing it can say to China or to Russia at this point, or to India
Do you think the Chinese or Russians ever believed the liberal "rules-based" international order was anything but a mask for American power? You were the naive one. It wasn't them. Maybe the Russians a little bit (or some Russians) but the Chinese? No way. That is ridiculous. The Indians seem to support Israel in the meantime so it's probably a wash there.

>>24510872
Yeah.

>>24510894
Israeli propaganda plays up antisemitism and "how dare they" for international audiences but honestly I think a lot of it is pretty cynical and I don't think stopping antisemitism was ever the goal, because the whole premise of Zionism is that Jews need a barracks state to protect themselves because everyone hates them, and it's only a matter of time that they're expelled from wherever it seems like they're being accepted. It's a "it's a hardball world, son" kind of Russian-Jewish mafia mentality. That's why people like Peter Thiel and Alex Karp like it so much:
https://youtu.be/aYM6uV_K7B0

You can't intimidate them with antisemitic 4chan posts. American Jews, possibly. But the Israelis hear that stuff all the time from people who shoot missiles at them while declaring that the conquering sword of Islam will soon annihilate them, or right before a suicide bomber blows himself up inside a pizza restaurant. Do you know what that looks like? They tune it out most of the time anyways because they live their world in the Hebrew language. They care what America thinks and does, but they don't care what the rest of the world thinks.

As a subsection of that, Israel is really bad at P.R. because the idea of even bothering to explain yourself or ask for permission or approval for anybody else is deeply un-Zionist. This is at the core of it. Again, antisemitism in a more Israeli-Zionist mentality has nothing to do with the Jews, it's more of a symptom of a society going down the drain, which does not signal intimidating capability. Like that musician who was singing "death, death to the IDF." If you want to kill IDF soldiers, then go and try it. But those words don't really mean anything. Throw a few ballistic missiles at them and now we're talking. It might be a problem for Britain, but those Israelis will tend to think that's unserious. The women in the crowd at Glastonbury didn't even hold their babies up in the air and shout that they had given birth to future martyrs! People do that in their neighborhood.

I'm not justifying this mentality, but that's just how they are. Or a lot of them.

But that's what Thiel and Karp are into, from what I've seen. It's a lot of "we're tired of explaining ourselves" and apologizing for this and that, and "we build software that helps the West dominate and make our enemies go to bed at night being afraid." I'm not exaggerating, that's how those Palantir guys talk. But it is different with a lot of American Jews who have adapted to a liberal or woke cultural morality that's all about trying to be "okay" and be nice and not hurt anyone's feelings.

>>24513155
"We're tired of explaining ourselves" is basically the attitude of the New Right as a whole. Think about all their rhetoric about "hardening your heart" and how empathy is bad. The New Right basically thinks that even listening to the Left, or anyone else, is a sucker's game. The way you describe the Israelis sounds a lot like that.

Which would be very interesting, wouldn't it? The goys learning a few Jewish tricks.

>>24513125
>and I don't think stopping antisemitism was ever the goal
From their perspective, they have defined "antisemitism" as being "opposing my gambit for power." In that sense, they do want to end it. It makes sense. They want to end all opposition to their seizing of power, just as countless other cults and mafia organizations do and have done in the past. One of the main ways this is done is by attempting to end all criticism of it. This is why I continue to criticize it constantly everywhere I go.

It will end in defeat for these people who claim fallaciously to be Jews, as it will for other cults, since they will be going to eternal agony and suffering in the lake of fire. And it will be entirely, 100% their fault when they end up there. They could have chosen the truth but rejected it.

>because the whole premise of Zionism is that Jews need a barracks state to protect themselves because everyone hates them,
There are plenty of cults out there who have had similar thought processes in the past. It always ends the same way for them. Some of these cults have claimed falsely to be Jews, such as the one we're talking about now. That historically inaccurate claim does not change their ultimate fate. I have absolute certainty that they are hell-bound right along with all previous grimy cults that came before them.

>American Jews, possibly.
Actually, anon, whether you're talking about people who claim to be Jews in America or people claiming to be Jews elsewhere, the same fact holds: none of them have anything to do with the Biblical Jews.

Historically speaking, the people we are talking about are completely separate groups of people from that which the Bible talks about. The people we are talking about here are connected with the spread of the Talmud and later derivative literature. None of which was written or existed until long after the New Testament.

True, some of it rips off parts of our Scripture similar to what other cults have done. But there are plenty of cults which plagiarize bits and pieces from the Bible, usually doing it completely out of context.

>They tune it out most of the time anyways because they live their world in the Hebrew language.
It's neo-hebrew based on an attempt to revive the language in the 19th century. It has nothing to do with authentic Hebrew, except being a grotesque attempt to imitate it by unrelated historical-revisionist moderners.

>>24513155
>that's how those Palantir guys talk.
The nearest comparison I can think of to this is the Italian mafia before the Maxi Trial. The mafia did bully a lot of people and run extortion rackets where they plundered the wealth of their host society. They probably had words they told themselves at night to convince themselves that they were smarter than the rest of society. But eventually, they pushed it too far. Then we got insiders to inform on the mob and brought down the whole system. That's what I'm looking forward to witnessing in my lifetime with these guys.

>>24513184
That reminds me of when the right did this thing about either Levitt or Musk bringing their child to the white house and going "so and so is normalizing children" and it struck they were trying to copy the weird tumblr/twitter lingo of the left but hadn't quite got it.

>>24513190

>>24513220
What are you, Ethiopian or something?

Foucault

>>24513207
What's interesting is that having no compassion and believing that listening to the other side is for suckers has historically been the Left's thing. At least since communism came onto the scene. Think of Marx's famous line: "We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror."

Classically it was the Left who could rely on a sense of pity or compassion in the Right to bulldoze them and wipe them out. Happened in France, happened in Russia, almost happened in 1848, almost happened in Spain, happened in China to a lesser degree.

But now if BOTH sides believe empathy is a sucker's game, and that the other side simply isn't worth listening to, how do we avoid flat-out war? It seems to me the Left and the Right are now on a collision course and neither of them is now inclined to blink.

no the left is the side that has compassion listens to the other side too i think

the dang girondins

is this the thread to bring up pauline intentionality

>>24513289
singularity soon please help us techno jesus please dont be techno yaweh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiBJeLrIoes

0:00 Intro
1:34 Neoliberalism
6:59 Imperium vs Dominium
14:00 New International Economic Order
18:57 Peter Thiel
23:04 Libertarian exit & LARP
37:53 Prospera vs Honduras
46:50 Patchwork vs globalization
53:59 Monarchy & anarcho-capitalism
1:03:56 Elon Musk
1:09:22 Post-neoliberalism?

