>if the substance is already complex, it doesn't need flowery language to make it even more complex
is this true?

>>24522487 (OP)
The statement itself lacks any meaningful substance.

>>24522487 (OP)
Why not just become a non-fiction writer at this point? Seems to be entirely missing the point of art. Genre writers truly are shitters.

>>24522487 (OP)
If you're story is written in a non-flowery language, it's not a novel. It's a thought experiment.

Imagine if Tolkien wrote like Sanderson and Frodo and Gandalf said things like "groovy" and "bummer".

>>24522487 (OP)

"Flowery language" as he puts it is adds depth to the tone of whatever the writer is trying to convey. Certain words have certain feelings to them for example and can add/bring out a lot of feel, depth and/or emotion to what the author is trying to convey or describe. It's like salted and seasoned food.

Compared to sandersons writing which is unsalted and unseasoned food.

>>24522964
He writes for the modern reader who wants everything to be presented as a Wiki article.

>>24522527
No, that would be your statement.

>>24522487 (OP)
It's a solid point but he is the worst possible person to make it.

>>24522487 (OP)
Yes, but these clowns use the term "flowery language" to reger to any technically competent prose.

>>24522487 (OP)
Simplicity can be profound and prose can be dense, lyrical and/or evocative using certain words rather than just plain description. These aren't contradictory ideas.

>>24522818
A lot of critics shat on Tolkien's writing when it first came out, but Tolkien and other Dunsany-style classic fantasy writers are a lot better than modern genre fiction and a lot of contemporary "serious literature".
They were able to be descriptive but clear; I admittedly have only read bits of Sanderson but his work sounds very shorn of any soulful details
>>24522553
It's more like a YA shitter. Good genre fiction writers know how to use descriptive language (see Tolkien, Bradbury, Dunsany, and even Martin)

>>24523292
I heard them decry Tolkien and Hemingway as too flowery... Tolkien occasionally has poetic descriptions of nature typical of a Victorian era men who loved nature but Hemingway wrote like a journalist