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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:58:17 AM No.24516339
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I must confess I know nothing about modern sculpture nor about art in general. Do you think the book Modern Sculpture: A Concise History by Herbert Read is a good start for a person like me?
I'm also planning to order Historical Grammar of the Visual Arts by Alois Riegl, and something by Erwin Panofsky or Ernst Gombrich.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:18:44 AM No.24516376
Just one bump before bed.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:31:09 AM No.24516403
>>24516339 (OP)
ive come to appreciate more modern art after studying graphical composition and color application for my own (not yet good) art
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:34:49 AM No.24516406
>>24516339 (OP)
I think I wish listed this awhile I'm gonna check
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:34:56 AM No.24516408
>>24516339 (OP)
Modern Art is the true litmus test. You really need a higher artistic sensibility to truly get it. Low IQ retards will keep preferring naturalistic representative art because than can't into abstraction.

By the way, pic related looks like a great book, I'm going to try it
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:36:43 AM No.24516412
>>24516339 (OP)
I think it's best to start with studying traditional art and its eternal standards of quality. The avant garde always defines itself as avant garde, it is permanently so, and that is its greatest flaw. I'm not an anti-modernist in the slightest, but the avant garde just doesn't offer a bedrock education by which to appreciate art. For example, you can study Phidias and Michelangelo, and learn enough about sculpture to then appreciate Brancusi and Moore, but I don't think you can study Brancusi and Moore and learn enough from them to appreciate Phidias and Michelangelo. What makes the avant garde interesting is its relation to what it reacts against.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:39:39 AM No.24516417
>>24516339 (OP)
Just learn to draw? You can even take a sculpting class. Usually with clay or something similar.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 9:56:55 AM No.24516768
>>24516408
>Modern Art is the true litmus test. You really need a higher artistic sensibility to truly get it. Low IQ retards will keep preferring naturalistic representative art because than can't into abstraction.
If art is simply about aesthetics, (whether “pleasant” aesthetics, or “ugly” aesthetics, or other aesthetics), the average person with decent sight, should not need a “high artistic sensibility”, to “get it”, since that average person has spent his whole life “looking at things”.
Plenty of modern art sucks.
Plenty of modern art is also single tiered, with little meaning below the surface.
A lot of art, whether modern abstract art, or older representational art, is not “single tiered”, and gas a huge amount of meaning hidden within the imagery, with different levels of meaning, however, a person routinely needs a wide breadth of reading, and visual experience, and cultural knowledge, to understand many of those different tiers of meaning, and most people, don’t have that.
This isn’t necessarily the observer’s fault.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:54:29 PM No.24517328
>>24516408
The Knifegrinder by Malevich opened my eyes to modern art, I saw that painting and something changed inside of me because I started to get it.
I still don't understand contemporary art.
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 3:09:20 AM No.24519176
The last bump.