>>24508008
>>24508048
Nta, but I just went over Thiel's "The Straussian Moment," and his main takeaway is almost soley about exoteric writing (which he consistently confuses as "esoteric writing"). But otherwise strikes me that he's pretty open about his definite preference for Girard over Strauss.

>>24508008
>>24508048
And to add, I don't think Strauss would *hate* Thiel per se, but he'd have every qualm in the world over what Thiel does. A bit of something like the problem of Alcibiades.

>>24513362
My point was more that Thiels is very familiar with Struss, and even beyond his argument of the Strassian moment, that he speaks and responds to things like the Antichrist issue in a manner that a Straussian philosopher would, by writing (speaking) between the lines and other obfuscating to avoid getting beheaded by an angry mob or king.

Also this has turned into a thermonuclearly based thread.

>>24513385
Good god ignore my misspelling of Strauss, gonna go kms now

>>24513184
>"We're tired of explaining ourselves" is basically the attitude of the New Right as a whole. Think about all their rhetoric about "hardening your heart" and how empathy is bad. The New Right basically thinks that even listening to the Left, or anyone else, is a sucker's game. The way you describe the Israelis sounds a lot like that. Which would be very interesting, wouldn't it? The goys learning a few Jewish tricks.
I think it's kind of Nietzschean. That doesn't imply not studying the enemy or trying to understand the enemy, but in yeah, Israelis are really not into explaining themselves to anybody, in general anyways. You didn't bring this up but it would be mistaken to see American Jews and Israeli Jews as the same. They couldn't be more different. You see a lot of moralizing in the Jewish diaspora, particularly in America (where people moralize about everything). If you want to read about the Israeli mentality, read this essay originally written in 1990 watching American Jews on a college campus trying to "explain" themselves be accepted and liked and the Israeli guy was just *disgusted* with it. It's very deep in the culture there:
https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/how-to-fight-anti-semitism-on-campus-a-shocking-new-method/

>>24513190
>none of them have anything to do with the Biblical Jews
Yeah but who cares. I do see this as a very modern phenomenon. The Zionists invented myths and borrowed others off the shelf to ground their state-building project. I don't want to get into the whole history of nationalism but this isn't unique to the Jews btw.

>Then we got insiders to inform on the mob and brought down the whole system.
You think you're soooo clever. You think you've got this whole thing planned out, and that people are going to "see everything" and then it'll be over for the bad guys. I'll tell you why that isn't going to work by way of an example. You know all these natsocs who still deny the Holocaust? They're the only people who still try to hide what they do. Or them and internet Stalin fans I guess while they post anonymously on the internet. But the real killers of the 21st century don't hide, nor do they really conceal what they do. There are too many cameras and drones and so on nowadays. And the real killers run software companies, serve in the IDF, or strap GoPro cameras to themselves before throwing grenades into someone's house in a kibbutz and put the footage onto the internet, and the ones who run the software companies see everything you're posting as well, so you can't really hide.

>>24513385
I really have no idea what you mean specifically by "the Antichrist issue," but, as far as Thiel's familiarity, looking up his endnotes and comparing with context gives me the strong impression he reads Strauss a bit lazily.

>>24513387
A lot of palantir guys, grunts who work there, are hiding after being shamed on twitter

>>24513387
>You think you've got this whole thing planned out, and that people are going to "see everything" and then it'll be over for the bad guys.
If not now, then on the day of judgement. Which I will also live to see.

In any case, the truth is the one thing these people will never be able to withstand. If they knew what was good for them, they would accede to the truth while they have the chance, rather than letting themselves be ground to dust by it. What I'm here doing is warning people. That's all. Maybe a bit of criticism here and there as well, shining a bit of exposing light on a few things. A few inconvenient facts. I would never kill anyone or advocate that kind of violence, because violence truly is not the answer. I hope you believe me when I say that because I am completely serious about that.

>And the real killers run software companies, serve in the IDF, or strap GoPro cameras to themselves before throwing grenades into someone's house in a kibbutz and put the footage onto the internet, and the ones who run the software companies see everything you're posting as well, so you can't really hide.
Dude, come on. You don't really know what you're talking about here. Stop pretending you do, for your own sake. I'm saying this as someone who wants to hopefully be your friend one day if possible.

>>24513031
It's almost like it's better. Although I'm sure you wh*toids would do fine with your crazy shit if you didn't have semitic desert demons infesting your society.

>>24513387
>You know all these natsocs who still deny the Holocaust?
It’s pretty much fake isn’t it? I’m not a nataoc at all, even Christopher Hitchens didn’t believe it. My evaluation of Hitler’s character, as basically Romantic mystic, doesn’t really make sense with “final solution” narrative. Am I wrong?
The Holocaust narrative us huge because it does justify in people’s minds Iran never getting the nuke, whatever the price. Because if the crazy German wanted to kill all Jews and barely failed, surely the crazy Iranian who funds terrorists will do the same (in peoples minds, its a reasonable thought process)

>>24513435
Most Israelis actually believe it they’re a highly brainwashed population

>>24513436
And neurotic.
I just get confused when strong anti-Zionists simultaneously believe the standard WW2 mythos. If I believed the Holocaust I would have be somewhat Zionist-sympathetic. Regardless of how annoying they are or how evil Israel, if there’s something special about them that makes people just want to wipe them out, you would feel nervous about their neighbors having nukes. Germany had one of the highest modern civilizations, and Hitler was a person of culture

>>24507059 (OP)
>International Communism and World Government is the pacing transnational threat

It's all well and good that he recognizes this is as much the Cold War hot continuation as WW2 was of Versailles-- but Standford is a notorious Maoist hive, and Karp's unabashed judeobolshevist bona fides do not inspire confidence.

>".... ahh... OVER DETERMINED .. uhh"

“Contradiction and Overdetermination”, Louis Althusser if I had to take an idiolect marker guess.

>>24508007
His evasive deportment immediately brings to mind Jordan Peterson's quibbling prevaricating non-answers. Ideal for ingratiating one's self among hand-wringing antichrists, wormlike cant to all appearances otherwise.

