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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 11:28:10 AM No.24513872
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Do you like Goethe or is he overrated? In Germany he's regarded as the greatest author who has ever written in the German language.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 11:39:01 AM No.24513892
Wasn't really wowed by The Sorrows of Young Werther but planning to give it another chance in the future. I think Goethe himself didn't love it either
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 11:41:18 AM No.24513896
>>24513892
I recently read Anton Reiser by Karl Philipp Moritz and it he said this book influenced a whole generation of young men back then.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 12:22:51 PM No.24513951
>>24513896
Yes, I believe yellow trousers and suicide became a trend for them
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 2:06:56 PM No.24514097
>>24513872 (OP)
>In Germany he's regarded as the greatest author ever
Fixed it.
And they are right
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 2:16:19 PM No.24514122
>>24514097
Do you speak German?
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 3:53:25 PM No.24514270
>>24513892
He hated it and couldn't believe it even drove people to suicide, so much that he rewrote it in a much subdued fashion. Ultimately he thought that was all he'll be known for and didn't like it, little did he know Faust was to be released posthumously and become the thing he's really known for.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 4:04:33 PM No.24514310
>>24514270
When's the last time you considered suicide because of a book? Must be powerful shit.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 4:06:51 PM No.24514320
>>24514310
At the time, we are different now, consider that back in the day they would exchange letters that would take weeks or months to arrive. Nowadays, dudes instant message multiple girls at the same time, it is different.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 4:13:46 PM No.24514342
>>24514320
You could just go talk to her
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 4:22:31 PM No.24514369
>>24513872 (OP)
I've read Faust and found it too baroque and tryhard to like it. Haven't read Werther yet. Might give Faust another opportunity since I've bought Mann's Doktor Faustus and it might be good to compare both
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 4:28:51 PM No.24514398
>>24514342
Yes, but it is not like young people would be free to go wherever they felt like going. Times were different.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 4:43:00 PM No.24514431
>>24514369
>I've read Faust and found it too baroque and tryhard to like it
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 6:27:16 PM No.24514660
>>24514310
I've been considering suicide before starting to read books, but Thus Spoke Zarathustra really had an effect on me. Now it's chronic. And honestly, Werther's Sorrows reads more like a NTR doujin than a story that's really going to weigh me down to the point of considering suicide.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 6:30:57 PM No.24514668
>>24514660
Great post that illustrates why nobody should read Nietzsche.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 8:00:38 PM No.24514860
>>24514310
Over Tristan und Isolde, that's all I can think of at the moment.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 8:09:42 PM No.24514873
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 1:13:48 AM No.24515759
>>24513872 (OP)
I like Goethe. From what I have heard about how people have described him, he's regarded as being in the same vein of being a Confucius or a Plato but for the modern west. I rate him high but maybe Germans are probably sick of the glazing. But I do like how he had already created works in the 18th century that talked about 21st century issues (technology, social alienation, existentialism, cultural relativism, etc.)