How are we supposed to cope with this

by releasing that they wouldn't have been lost if they were that great

IIRC even among the later Greeks those other poems were not that interesting compared to the bible-tier importance of those two

Aristotle gave negative reviews to the non-Homeric epics, as preserved in the surviving part of Poetics

The traditional cope is to say that they weren‘t as good. Personally I get big "only listen to their early stuff" vibes from this—that is—parochial favoritism for the more familiar.

>>24517302 (OP)
the other parts weren't that good

>>24517302 (OP)
All art, everything, must finally fall in war, or wear away into the ultimate and universal ash.

>>24517307
not true

The Iliad and Odyssey we have aren't the "real deal" anyway, oral epics vary wildly every time they're told since no one can perfectly memorize that many lines, so what we have is just a couple of signings that could've been warped beyond recognition by time

Be grateful you have anything from the classical world at all. if you knew anything about the papyrus and manuscript tradition you would realize how special they are.
Epitomes exist
There is more than enough material in Greek and Latin to last your lifetime

We should lose the Iliad on purpose for future generations, as a joke

>>24517508
Yeah exactly. Most people willingly go their whole life without reading even Homer. That includes most people in this thread.

>>24517302 (OP)
By blaming the jews

>>24517379
>The traditional cope is to say that they weren‘t as good
It's obviously not cope. The Classics like Plato are bursting with quotations from Homer, but barely any quotations from the non-Homeric epics.

>>24517701
Why did Homer choose to incorporate his work into such a mid universe then, why make references to the Trojan horse if the work it's from isn't very good

>>24517752
He doesn't. The Trojan Horse - according to the Odyssey, not the Iliad, the instrument of Troy's capture - was, Pausanias says, a simple siege engine (perhaps a scaling tower faced with wet horse-hides as a protection against fire) rather than a secret receptacle for armed Greeks.

>>24517386

ChatGPT finish the Homeric epics, but featuring big tiddy anime girls.

>>24517932
Did you just google what I said? Or did you actually recognise that turn of phrase

>>24517953
I recognized it.

>>24517971
But then your best response was still the mahhh the french outtakes?
You watched F for Fake but still can't hold a conversation about the artist Orson Welles or what?

When I hear the part about amazon queens showing up to help the Trojans I roll my eyes. Thank goodness these parts were lost

>>24517982
the iliad is still matriarchal in origin. still starts off 'sing to me, o goddess'.

>>24517302 (OP)
By having AI recreate them

>>24517932
ooh, looks like suntory time

>>24518020
deep cut

>>24517976
>But then your best response was still the mahhh the french outtakes?

You may not like it, but he outperformed the fuck out of you.

>>24518109
eh?

>>24518020
Yeah I had to look this one up, may watch that one later

>>24517982
But she actually gets insta-merced by Achilles.

>>24517302 (OP)
drinking whisky

>>24517612
That would be hilarious

>>24517302 (OP)
I'm working on editing together transltions of all the summaries and tesimonia of the lost epic cycle. I've never seen it done before, which is surprising, the Loeb editions come closest which have the summaries of Proclus with some extra details from Apollodorus, but there's much more than what's found in those two sources.

Just finished the Cypria, which chronologically comes before the Iliad. It's probably the best-attested one, so I was able to create a pretty full narrative that leads directly into the wrath of Achilles. The three epics between the Iliad and Odyssey will be difficult because they overlap in subject matter, so later authors either conflated them together or cut out the parts that contradict when they summarised them. I'm using mostly public-domain translations so I should be able to post them freely online.

I'm really peeved Emperor Claudius's 8-part autobiography didn't survive to this day and we only have Robert Graves's fanfic

>>24519966
>I'm really peeved Emperor Claudius's 8-part autobiography didn't survive to this day and we only have Robert Graves's fanfic
But Robert Graves inserted sex-cult female goddess sacrifice sexual porn. Robert Graves is basically the Werewolf Omegaverse of classicism. That's why Robert Graves is Great.

>>24519966
He also wrote a lost 20 book history of the Etruscans, who we know very little about.

>>24517302 (OP)
Thank god the Telegonia is gone.

>>24517992
Yes, the goddess in question being the Muse Calliope, who all poets praised to for inspiration, who they also directly refer to as the daughter of Zeus. You must be a retard who knows nothing about Greek poetry.

>>24519966
I, Claudius is kino, though.

You say oh well and go read something else.

>>24517302 (OP)
Cope with what? It's all made up bullshit. History is a total lie. Show me photographic evidence that Homer ever existed. You can't.

>>24517612
Post tits.

I hope when we die we can kind of spectate the world in a way and learn about everything that has happened not only on earth but the universe. You can end it whenever you want or you can stay as long as the universe goes on.

>>24520615
Sounds gay, I prefer Plato's myth of Er where you get to choose your reincarnation.

>>24517302 (OP)
>>24517307
>>24517315

So the modern equivalent of this would be thousands of years from now people only having access to Rocky 1&4? nice

>>24521122
Rocky or rick and morty season 3.
Nice wubbalubbadubdubs btw.

>>24520615
Hot diggity dayumn you know I gon' be spyin' on some hottie big booty alien hoochie mamas on the shower when I croak!

>>24521235
Woahhh. I never knew hoochie mama was an actual term, I thought my family just made it up