>>24513393
Watch this: https://youtu.be/vV7YgnPUxcU?si=VUADziYhp7wr_6j6&t=2737

>>24509696
>I don't understand how everybody hems and haws about how to respond to Nietzsche when simple Christians have always had the right answer: the empty tomb. This is the response to Nietzsche, and frankly the response to Thiel, too. Nietzsche simply proclaims himself an atheist

"‘only one man has understood me;’ but immediately afterwards he added with chagrin: ‘nor did he understand me neither.’" -- applies just as much to Nietzsche. Zarathustra's Apes abound. The Nazarene brought the good news-- and that was twisted into neurosis.

>>24510849
>There are no serious communists in America.

Seriousness is not required and that attitude is the real danger. Moscow & Beijing never wasted efforts ringleading infantile leftists, already doing their destabilization and subversive bidding-- Conversion requires neutering the opposition: it won't lead itself . . .

>>24513473
See the angle is war with China

>>24513448
Holocaust was just Jews killing the assimilated well-mannered Jews with their puppet. Hitler was a puppet just like Trump.
My friend's grandfather, who was CIA, basically verified that Christopher Jon Bjerknes' account of Hitler was pretty much accurate: he was a "moshiach" for the Jews much like Trump. Jews have historically persecuted their own for assimilating into gentile society, and in order to create higher Jew awareness, they have resorted to creating fake puppets who sometimes resort to slaughtering their own. This is why Jews sometimes promote antisemitism because they see assimilation and absorption into gentile society as the worst of all sins, which is evident in much of their scriptures.

>>24513567
this just seems paranoid

>>24513572
Nah, it's true. When my friend's grandfather, who I know without a benefit of doubt was CIA, argued this, I thought he was a schizo. Then I read Christopher Jon Bjerknes, and it was very close to what he argued.
I don't see how this is paranoid. There's a reason Jews haven't assimilate into European culture after thousands of years. It's because they have schizo beliefs that harshly condemn it. It's a lot like apostasy laws but applied on a more ethnoreligious level.

>>24513596
I’ve read about Hitler, he was Wagnerian/Schopenhauerian theosophist. It just doesn’t make sense to me (just my sense of his character). All these kind of alternative conspiracies I’ve heard ring false to me. Hitler is someone where you can say anything about him and people will believe you

>>24513607
>theosophist
Theosophists were always very much into Kabbalah. If it is true Hitler was a Theosophist, then that's better argument in my favor. Most of Western esotericism was unfortunately Messianic Jew crap.

>>24513614
Yeah there’s a letter from Yeats telling him to work with the Jews and pretend to slaughter them, Kabbalah says /s
The fact you don’t know this makes me think—know—you don’t have the knowledge to judge this matter
But yes the earliest iteration of NS was as theosophical society
There’s nothing really nefarious about theosophy—just kinda dumb

>>24513627
What's up with em dashes? Are you some kind of hasbara bot?

>>24513635
“The holocaust is real but the Jews orchestrated it and did it to themselves, Hitler is Jewish Messiah” isn’t the powerful narrative you think it is

>>24513656
Maybe the numbers of the Holocaust are exaggerated, but the rest is true. There is evidence for it, but you have to dig deep.
Jews noticed a lot of their kind were starting to assimilate into gentile society, which is considered one of the worst sins among themselves, so they paid Hitler to slaughter the assimilated Jews and create greater spite among their populations to fuel incentive to settle Israel and continue their criminal syndicate behavior across all nations.

>>24513661
This is just nonsense, and incomprehensible from a life-long Wagnerite
But believe what you want

man this prick is really shilling hard lately huh
very interesting how fast the miami police closed the case on his dead boyfriend

>>24513668
It's not belief, it's more like knowing. I don't have energy to get the evidence again. I may try to find it later. Regardless, the ones to suffer the most from WWII were Germans and Russians. Jews decades prior to WWII were begging for war between Germans and Russians, humorously enough.
Jewish hyperstitions and prophecy BS stemming from their Messianic myths are responsible for a lot of damage to the world.

>>24513668
>>24513680
You can start with these:

https://web.archive.org/web/20220519160729/https://humansbefree.com/2016/05/hitler-was-financed-by-the-federal-reserve-and-the-bank-of-england.html

https://www.globalresearch.ca/history-of-world-war-ii-nazi-germany-was-financed-by-the-federal-reserve-and-the-bank-of-england/5530318

>>24513683
Their betting on both teams doesn’t demonstrate anything

>>24513661
>>24513683
>so they paid Hitler to slaughter the assimilated Jews and create greater spite among their populations to fuel incentive to settle Israel and continue their criminal syndicate behavior across all nations.
I don't think they actually had that much foresight.

The whole gauntlet of what happened to Germany in the 20th century was something nobody beforehand could have predicted in detail. While zionists and bolsheviks did play some part in what happened, such as when the former some of them funded Hitler, they had no idea where things were really going, at least not until it all happened.

Most of this is not some grand conspiracy where everything was orchestrated to happen a certain way according to some specifically laid out and detailed plan. There is some of that going on, but mainly it's the art of pretending that you meant for all those things to happen after the fact. The purpose of this is to trick people into thinking you have far greater control of things than you actually do. It's kind of like the adage, "never let a disaster go to waste." People with wisdom can navigate unpredictable events and come out at the end pretending as if everything was planned. But that doesn't mean they planned for those events or caused them to happen. What we always find is that the real world is always far too unpredictable, at least when outside of carefully controlled lab experimentation. The narratives we come up with after the fact to explain why things happened are often plain false. Often times, people are just good at using various means of persuading you that they planned or caused certain events and knew exactly what was going to be the result of it.

This is important because perception, to a certain degree, becomes reality. If people think you control things, even when you don't, they are more likely to be influenced by your actions. OTOH, when the illusion of your control is broken, your influence can evaporate as people stop caring what you say or do.

In hindsight, a lot of this subtlety about how peoples' actions in history are influenced by these fleeting perceptions as they shift over time is also lost on us. Perceptions for most people back then were certainly totally different from what they are now. I do not think people at the time viewed the war through the same lens hardly anyone looks at it now. Hindsight always changes things in some way.

>>24513706
It goes deeper than that.
Whenever banking and big money are involved, there are powerful Jews like Haym Salomon (who financed American Revolution) and Rothschilds, and they did intermarry a lot with powerful Anglo families. I recommend reading Christopher Jon Bjerknes for more depth regarding Hitler as controlled op.

You don't get power without significant flow of money. Hitler was a puppet/front like Trump. Christianity is a dumb Jew worshiping tradition just like Islam is a golem slave religion, and they exist as controlled psyops for Jews to bring about the Messianic Age, which also ties into Transhumanism. It would have been best to abandon all Abrahamism, get rid of Jews, etc., but it's too late now with Palantir and the monopolization of data by these powerful evil families.

