Why is it called ‘an Electra complex’ when Electra didn’t sleep with her father nor have any sexual attraction towards him, and she didn’t kill Clytemnestra either (that was Orestes who did that). The actual Oedipus myth at least fits somewhat what Freud was getting at but Electra is shoehorned into 20th century Jewish psychology nonsense for no particular reason except to have a female answer to Oedipus.

Tl;Dr- they did Electra dirty making her appear to be a pervert

>>24519560 (OP)
with this knowledge i will pretend i actually read that book

>>24519560 (OP)
You answered your own question OP.

>>24519560 (OP)
they didn't read it but women have to be important somehow

Because Jung wanted to Desexualize psyA. Female attraction to Daddy is already named as the female Oedipus complex, or in men negative Oedipus.

>>24519560 (OP)
can you not make everything about the jews. it's getting old.

>>24519560 (OP)
Freud was laughed out of the room trying to present papers on child abuse inducing neuroses. So he had to lean on the mythemes. Also painted a target on his back with such things in and out of his ethnoreligion cohort.

>>24519681
Well was William Wundt more scientific then?

>>24519669
Can the Jews stop making it about themselves? Freud is a jew

>>24519669
But the whole affair is to pardon the vernacular very ‘Jewish.’ Oedipus at least had sex with his mom so Freud at least gets a pass there but a psychoanalytic reading of Electra is just really fucking - JEWISH. Electra did not have sex with her father and she had no sexual feelings for him based on textual evidence. Electra didn’t even do the main revenge plot despite the title of the Euripides play. It was actually Orestes and Pylades who killed Aegisthus and Clytemnestra.

The 20th century was a century of perverts projecting perversions and fetishes onto the ancients.

>>24519560 (OP)
I don't know, but I also find it annoying. She had more or less the same level of love for her dad and hate for her mum as Orestes and there was obviously nothing sexual about it, but I guess Jung couldn't shoehorn a dumb imaginary complex on a different mythological character. There's also the fact that she became more popular than her brother because muh murderous woman.
Actually I blame Euripides for having her directly participate in Clytemnestra's murder but not being haunted by the Erinyes. Fuck Euripides.

>>24519669
they can't, they are raped by the jewish egregor

the Erinyes are feminists

>>24519560 (OP)
>actual Oedipus myth at least fits somewhat what Freud was getting at
Freud's analysis of Oedipus Rex is about the catharsis of the audience (the psychosexual response of the audience in which they feel their eyes are taken from them). The idea that everyone is fitting into a role in the family ignores the focus on audience and irony in the drama. It's an Electra complex because Electra knows what happened to Iphegenia, how Clytemnestra winds up with her father, yet would still choose daddy.
The point of either is that they're tragedies where the protagonist having more knowledge or understanding of the world as an audience allows you to see the progression towards the cathartic moment of realisation for the character (ie the adult realising that it was kind of weird they wanted to marry their parent and that they wanted that because they had very little understanding of adult relationships or boundaries)

my radfem tranny ideologist mother told me that some friends of hers named their daughter Electra after the complex (none of them read)

i hate jews

>>24519898
Freud had the theory before watching the play. He did not base his entire theory on the play. He simply saw his theory reflected in it.

>>24519709
Freud was a self-hating Jew who grew up with White people telling him he was subhuman because he had a slight olive tone to his skin and a mild hook to his nose

Name one (1) person who is not Jewish.

>>24520363
Wait, the Jung that Petersen fellates so heavily came up with this bullshit? Yeah, that makes a lot of sense actually.

>>24520668
What a complete crock of shit.

If I ever have a daughter I'm naming her Electra. Yes I've read it

>>24522298
Well of course. Assuming you're a man, why wouldn't you want an Electra?

>>24522298
Illiterates are going to see that name and think female Oedipus even though the actual story is nothing at all like that.

>>24519560 (OP)
Because while Freud was an addict atheist, he still gave a surprising amount of insight into the mental workings of mankind's fallen state of depravity. By contrast, while Jung technically had a better starting point in his Christian background, he fell into occult psychosis and ended up warping Freud's theories into archetype nonsense. There's good reason why Freud continues to be a major source of inspiration for psychology (even if begrudgingly among behavioralists), while Jung produced New Age loons, Campbell's slop, and self-help gurus.

>>24522451
THAT actually makes so much sense to me that the charlatan Jung made the ludicrous connection between Electra and oedipus and coined the term. You can see it in his disciple Petersen. You can read anything you want into a text if you try hard enough.

>>24520363
>Fuck Euripides.
Probably most important information itt

>>24523321
Hating on Euripides is Reddit and effeminate. You are a faggot if you hate Euripides. Think about it. Aristophanes literally wrote a play about how only women hate Euripides.

You = Faggot

>>24522451
Jung grants that Freud‘s theories are valid for the depraved though.