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>“Are you a man? Then play your part as a man. Is it your role to marry, to raise children, to take part in public life? Then do so.” - Epictetus
>“What was Socrates like? He married, raised children, served in the army, and joined in public affairs... All this he endured with dignity, and yet he never ceased to study philosophy.” - Epictetus
No wonder philosincels like Nietszche or Schopenhauer and their deranged followers hated stoics so much.
Having a fit body, having children and being a useful member of society should be a standard requirement for being taken serious.