At this point, I promote giving up on the human species on its entirety and focusing on a solitary ascetic path.

>>24513683
Is this stuff from the wallstreet trilogy?

>>24513708
>I don't think they actually had that much foresight.
They did. They've had this planned since the 1800s. Before the 1800s, if you were caught reading the Talmud or Kabbalah, Jews would try to murder you. After all, they did things like poisoning European wells and abducting children to practice blood libel on. All of these "conspiracies" are true. Around the 1800s, this considered the beginning of like their prophetic age or something equivalent to that. Talmud and Kabbalah then became openly available to the masses, and this is around the time Marx suspiciously arose too. Both post-FED capitalism and communism are two sides of the same coin of Jewish domination, which has precedence in their looney schizo Messianic beliefs.
>The whole gauntlet of what happened to Germany in the 20th century was something nobody beforehand could have predicted in detail.
They were talking about it in Jew York Times in the very early 1900s.
>What we always find is that the real world is always far too unpredictable, at least when outside of carefully controlled lab experimentation.
When you have significant hold of the banks, you can easily control and manipulate the masses.
>OTOH, when the illusion of your control is broken, your influence can evaporate as people stop caring what you say or do.
Since 1800s, things have been falling into their global plan quite well.

>>24513724
schizo moment

>>24513741
Nothing is more schizo than this present time, which I predicted 1-2 years ago as wignats, Evolatards, and more bashed me. I warned you all something like Palantir was pulling the strings. I even referenced the nature of ML techniques, cloud technologies, and more. Now Trump is talking about denaturalizing and deporting those who say antisemitic or anti-Israel stuff as Palantir monopolizes our data more.
You should drop your attachment towards humanity and focus solely on spiritual concerns. This species is a wretched and irredeemable one. I do think some kind of variation of transmigration is true.
Most of our lives will end in complete misery. We will lose more freedom, we will lose more autonomy, and the elites will manufacture more scapegoats to conceal the sources of the issue. Being a humanist as this stage is complete folly.

The OG Deus Ex was right but everything except one important point: the center of data monopolization and global communication networks won't be Area 51 - it will be Israel/Jerusalem. This falls into both Messianic plan and the ultimate benefit of the technocratic elites. This is because Israel behaves like a criminal syndicate, both the people offshore and in the country. After all, they are number 1 in human and child trafficking, which is no conspiracy. They won't care at all about having psychological profiles and logs of all people that their automated bots that offer predictive models of threat level and model & forecast their behavior.

>>24513775
Some things OG Deus Ex got right:

1. Mass migration being used to destroy social cohesion.

2. Trilateral Commision handpicked presidents.

3. Taxes exist for social engineering and have increased to make populations more controllable and manipulable.

4. Rockefellers donated land of the UN.

5. The ubiquity of Freemasonry among the elites.

6. The use of fake pandemics to enforce draconian measures.

7. Creepy human-animal hybrid experiments like Plum Island.

8. The rise of China and weakening of America even though technocratic elite are globalist in nature.

... etc.

What Deus Ex got wrong:

1. Making Area 51 the final level and center of data monopoly and global communication network. No, the center would most likely be Israel/Jerusalem.

2. Human augmentation will look and proceed differently.

>ctrl + f "Sovereign Individual"
no results.

he wrote the forward for the newest edition you retards.

shit thread.

>>24507059 (OP)
The Very Hungry Catepillar

>>24513289
>But now if BOTH sides believe empathy is a sucker's game, and that the other side simply isn't worth listening to, how do we avoid flat-out war?
It'd be hard to even call it a war, the right would absolutely obliterate the left within a year (and I say this as a somewhat left-leaning person). The contemporary American left got their brains fried by Fukuyama and Clinton and abandoned the working class base that might otherwise fight for them in such a war. This isn't even getting into the anti-gun nonsense that has left them at the mercy of the right should civil war break out. They've abandoned the blue-collar workers of the Rust Belt and Appalachia, who might have actually provided a decent armed force in the case of civil war, in favor of coastal white-collar workers who are afraid of guns and various minority groups that statistically own far less guns than their white counterparts. Even the two largest "socialist" orgs, the CPUSA and DSA, are anti-gun. Who is capable of fighting for the left, both in ideology and in weaponry, besides a few tiny Maoist groups and maybe Vermont?

on that topic i think the remark has value that the dsa is hierarchical organization in part so thus the many conflicts i have dealing with that organization most of which was of me calling them bootlickers for which i apologize

>>24514573
>They've abandoned the blue-collar workers of the Rust Belt and Appalachia
but what has the right done for them that they would die for Trump in a war?
t. not familiar with internal US politics

>>24514626
Not much in terms of actual help, but the Right has attempted to court the Rust Belt and Appalachian workers through protectionism and moderating their previous anti-union stances, which has succeeded in swinging the Rust Belt and Appalachia towards the right. It also doesn't help that the left has embraced free trade and focused on stances like supporting gender ideology and gun control that alienate the workers in these states.

>>24514932
So essentially the liberals are fucked for the time being in the US. Had no idea that Americans hated the transgenders so much lol

>>24514953
Even supposedly liberal people in my area have so much tranny fatigue that it's not uncommon for a purple haired LGBT to say
>I support trans rights and all and trust me, I'm not transphobic but...
Transgenderism really overplayed itself. Corporate elites will need another decade to generation to successfully normalize trannyism, since there was such extreme pushback.

>>24507059 (OP)
The Torah

>>24508936
I've noticed this with Elon Musk too. Both him and Peter Thiel are put on pedestals as geniuses, as the brightest minds of our time, and yet they seem like the perfect representations of the Dunning Kruger effect. It appears that they read one book above the intellectual level of the slop of NY Time's best sellers and made it their entire world view. Their tunnel vision and hyper fixation on one idea (transhumanism / going to Mars) leaves them unable to articulate a coherent solution to any other problem, and they are on track to ushering in the Antichrist.

It sucks that our period has the gayest, most retarded, and most out of touch ruling class in history. We could've had a ruling class like the founding fathers, the Catholic Church, the national socialists, or even feudal kings. At least those people were all genuinely well-read and knew their constituency. At least it was funny seeing Thiel get directly called out for bringing the Antichrist and watching him struggle to respond.

