Not sure if /lit/ is the best place to ask, but whenever I struggle with conceptual problems literature has always been helpful.

But yeah what I'm struggling with is space, or rather I'm struggling with space related social anxiety. I basically don't know where to stand, I'm always either too close or too far away to people, and I feel like I have no weight, I fundamentally don't understand space. I have no social issues at all whenever I'm sitting down. I bump into people I stand awkwardly unsure where to be, I block people's path all the time or I walk randomly then stop and go back, all of it is unnatural. I don't have any other struggles in the social arena so I'm somewhat perplexed.

Is there any literature on this?? I want to acquire something like weight as well as grace.

>>24521896 (OP)
Google liminal spaces and SCP

>>24521896 (OP)
You sound like a man without qualities.

>>24521935
what about a body with no organs?

>>24521935
Good book

bump

>>24521896 (OP)
What you are describing is a body problem. It cannot be treated through cognition or concept. Meditation, exercise, dancing, these things will give you gravity. But like everything it fluctuates. Have you tried meditation

>>24521896 (OP)
How close or far do you want to stand to somebody?

>>24523403
I have not, anything specific you would recommend?

>>24523513
Whatever is natural, I've been obvserving others and they don't have the same issue. I often end up bumping into people or having my back turned to someone, or standing in some weird corner I walked to and then awkwardly walk back and stand in the middle of the room for some reason. It doesn't come naturally to me lol.

>>24523403
I have not, anything specific you would recommend?

>>24523513
Whatever is natural, I've been obvserving others and they don't have the same issue. I often end up bumping into people or having my back turned to someone, or standing in some weird corner I walked to and then awkwardly walk back and stand in the middle of the room for some reason. It just doesn't come naturally to me lol.

>>24523776
Try just sitting. For five minutes. With your eyes closed. Exerting no influence over yourself nor any counter reaction against what rises. Just fall into yourself. To me this is the most radical thing we can do. The only true rebellious act against our conditioning. And yet it is supremely awarded by the secret benevolents.

Later, if you wish to develop your concentration, you can choose an object of focus. This is commonly the sensation of breath, the "touch" of air on your nostrils during inhalation and exhalation, without inference with the quality or speed of breath itself.

>>24521896 (OP)
yeah you're same as me. congratulation for being retarded.

imagine depending on mind and ignoring the body. mind is a virus.

Meditation is overrated, the very act of reading fulfills the same purpose. That one Japanese normie wrote a good book on it lemme see if I can f,nd it

>>24521896 (OP)
The Poetics of Space by Gaston Bachelard

>>24523898
Because Buddha was actually reading Siddhartha when he attained nibanna beneath the banyan tree. I will fight you on this bro.

>>24523902
How so?

>>24523819
Lovely post. This is it.

>>24521896 (OP)
Kafka, not for any solutions

>>24523776
No, I'm asking how close *you* want to stand. Right now, natural is an abstract wishy-washy word. We can't make any progress until we figure out how normally *you* feel. That is the most natural thing right now.

>>24523941
Because it phenomenologically contemplates space. If OP has space related social issues this could be a fun read. He mentioned liking literature for conceptual problems so I'm fairly certain he isn't looking for any cookie cutter self-help horseshit.

>>24523902
>>24524231
Thank you, I'll get a copy when I'm off work.

>>24524147
Could you elaborate a bit more? I don't have an exact measurement in my head but let's say what I find ideal is Y, where would we go from there?

>>24524231
Brentano and Husserl would probably be a good place to go as well if he wants to get really autistic about it

>>24524599
God, I should go back to reading phenomenological philosophy. That's the kind of autism I like.

>>24524641
Have you read ideas 1? Husserl has been making a huge comeback from what I've heard.

>>24524931
Nah, only bit about Husserl I "read" were audiobook snippits and lectures when I was a teenager. I just remember being very fascinated by it. It coincited around the same time I dropped most of my philosophical reading however, irl shit and all that. This just reminded me of it. Will probably pick it up agin, though.

>>24525813
There was an incredible lecture on Husserl that blew my mind when I watched it back in the day, tried finding it again just now but it seems to have been deleted. But yeah he's absolutely worth it, phenomenology doesn't really seem like ''practical philosophy'' but I don't think anything has been as useful to me day to day as Husserl and Brentano. Genuinely helps with ones disposition, Hegel too but he has too much going on.

>>24525813
There was an incredible lecture on Husserl that blew my mind when I watched it back in the day, tried finding it again just now but it seems to have been deleted. But yeah he's absolutely worth it, phenomenology doesn't really seem like ''practical philosophy'' but I don't think anything has been as useful to me day to day as Husserl and Brentano. Genuinely helps with ones disposition, Hegel too but there's just too much going on with him. Good philosophy helps declutter your way of thinking through mimesis as you read and linger with it. Incidentally I think it'd help op too, his issue seems to me to just be overthinking things.

>>24524275
>Could you elaborate a bit more? I don't have an exact measurement in my head but let's say what I find ideal is Y, where would we go from there?
Pay attention to how you normally feel, and do not care about what other people want. Surely, you are not 1000% indifferent to how close or far you want to be from someone, right?

I'm trying to give you a baseline to work with, one that you have a good feeling for. When you have the baseline, then you can make adjustments depending on the situation.