>everyone has a job
>everyone has a house
>everyone knows what is expected of them and indeed has been raised to be happy with their lot
>no "grindset mindset" required
>society is harmonious
>no culture war or demographic replacement
>everyone has sex, no hypergamy or gender wars
>people who don't fit in get to go to their own private artists outlet

Oh no. The horror. The Boomers' neoliberalism literally made a world worse than all their dystopias.

It was the "savages" or christcucks, that's what the story is about, they've ruined the world and they'll ruin a utopia too.

>>24517731 (OP)
>read this book
>it's fascinating
>read Island in which Huxley tries to present his vision of an actual utopia
>it's boring
>drop it halfway through
What explains this?

>>24517736
Yes, because Europe has become a utopia since Christianity all but died there.

LE EPIC REDUCIOTNISM!!111

in this book the whole world is meaninglessly predictable and held together by drugs and force, much like the way the world is now, but even more so, you don't get to decide anything, no thrill of taking risks and discovering yourself or others or concepts or anything.
you're either born a dysgenic (on purpose) slave who has no life except to work and gets rewarded with dopamine drugs to not rebel, or you're born a spoiled rich kid who simply has orgies and does better drugs all day. there is no decline but also no progress, there is no life or humanity just stagnancy.

>>24517780
Tbf the world became a dystopia because of protestants

>>24517780
The countries collapsing fastest today are the ones most shaped by Christianity and its colonial offspring—nations like the US, UK, and France, whose empires ran on a moral code of dualism, guilt, and domination. Christianity’s obsession with salvation, sin, and separation fractured the psyche, making people neurotic, self-absorbed, and disconnected from nature and community. That same narcissistic structure was exported through empire, justifying genocide, slavery, and cultural erasure—all while claiming moral high ground. Now, those societies are imploding: spiritually hollow, politically chaotic, drowning in mental illness, and unable to sustain meaning beyond consumption or identity crisis.

>>24517802
IDK bud, the problem there seems to be a lack of Christianity the way you put it, not its excess.

>>24517808
The modern world is unraveling because Christianity was never true to begin with. If it had been rooted in eternal truth, it wouldn’t have needed centuries of bloodshed, censorship, and imperial enforcement to maintain its grip. Real truth stands on its own—Christianity leaned on fear, guilt, and borrowed authority. For a while it worked, not because it was right, but because it was everywhere—in the schools, the laws, the kings, and the colonizers. People didn’t choose it; they were born into it, gaslit by it, punished for doubting it. But once global knowledge expanded—through science, philosophy, and exposure to other civilizations—the illusion couldn’t withstand the pressure. Its collapse was inevitable. When faith requires constant reinforcement and still dies the moment it's questioned, it was never faith—it was a fragile lie.

Now, the wreckage of that lie defines the West. The myth has died, but the narcissism it bred remains. People wander through consumerism, politics, and hollow spiritual revivals trying to patch over the existential vacuum. The once-Christian world is crumbling because its foundations were never rooted in balance or reality—they were dualistic, controlling, and profoundly disconnected from nature. Meanwhile, civilizations like China, which never internalized the Christian psychodrama of sin and salvation, are rising with clarity and long-term vision. Christianity wasn’t just a failed religion—it was the spiritual software of empire, and its collapse marks not just the end of belief, but the exposure of the West’s moral bankruptcy. There’s no going back. The only way forward is through the ashes.

>>24517822
>3 minutes to write this
>2 paragraphs of the same length
>—, —, —, —, —...
Oh no no no

>>24517834
Tell me why it's wrong. If you don't have an answer just say that instead of coping.

>>24517849
I haven't read it because I don't care about the gay little argument you're having. If I want to have a discussion with ChatGPT I can go do that right now instead of wasting my time with somebody stupid enough to not be able to put his own thoughts down himself without the use of AI and shameless enough to copy paste here the response it gave him to win an argument

>>24517854
Why are you anthropomorphizing it? It's not a god, if autocomplete finishes a word for you does that mean your phone is conscious? I know you're scared, just take your time and read it buddy.

>>24517822
Anon, this is a Christian website, take your apostasy to r*ddit!

>>24517868
Anon, reality contradicts your delusions, keep your opinions about talking donkeys to yourself.

>>24517867
What are you talking about? How am I anthropomorphizing it? I doubt you even read what it gave you in the first place since it only took you three minutes to post it here. It's not like you had written a good argument and just asked it to correct the mistakes you made.
What you probably did was ask him what he would say if he thought a certain way and simply copy pasted it after taking a cursory glance.

You have proven yourself to be a clown and everyone should just point and laugh at you instead of seriously considering having an argument. All you'll do is copy paste that same argumentation and run it through ChatGPT because you are too scared to lose your little internet argument, the one you started after simply basing your opinion on how you 'feel' about a certain topic, without having anything behind to back up that 'feeling'.

>>24517877
Bro, you are having a meltdown over some words. Get a grip.

>>24517879
Lmao too long for you buddy? Thanks for proving me right by providing 0 counter-argument. See what happens when you actually write your own posts? Keep crying. You got caught.
Go read a book for once in your life, maybe something'll actually stick

>>24517879
To be fair to the anon you're talking to, anyone who uses chatGPT to formulate their arguments is a complete moron. On the other hand, this anon is a moron for thinking Europe is some sort of rape-filled hellscape now but it was all hunky dory in the 14th century. On the whole they are both retarded but the anon you're talking to is significantly less retarded than that chatGPT anon - it's a low bar but he clears it.

>>24517901
>On the other hand, this anon is a moron for thinking Europe is some sort of rape-filled hellscape now but it was all hunky dory in the 14th century
Holy shit nobody here actually reads. I'm very obviously not the one who started the argument and I have pointed it out. You're also jumping in like a retard probably without realizing it yourself.

Anyway mentioning or talking to me, all of (You)s stupid faggots

>>24517912
>Anyway stop* mentioning

>>24517949
Still you seething buddy.

>>24517961
>Outdone both in argumentation and in humour, he keeps going with his humiliation fetish

>>24517969
>couldn't argue
>can't make his own memes
>still here seething at others

>>24517977
>couldn't argue (see: >>24517887)
>can't write his own texts
>finds the time to make a meme for everytime he gets caught
>still here seething over me making his cute little funnier after getting buck broken
You're so mad lmao

>>24517990
>writes paragraphs of seethe
>thinks that counts as an argument

>>24518000
You're so mad

>>24518011
>needs a folder full of laugh images to hide how much he's seething

>>24518018
You're so mad lmao

Seems to me the only one who couldn't formulate a real response was the christen

>>24517731 (OP)
You’re just wrapping up your disposition to being easily manipulated by bread and circuses in a film of common sense.

We need a religion board to contain fedora tippers.

>>24517822
This is historically illiterate. Subtraction narratives of secularism, that "it's just what happens when you remove superstition and dogma," fail to see how secularism is just an outgrowth of Reformation theology (generally just swapping in man for God, although some later versions pantheize Calvin instead).