>>24515796
I thought Musk was some kind of genius, I just knew about the cars which were really cool, this before ever hearing him speak. Now that he's become such an influential political figure I don't think most people think of him this way.

>>24515849
Elon really tried to cultivate the public image of him being the IRL Tony Stark, and for a while it worked, but since entering politics he has alienated both sides. He already pissed off the left to the point that they burn Tesla cars and spray paint swastikas, then a few months ago he angered the right with the Christmas H1B crashout. I don't know what the hell he's thinking but he's completely burned any goodwill that regularly people had for him, and now the only people who still support him are out-of-touch Silicon Valley tech bros and Indians here on H1B. The left wants to nationalize all his companies and the right wants to deport him lmao.

>>24515913
I assumed he was a genius engineer but sounds like he's just a businessman who stole Tesla from its founders. He did, one has to admit, get things done. So perhaps comparable but not nearly impressive as Steve Jobs. Jobs was a real genius (net evil) who created the modern world
There's this kind of this founders or entrepreneur cult that came to prominence sometime in the post war world... Its kind of the demented offspring of the 19th century romantic cult of artistic or scientific genius. But these are not admirable people for the most part

I think its because real genius mostly died out, or returned to previous levels
http://geniusfamine.blogspot.com

>>24515796
its for these very reasons we are brutally confronted by the prospect of totalitarianism under these retards, global collapse, or a final revolution. this entire paradigm as ran out of legitimacy and its just a corrupt set of institutions running on their own momentum

>>24514953
I think Americans have caught on to the concept of cultural subversion. Tranny acceptance is just the vanguard. It's not just Focus on the Family Bible thumpers who hate mainstream culture and see it as evil these days. It's the majority of young men.

>>24516167
tranny acceptance is fine, it's just the surrounding ecosystem of ideas they've made is fucked. for example in china with their highly conformist, purity driven culture you still see them accepting them out of basic decency and practical reasons.

>>24516179
No it isn't. It has opened the door to people interfering with children's normal hormonal development. Things that should have remained on the fringes of society are now being shoved into everyone's faces for the purpose of making it impossible to have a shared value system besides "people will pay for it so it must be okay" and that's the whole point.

TOTAL TRANNY DEATH

>>24507070
This. The problem is that these retards unironically believe that any tech they read about in NOOOOROMANCER can be made in real life if they try hard enough. They will use their influence to force AI/data slop up our asses until the wheels come off.

>>24516190
There are a lot of of effeminate, hysterical men out there who remind me of women; you are of them
>>24515972
>paradigm as ran out of legitimacy and its just a corrupt set of institutions running on their own momentum
Well said
>>24516194
Fortunately AI is a fraud and their plans will fail

>>24516275
Awwww somebody's a little sensitive and it ain't me. Stay mad, pussy.

>>24507059 (OP)
>Markets himself as Girard's greatest disciple
>reveals himself as a mask-off Girardian Antichrist after Girard dies and engaging in incredibly retarded mimetic rivalries
What did Thiel mean by this

>>24516419
what the fuck does any of this mean

>>24515796
It's funny: I've been following Pope Leo with a lot of interest, and it's striking to compare him to these tech guys because he really is clearly very smart and well-read, and you can tell, and the difference with somebody like Musk and Thiel is stark. You do know real erudition when you see it, as opposed to the pantomime of it.

>>24516608
It's all jargon but what that anon is saying is that Thiel is either a two faced rat hypocrite or retarded

>>24516275
>There are a lot of of effeminate, hysterical men out there who remind me of women; you are of them
That's not an argument.

>>24516419
I mean, he wouldn't be the first genuine student of philosophy to use what he learned for evil. Remember the Buzzfeed guy?

>>24509313
Good, libertarianism is not a real ideology, grow up and pick a real one.

>>24508062
ass being handed? seems like they mostly agreed with each other.
>>24512838
doesnt seem much of a debunking to me

>>24513448
If you were rational, believing the standard Holocaust mythos should make you indifferent to Zionism.

>>24516616
qrd on Pope Leon?

>>24507059 (OP)
IDK, but Dante actually coins the term "transhumanize" (in Italian of course) at the opening of the Paradiso to describe what he must achieve to ascend with Beatrice.

>>24517651
Leo XIV. First American Pope.

Math major in undergrad. Doctorate in Canon Law. Member of the Augustinian Order.

He loves to quote people in his speeches and addresses, mostly Augustine but a host of others. He quoted Cicero the other day. He's extremely well-read, it's obvious listening to him and reading his homilies.

>>24513435
I think Hitler was a Romantic character too, but yes I think the mass murder of Jews in Europe in the 1940s happened. We can talk about how that happened, and I do think there's a case for a critical examination of the Holocaust as a "myth" or how that's used or redeployed in the service of present-day politics (this is not unique to the Holocaust -- history has always been reinterpreted and redeployed in such ways, which is one reason why we also have historiography to also study that, like the study of "how history is written"). There's a particularly American version of this myth that is enshrined in Holocaust museums that teaches a lesson about the Holocaust that it's like racism and illiberalism and those things are bad, and don't be those things, or else you're a Nazi. I have some problems with this narrative. That said I don't like antisemitism either and think it makes people stupid, and I believe it's a symptom of failing societies and political movements, and serves as a mental block or cope for frustrations which are projected onto the Jew, but it doesn't have much to do with the Jews per se.

A lot of Israelis are descended from survivors, more than Americans. Basically in the 20th century the Jews got wiped out everywhere except for the U.S. and the ones in the east were drained to Israel, so Israel constitutes most of eastern Jewry at this point. The main thing is that I think the Israeli ones drew different (and much more chuddier) lessons compared to American Jews, who arrived earlier and were saved from destruction in the 20th century by American liberalism, so the American ones reached the conclusion they needed to double down on American liberalism. Most American Jews are actually not Holocaust survivors or directly descended from them. Now the gentile right has been questioning liberalism and directing some of their ire onto these American Jews, who are caught between these gentile rightists and a left that really hates Israel because the Israelis are chudded. So it's a real dilemma for them. But when I said Israeli-Zionism is more Nietzschean, I really mean that. Like this piece of propaganda is very sentimental but it's 100% serious, there's a part where the narrator says "we warn you" but they're not kidding:
https://youtu.be/lDcopmNc3xs

You heard BobVylan chanting "death to the IDF." That is provocative in Britain, but the Israelis hear that all the time. He's also not wrong. If you want to drive them into the sea, you do need to go through the IDF. But really the attitude is like "come try it" but otherwise most of them don't take that stuff seriously. I'm not necessarily talking about Israeli propaganda organs in English (which I think can be pretty cynical) but the average Israeli guy on the street. Like, it isn't a game. It's a country that has more or less been continuously at war for 70+ years. They're killers who dangled Egyptian corpses from helicopters as an intimidation tactic.

