I'm an ESL and found the English translation of St. Augustine's Confessions by Henry Chadwick (Oxford University Press) quite hard to read. Is there an easier translation? Is there a consensus on the best translation of this work?

How do I decide between Henry Chadwick, Albert C. Outler, F. J. Sheed, Garry Wills, Peter Constantine, R. S. Pine-Coffin, Sarah Ruden, Thomas Williams, Hal M. Helms and Edward Bouverie Pusey?

>>24508183 (OP)
read Ben Klassen.

>>24508183 (OP)
Why don’t you just read it in your native language? Or better yet, in Latin

>>24508229
Because there is no proper ebook in my language available and I don’t want to buy it

>>24508183 (OP)
Git gud or read in your mother tongue.
t. ESL, fresh off of the Oxen of the Sun rollercoaster

>>24508183 (OP)
https://tonyreinke.com/2017/07/07/augustines-confessions-a-translation-comparison/

>>24508183 (OP)
You don't need a translation, just read it in the original English.

>>24508255
It was written in Italian dumbass

>>24508254
Does a native speaker know what concupiscence means?

Frank Sheed's rendering is class. It's just the candid words of a Saint right there on the page.

>>24508266
99% don't

>>24508257
Nigger it was Esperanto (the universal language)

>>24508308
It was ywriten in Middel Englissh, thou dronkelewe nyce

>>24508183 (OP)
What language do you speak that there is no translation of this critical theological treatise?

Are you Indian?

>>24508449
German and there are countless translations, just no good epubs from reputable publishers for some reason.

>>24508466
>German
NTA. The German Church is in a pretty bad situation right now, but how is the availability of Catholic translated material in Germany? Is it really bad?

There is nothing in print either?

(as in, are there good translations of Aquinas, of the Carmelite Saints, Garrigou Lagrange, etc?)

>>24508521
It's not good, but if you are willing to buy second hand, you can get lots of stuff over zvab.com

>>24508266
There's an idea of "Catholic English," which contains a smattering of Latin-derived words that we would never use otherwise, like "concupiscence" or "contrition."

>>24508527
Aquinas's Latin is very simple. If you just want a window into what Aquinas said without expending a lot of effort, use a translation, but if you're seriously interested in Aquinas, you should really learn Latin, and use translations only as an aid to understanding with the goal in mind of improving your Latin. (Bearing in mind that translations are always imperfect in greater or lesser degrees.)

>>24508308
Esperanto wasn't invented yet in Augustine's time. Plus he was African, so he would have written in Swahili.

>>24508561
I think those terms are actually useful for those who study theology.
And at least this is easier than Thomism in that the terms sometimes have different meanings from what we are used to.
Formal, potency, act, actual

>>24508589
But most people who read the Confessions don't study theology, right? You could have just put it in a footnote, if that specific term is so important.

>>24508466
>German
did you not go to a Gymnasium?

>>24508619
>>24506788

>>24508183 (OP)
My best recommendation is to read Rex Warner's translation. Forget about the others.

>>24508639
Only available as pdf

>>24508648
There's also the physical edition. What's the issue with pdf?

>>24508654
Can't read pdf on my e-reader

>>24508233
Get it from a library, then, you retard. What a moronic thread.

>>24508661
Google "convert pdf to epub" and use one of those websites.

>>24508233
What do you mean by 'proper' ebook? What's your native language?

>>24508466
If there are no 'good' epubs, is there any reason you can't read a crappy PDF or TXT, so long as the text itself is correct?

>>24508466
You are German. Avoid Augustine and read Luther instead as you were born to do. Or commit to the LARP and learn Latin. Cosmopolitanism got you into this mess in the first place, and a bunch of Zainichi Kankokujin LARPing as Rednecks and African-Americans on a Mongolian basket weaving forum won't make it any easier for you.

I love it when someone makes a dry joke and a bunch of autistics get riled up and start arguing with the guy as if it was said in earnest

that's the best version, it's just an old book