Can video games match the storytelling prowess that books have achieved?

>>24524557 (OP)
Yes.
Though modern gaming less so

>>24524557 (OP)
video game stories are crafted through use of art, technological advancement, and participation of the audience.
people now watch other people playing video games, and they actually pay them for the privlidge of such.
Sure you can say video games are just like choose your own adventure books, and watching streamers is no different than listening to an audiobook. But These video games are now multi million dollar "investiments".
THe only way you can say the same of one book is if the author is a multimillionare and how long it took the author to write the book.

While a book may have some editors, and a team that helps write the book.
A video Game is a collaborative effort between thousands of artists and programmers.
I don't think you can say that about a book.

>>24524557 (OP)
Depends if the video game is made by a committee of women or not.

>>24524557 (OP)
Leisure Suit Larry is in the Great American Novel canon.

>>24524557 (OP)
I recently got into VNs and I really, really enjoyed the big names.
But now that I have burnt through Tsukihime, Witch on the Holy Night, Umineko, and Steins Gate I'm realizing that is quite literally all there is. I bought probably 10 VNs for the steam summer sale, and every single one is lolislop with girls who not only look but literally act 9 years old (like chasing each other around with bugs and goo goo ga ga voice). Checking VNDB, it's just hundreds of pages of shit exactly like that.

It's a shame. I like the format but in the east its for lolicon freaks and in the west its almost exclusively used for porn. But I really enjoyed those 4 or 5 even if they weren't /lit/ tier, and I am not someone who typically enjoys pop media.

>picrel
This was also a shame. Very high quality writing not just for gams but for fantasy genre material, wasted on D&D nonsense lore.

>>24524557 (OP)
They probably could, but they don't. Player agency is at odds with a poignant narrative and very few could thread that needle while remaining fun. Also, as a rule, literary people look down on games, but this could change someday as it did for television.

>>24524557 (OP)
Disco Elysium is on par with any novel.

>>24524557 (OP)
Yes, but they have to take advantage of the medium. Torment is a great example, it isn't trying to be something other than a game. The big problem with games is that they always seem to lack the completeness of vision that books have.

Here is my list of storytelling kino

Planescape Torment
Bioshock 1
Call of Juarez Gunslinger
Morrowind
Deus Ex
Homefront
Pathologic 2
Max Payne 1, 2, and 3


These take advantage of the medium rather than trying to make the medium fit into something more like a traditional book or film. I also don't think any of these are much better than maybe above average, if we were to measure the quality of storytelling vs literature, with Homefront not even really being a good game.

>>24524688
You are on par with anybody in your special ed class

>>24524557 (OP)
>Can video games match the storytelling prowess that books have achieved?

planescape torment is literal d&dslop, its use as pic should be a hint to the answer of this question

Neither video games nor literature can be tied down to just being about storytelling and in regards to storytelling function entirely different. More importantly though video games are an amalgation of media, so it can include in itself aspects of literature. This doesnt make video games superior, it just highlights how different they both function.

Personally speaking video games often leave more of an immediate imprint on me than books, they arrest my imagination more strongly than literature does, but they also do this with much more time being put into them from me as a player. And books give me a range and intensity of emotion that i dont get from video games at all, they have been much more transformative for my personal life. Nonetheless its fascinating how deep video games go for me and im sure its the same for many others.

No

>>24524653
>Wasted on D&D nonsense lore.
Hm. Did you finish it?

>>24524557 (OP)
No. Video games are concerned with other things.