>>24514573
>Even the two largest "socialist" orgs, the CPUSA and DSA, are anti-gun. Who is capable of fighting for the left, both in ideology and in weaponry, besides a few tiny Maoist groups and maybe Vermont?
Right, yeah. Nah, there's not going to be a civil war. In the short-term what you might get is a more progressive turn in the Democratic Party in 2028 because there's a larger base for it now than when Bernie was running, and the Republican austerity budget is about to fuck up people's Medicare. So something could happen there. But it's always funny when some Republican senator brings up the PSL as some mastermind behind the ICE protests or whatever because they have the signs. It's like oh my God these people must be really well organized! But it only looks like that because in a major city there might be 30 members of the PSL, and they're the ones with the signs, so they jump on anything that looks like a happening and the crowd follows them. But that is like the bare semblence of an organization. In reality I don't think anybody in American politics has some big organization or well thought-out plan.

>>24517880
>I think Hitler was a Romantic character too, but yes I think the mass murder of Jews in Europe in the 1940s happened.
6 million, though?

>>24517900
Which is why IF we get a Caesar or Napoleon type figure he's going to sweep a lot of people under his banners really quickly. There's basically nothing standing in his way, not on the Left and not on the Right. Look at how Trump basically generated legions out of nothing, sort of. Someone greater than Trump, mightier than Trump, could do it to an even greater degree. A Caesar-type figure would basically be an invasive species in the United States that would run absolutely wild.

>>24517904
Yeah give or take.

>>24517916
The math doesn't check out.

>>24517880
>That said I don't like antisemitism either and think it makes people stupid, and I believe it's a symptom of failing societies and political movements, and serves as a mental block or cope for frustrations which are projected onto the Jew, but it doesn't have much to do with the Jews per se.
Antisemitism can be good, actually. When they are the problem, that is (as it's been the case sometimes).

>>24517926
(contd)
However when they aren't the actual problem, you're just wasting your time and screaming to the void.

surprised that the currently most evil individuals aren't ((())) but two white immigrants and one orange fellow, wtf happened to this board?

>>24517922
Doesn't strike me as unbelievable. You shoot a bunch with death squads in Ukraine and Belarus, starve / work a bunch of others to death, and then crash-murder another million or two at the extermination camps in Poland in 1944. It adds up pretty quickly.

The main thing is, why be a Nazi if you don't want to do that? Like nobody actually believes you guys are being honest about this. The next post is someone basically calling for state violence directed at the Jews. Or maybe you're not being honest with yourself, or what you really want. You're not operating in good faith so it's pointless to debate. That's why the Israelis won't argue with you, or try to reason with you like these American Jews. They learned a different lesson which is to get tooled up and shoot back at people who want to destroy them. This also goes back to what I was saying earlier, the difference between killers today is that they don't hide what they do. ISIS for example would film themselves and upload footage of themselves shooting prisoners en masse and burning them alive. The Nazis did try to hide it.

>>24517947
>Trump
>evil

Even people who don't like him admit he's funny and charming and charismatic.

>>24517959
nta but a person can be funny and evil. There's no contradiction.

>>24517959
that doesn't make him less evil, /lit/ has dedicated threads that reach 300 replies arguing about the death of liberalism as the worst crime happening today

>>24517880
Pseud hasbara propaganda.

>>24517951
A question for you anon, do you believe jews as a group have ever been in the wrong? In the various conflicts they have had with other groups were they ever at fault, even partly at fault?

>>24517951
That's why what Jews in Israel are doing against the Palestinians is worse (in spirit) than the Holocaust. Deep down, Nazis knew what they were doing was wrong, that's why they hid it. Meanwhile Israel carries out their genocide in front of the entire world, publicly and in 4K, with cheerleading from their American and German puppets, and with far more inhuman methods.

Jews love killing children and animals. Why else would they target and kill prized purebred Persian horses in Iran? What benefit was there, on the Israeli side, to kill prized Persian horses? It's because Jews love killing, they are sadistic insentient freaks without any qualia or consciousness.

Verily, Kourosh/Cyrus made a mistake freeing such "people," and one day hopefully his tomb is "decorated" with or without the IRI. Hadrian had the right approach unlike Kourosh/Cyrus' "virtue signaling."

>>24517998
They won't admit to ever doing anything wrong. Although statistically speaking, if you get spelled from different places by people from different cultures, ethnicities, religions and eras, chances are you are the problem. I don't buy the "we're always just an escape goat" argument, it's not statistically plausible.

Jews love killing children and animals. Why else would they target and kill prized purebred Persian horses in Iran? What benefit was there, on the Israeli side, to kill prized Persian horses? It's because Jews love killing, they are sadistic insentient freaks without any qualia or consciousness. Also, during this time, many hasbara freaks were gleefully posting pictures of dead Iranian/Persian children.

Verily, Kourosh/Cyrus made a mistake freeing such "people," and one day hopefully his tomb is "decorated" with or without the IRI. Hadrian had the right approach unlike Kourosh/Cyrus' "virtue signaling.

I think what the Nazis did was evil but I also think what Zionists are doing is evil. Both had their own ways of justifying their massacres but in the end, they are truly just evil and no amount of propaganda can change that.

>>24518080
The six million number was an exaggeration, and NYT was babbling about it early 1900s.
Nazis were financed by Jews to kill their own assimilated kind as a kind of quasi-eugenics program.

>>24518080
The oppressed becomes the oppressor. Tale as old as time.

>>24517951
>This also goes back to what I was saying earlier, the difference between killers today is that they don't hide what they do. ISIS for example would film themselves and upload footage of themselves shooting prisoners en masse and burning them alive.
Only if they have immunity given to them by powerful countries. You hit the nail, actually, both the Israeli army and ISIS are part of the same team and both are terrorists.

Here's a Sufi story about a Zoroastrian and Jew:

>In the Secret of Secrets, a story of a Zoroastrian and a Jew... The Zoroastrian was riding on a mule and carrying ample provisions. The Jew was walking and bereft of provisions. The Zoroastrian asked the Jew about his faith. The Jew described his faith and declared that it was lawful for him to shed the blood and take the possessions of non-Jews. The Jew in turn asked the Zoroastrian about his faith. The Zoroastrian declared that he wished well to all persons... The Jew then asked to the Zoroastrian to give him food, drink, and to let him ride on the mule. The Zoroastrian did so. The Jew then galloped off on the Zoroastrian’s mule. The Zoroastrian, alone, without provisions, feared that he would die. He prayed to God for justice. The mule then bucked off the Jew and grievously injured him. When the Zoroastrian came upon the mule and the Jew, the Zoroastrian re-mounted and started to ride off. The Jew pleaded for pity and help. The Zoroastrian picked up the Jew and carried him to the city. There the Zoroastrian placed the Jew in the care of his relatives.

My commentary: The Zoroastrian was acting based on "false compassion". Zoroastrians stupidly saw frogs, snakes, scorpions, water-rats, etc. as "creatures of druj," and they had rituals where they would massacre water-rats en masse. The reality is that frogs, snakes, water-rats, and scorpions are sentient beings with rich internal mental lives. Can we say the same for Jews? No, Jews are malignant and insentient puppets animated by dark Saturnian forces that only seek to destroy and corrupt. The Zoroastrian would have been better off to realize it is, in fact, Jews that are the incarnations of Angra Mainyu and get rid of him there and then in righteous purification.

>>24507293
Oh no not the human race. Have you seen the state of it lately? Anyone who is still ascribe to any humanistic worldview is evil unironically

>>24518343
He's not advocating ecological responsibility and low population for the sake of the planet at large. He's building a fucking surveillance state goy plantation for power and profit.

>>24518361
This. However, we already have the surveillance state goy plantation, but they will just be a bit more open about it from now. I won't be surprised if antisemites start mysteriously disappearing given the direction we're heading.
Taking the most pessimistic conclusion about those in power typically turns out true and given that those in power now have highly advanced data surveillance techniques, drones, and more, then one can effectively conclude that nothing we do will make a difference and will wind up being infiltrated or subverted somehow. There is a reason Klaus Schwab said, "data is the new gold." A deep learning model is as good as the data used to train, validate, and test it.

Very simple stuff most retards don't seem to get. Human species has turned into an abysmal failure, and it's no coincidence that the worse someone is, the more Jewish they come off.

>>24507319
I knew the antichrist is female. Checks out honestly. Don't like the fact she's autistic though.

>>24507909
Then who's on the side of good? Billions of unremarkable schizos?

>>24518080
>>24518092
>>24518096
>>24518008
The Holocaust was fake and Hitler was a hero (in the Carlylian sense). If you beleiev it, or bizzarely claim it was a good thing or not that bad, you are no better than any subversive Jew

>>24518415
Those who choose to follow Christ and live my love

>>24518411
The biblical Antichrist figure is called the man of sin and the man of perdition, he's specifically always referred to as male. But it also says that there are "many antichrists" in the sense that whoever denies Christ is an antichrist. In that sense it can be men or women.

"Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time."
(1 John 2:18)

"Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son."
(1 John 2:22)

"For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist."
(2 John 1:7)

>>24518432
elaborate on the second thing

>>24518439
>>24518440
Stop obsessing about a Jew. At this point they can fake the Second Coming, and you retards will fall for it.

Ancient Pre-Socratics like Empedocles, Heraclitus, Pythagoras, Anaximander, and Parmenides were all more interesting, spiritual, and honest than fucking Jewsus. Grow the fuck up. Jewsus is not coming back. It's just Jew fiction. You have no excuse for still follow Abrahamic shit. You were most likely born in a higher-developed Western civilization with access to copious resources, both online and offline, so there's no excuse for still fixating on a stupid fucking Jew. Jews have always been a vile, lying, and deceptive peoples. It's best to have nothing to do with any tradition derived from them, including Islam and Christianity.

>>24518477
>Jews have always been a vile, lying, and deceptive peoples.
Those who claim to be Jews today are not connected to the ancient Jews.

>>24518483
I agree Ashkenazi do not have matrilineal continuity to ancient Levantine Jews, but I do think the Mizrahi and Sephardic most likely do. Regardless, they are all deceptive, disgusting freaks. Jews since the time of Ancient Egypt have been hated for a reason. They were always a schizophrenic and genocidal peoples, and their ideas simply don't stand up to modern scrutiny. It's just hyperstitions and Messianic lunacy (e.g., spotless red heifers, Third Temple, etc.)

The Ancient Greeks were *largely* an honest and admirable peoples. They didn't fixate on Messianic apocalypticism or "the world to come".

>>24518493
They're really not all that bad lol. They are mostly just unreasonable when it comes to jew-gentile conflicts but some will try to be diplomatic at least.

>>24518504
>just unreasonable when it comes to jew-gentile conflicts
so everything lol

>>24518504
The ancient Greeks were spiritually and philosophically more impressive. Messianism and delusions of a linear eschatology do not withstand modern scrutiny. Someone like Heraclitus or Parmenides *do* withstand modern scrutiny. You can still derive meaning in life without believing in a Jew or that God's plan involves stuff like a savior arrive during an apocalypse. I'm not a nihilistic materialistic either. Even Plotinus' Neoplatonism is not bad. When intelligent, you'll invariably come across the Greeks. When dumb, you'll most like dwell in dumb Abrahamic or Messianic shit.

>>24518533
X does not withstand modern scrutiny, Y does withstand modern scrutiny.
I can translate this directly. It means that X is made fun of on nightly television shows and similar stuff, while whatever Y is avoids getting the same negative attention, however irrational or unfair the negative attention is. Believing in something that is maligned in mainstream media is hard or makes me sad, therefore X is false.

Some people, especially those who really have a need to fit in and avoid difficult situations or confrontations, do get trapped by this fallacy and therefore decide to take an easy way out. This is true even though it's just a matter of what the mainstream decides to promote or to malign today, since the parameters of what one needs to believe (and avoid believing) to successfully continue to fit in could change tomorrow.

>>24517914
I wish, the West has never needed a Caesar more. Stabilize foreign relations, expunge the 5th columnists, prevent totalitarianism while still having an iron hand in gloves of silk.

>>24519244
>expunge the 5th columnists
how?

>>24519247
Exile all zionists to Israel, send the extra-uppity ones to an Alaskan tundra prison. Simple.

>>24519254
Israel would probably try to nuke the US if they did this kek

>>24519260
I'm sure the US navy is tracking or capable of tracking Israel's puny submarine fleet 24/7 and can smite the rest of their nuclear arsenal if needed. We shouldn't let this demonic moloch worshipping nation terrorize the West anymore.

>>24518457
The dead can come back to life and the unbelievers (certain hebrews included) will still deny Christ

>>24519313
>jewish zombie believer
hellenized platonic-jews realized the infinite depths of human stupidity and gullibility and make the most successful false religion in human history to capitalize off it.

>>24518477
Nice try Schmul Cohen

>>24507059 (OP)
Isn't this the guy who want to be Sauron? Well best of luck turning California into Mordor.

>>24519679
techbros are obsessed with lotr and tolkien.

>>24519684
Uh, did someone check on a grave in Oxford? Because it either be spinning or empty if this continues.

>>24519244
Keep the faith, friend. A great man, greater than Trump, will arise in our hour of need.

He may very well be posting on this board. Maybe even in this thread.

>>24519684
>Palantir, Anduril, Erebor

>>24519850
This is absolutely true, and has always been the case. If it wasn't for great men (and especially poets, it is impossible to calculate the positive good of men such as Shakespeare and Dante, regardless is many people read them) God would have ended the world a long time ago
>greater than Trump
Trump isn't great, but he did good, perhaps mostly by accident, though who's to judge

>>24519244
>posts a jihadi-loving retarded US general
Kys.

>>24507059 (OP)
My diary

>>24519850
What faith are you keeping?

the more i read of this fuck the more i get the impression he is an uberpseud

i agree with much of his beliefs but his autism is more of a handicap than something that makes him a philosopher-king

he has no vision

>>24518533
>>24518533
Heraclitus only exists in fragments and quotes, which enables contrarians to fill in the blanks and steelman him to silly degrees, even though the refutations offered by Aristotle are more than likely enough to counter everything that Heraclitus actually did write and believe.

>>24521623
A lot of them are just Nietzsche fags who are notoriously superficial about philosophy. They unironically just like the aesthetics of "movement" in some vague vitalist way. It's not a serious engagement with metaphysics

>>24509197
>Live in obviously demonic times with no illusions to the contrary
>"Wtf?? Why are people talking about demons???"
Ngmi desu

>>24507059 (OP)
Jesus Christ
/lit/ is dead, has been dead since the blackout of 2025
Nevertheless the clickbait thread is soon to reach the bump limit due to basement dwelling npcs that are activised by (((jewtube))) slop on p*ther thi*l's self aggrandizement.
The guy is a massive faggot.
If you want to vibe with the tide, just read the unreserved qualifications by Mencius cumbug .
If you want the true blessing for the soul , you should read at least 5 of Girards books. But you won't BC you are too busy becoming the born again "Christian" just like p*ter thi*l BC oh you know it's so trendy, everyone s doing it now.
It won't change your mind even if I told you sn*wden was right and the rabbit hole is glowing with the spectrum of hard xrays , the rays of darkness of Epsteinian grade.
Enjoy your shadows on the wall, suckers.

>>24507165
Jewish

>>24513572
>>24513607
Don't know much about the stuff other anon is talking about, but Israel supporting its own persecutors is well documented.
Netanyahu's administration specifically boosted Hamas in the years leading up to the Gaza conflict, so they could incite the Palestinians enough to give Israel an excuse to purge them

>>24521623
>>24521636
The fragments of Empedocles are worth more than the entirety of Christcuck literary corpus. His relatively recently uncovered fragments are a level above the Gospels.

>>24521636
Jerking off about Heraclitus makes total sense for Nietzsche. His whole style is to speak in aphorisms, because the ubermensch defines his own meaning and fills the blanks in himself blah blah blah. But for everybody else, I just don't buy it. You have what? A few dozen pages of fragments?

I will give big credit to Nietzsche though, that style just doesn't do anything for me when anybody else does it. It's like how dialogues don't work as well when anybody other than Plato does them.

>>24522013
I have a very love hate relationship with Nietzsche. I've read nearly all his books, some multiple times, and even some early essays, because the way he writes is just so engaging and makes me have very fertile thought processes. But when I stop and think about how the different parts of his thought hang together(or don't), or when I talk to people who are big fans of his, I just get incredibly annoyed. Like I get unironically angry about it, it's very spergy I have to admit.

>>24518477
>>24519320
>Extreme vitriolic subhuman seethe
>Giving his opinion on depth of character, spirituality, and honesty
Many such cases on this dogshit site

>>24507059 (OP)
Nick Land quite obviously

>>24507059 (OP)
The Art of Sucking Dick by Doctor Jordan B. Peterson

>>24522835
The subhuman is you. You simultaneously hate Jews yet worship one. Not everyone is a slave to their cultural conditioning like you.

>>24513567
>>24513572
>>24513596

>>24522835
>load_boot: Golem_OS
>load_sub-program: system auto-defense mechanism
>generate response: denial of operating system origins and authorship via accusation of subhumanism and projection of golems enragement

>>24507059 (OP)
why would anyone take this literal fag seriously?

>>24524725
You have to pretend guys who run glownigger front companies are misunderstood geniuses because otherwise what they're doing looks seedy and criminal.

>>24521736
We've been having threads more or less like this for at least a decade at this point. I don't see what's particularly egregious about this one? /lit/ has basically spent the entire Trump Era trying to hash out "what it all means," since we're the philosophy board and also we're smarter than /pol/.

>>24517934
>when they aren't the actual problem
give an example

peter if you are in this thread or just reading it i hope you know that God will smite you with a major solar flare the moment you try to upload your mind into super intelligence AI agent

>>24525304
yes. perhaps that is my destiny.

>>24525306
Go fuck your current twink and enjoy yourself before your date with destiny comes

Thiel and his ilk will spur massive development in the biotech and gene editing sectors, eventually leading to genuine transhumanism and artificial evolution. At the same time, they and their shadowy benefactors will dabble with things not to be named and come face to face with the blunt fact of their own damnation. With the sure knowledge of their future, they will aggressively pursue lifespan-extending technology and ultimately discover various ways to become "immortal" (though not in the ordinary sense of the word), while also discovering troubling things behind the curtains of our reality. Ultimately, they will discover that they can avoid damnation by sealing the world against what lies Outside, and that to do so, they must bring the population below 144,000. Thus begins the construction of a doomsday device, designed both to close the gates of earthly existence to what lies beyond and to snuff out almost all human life, which some refer to as a No-God...

>>24507222
didn't penniston make up the binary story after people lost interest in the original story

>>24525519
>Flavortown was the heart of the deep state the whole time

>>24525089
He's just a fag who made a lucky bet that got him a lot of money.