Thread 24525231 - /lit/ [Archived: 499 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/6/2025, 5:40:59 AM No.24525231
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Why do Eastern (Dharmic) religions engage the intellect and philosophy, while Western (Abrahamic) religions are content with dogma and doctrine?
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 5:52:14 AM No.24525258
>>24525231 (OP)
Because you’re a retard who is viewing eastern religions from a western perspective buddhists and hindus are are extremely superstitious and ritualistic, a lot more than the average christian or jew living in the west
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 5:55:28 AM No.24525264
How do I cope with knowing superstition and fear won and has held human progress back for the last 2000 years?
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 6:13:27 AM No.24525286
>>24525231 (OP)
They don't. Your thesis is wrong.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 6:17:37 AM No.24525290
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>>24525258
>buddhists and hindus are are extremely superstitious and ritualistic
Western science agree with eastern religions, both materialistic normie science and esoteric spiritual parapsychology but to different degrees. For starters neuroscience has proved many of the benefits of meditation and yoga practiced by easterners. Parapsychology (eg Real Magic, by Dean Radin) has proven the supernatural through laboratory experiments, for example using Buddhist priests to bless drinks.
>>24525264
It is only Abrahamic pseudo spirituality that has held human progress back, and now it's outgrowth of materialism is doing the same.
The truth is that Pagan, Perennial, Occult and Esoteric religion is the reason for much of our science. For example the scientific revolution from Copernicus to Newton was influenced by Hermetism, Pythagorianism and Neoplatonism. They also practiced alchemy, magic and astrology.
In more recent times the greatest scientists also expressed favorable ideas about such traditions, Feynman for example attended parapsychologist meetings.
See also The Tao of Physics by Capra.
Reddit materialist and skeptical atheism nowadays is just Abrahamic Monotheism -1
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 6:27:05 AM No.24525300
>>24525290
I ain’t reading all that
Go back to r eddit
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 6:32:57 AM No.24525309
>>24525231 (OP)
Judaism and Islam are not western religions lol.
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 6:38:56 AM No.24525318
>>24525290
The scientific revolution dovetailed off of magical and alchemist attempts to unlock and control the hidden forces of nature for man's benefit. Mathematics is directly rooted or related from numerology because of it, with math arguably being numerology that is actually real and has utility.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 6:40:12 AM No.24525322
>>24525300
Peak of Christian intellectualism.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 6:42:27 AM No.24525326
>>24525300
>I'm a retard
Yes, we know. Tell us your religion, so we can make even more fun of you.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 6:48:27 AM No.24525338
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 6:54:48 AM No.24525345
>>24525309
Then why is maghreb muslim?
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 7:17:21 AM No.24525379
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 7:31:28 AM No.24525394
>>24525379
sheeeeeeeeeeiiiiiiitt
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 9:34:24 AM No.24525529
>>24525290
>Parapsychology (eg Real Magic, by Dean Radin) has proven the supernatural through laboratory experiments, for example using Buddhist priests to bless drinks.
Nyet
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 9:37:26 AM No.24525536
>>24525290
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dean_Radin#Parapsychology

>Radin's paranormal claims have been rejected by those in the skeptical and mainstream scientific communities, some of whom have suggested that Radin's beliefs embrace pseudoscience and that he misunderstands the nature of science
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 11:30:38 PM No.24527430
>>24525231 (OP)
because they are smarter
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 11:32:14 PM No.24527434
>>24527430
No
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 11:41:54 PM No.24527451
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>>24527434
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 11:58:47 PM No.24527487
>>24525231 (OP)
>To study Buddhism is to study ourselves. To study ourselves is to forget ourselves.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 12:00:54 AM No.24527491
>>24525231 (OP)
Because the west cut its spiritual Corpus in half, dogma in religión, mental inquiry in philosophy, in the East philosophy and religión are the same thing
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 12:05:27 AM No.24527502
>>24527451
kek
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 12:09:25 AM No.24527519
>>24525231 (OP)
if that's true why did science develop in the west
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 4:32:46 PM No.24529187
>>24525231 (OP)
bump
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 4:37:36 PM No.24529202
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>>24525231 (OP)
Why do Eastern (Dharmic) religions encourage you to commit suicide or sit idly for the rest of your life doing nothing, while Western (Abrahamic) religions encourage action in the world while still remaining aloof from it interiorly?
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 4:38:03 PM No.24529204
>>24525231 (OP)
You clearly don't know anything about esoteric layers of Western religions, nor anything about perennialism.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 4:39:38 PM No.24529209
>>24527434
>>24527451
great argumentation as always on 4chan
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 4:49:14 PM No.24529239
>"western" religions are just near eastern jewish cults
a distinction here has to be made between abrahamism and actual western religion, which is functionally dead and only manages periodic half-revivals like the renaissance and nazi germany
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 5:09:17 PM No.24529277
>>24529202
why would you need action in the world if the world is nothing compared to the afterlife?
yeah, that mindset doesn't encourage action.
dharmic mindset, on the other hand, is completely different in this regard.
it encourages you to take action that flows naturally from the situation, that makes the most sense in given circumstances.
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 5:19:20 PM No.24529289
>>24525231 (OP)
this has to be bait. most indian schools depend on authoritative texts. it is not a free thinking intellectual endeavor, the dialectics only come when debating other sects
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 6:44:56 PM No.24529392
>>24525231 (OP)
Christianity is falling apart in the modern world because it was never built to survive open access to information. It thrived for centuries by crushing dissent, burning books, and silencing "heretics"—not by winning arguments, but by monopolizing power. Once the printing press hit, the cracks started showing. People actually read the Bible and realized the Church had been feeding them garbage for generations. Now with the internet, that dam is obliterated. You can pull up every contradiction, every historical fraud, every bloody atrocity in seconds. Christianity can’t deal with debate—it was designed to end it.

Compare that to Buddhism, which basically came out of a massive intellectual deathmatch. The Buddha didn’t demand blind obedience—he told people to question everything, even him. Buddhist philosophy evolved through brutal public debates, not inquisitions. That’s why it holds up better in a world where people aren’t afraid to ask hard questions. Christianity, on the other hand, still acts like it’s got a sword and a king behind it. But now it's just some guy in robes yelling on YouTube while teenagers in comment sections rip him apart with memes and Wikipedia links.
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 6:49:11 PM No.24529400
>>24525345
>Then why is maghreb muslim?
Because Muslims worship a literal warlord?
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 6:50:30 PM No.24529403
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>>24525231 (OP)
good morning saar
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 6:53:08 PM No.24529408
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>>24529392
then why is buddhism dying like every other major religion aside from islam and "unaffliated"
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 7:04:39 PM No.24529427
>>24529392
most reddit post ive seen on lit
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 7:09:55 PM No.24529437
>>24525231 (OP)
>what is augustine
>what is islamic golden age
>what is aquinas
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 7:12:45 PM No.24529445
>>24529408
>That projected rise in folk religions
Unfathomably based
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 7:21:42 PM No.24529465
>>24529427
Should of used that argument when your religion was collapsing.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 7:24:37 PM No.24529474
>>24529392
you are building the most fallacious caricature based on your sentimentality and the worst part is that you are presenting it as if it were the objective truth ny a sensible buddhist sympathizer. let me guess: you think the goal of """the inquisition""" was witch hunting? that millions died?

christianity thrived for as long as the worldview in the west remained religious --- up until modernity, when it shifted, and you and your enlightened bunch spawned the most superstitious, murderous and repressive ideas (see: french revolution). you speak of 'christian repression' when homicides, burning of books, silencing etc all happened within the most anti-christian movements (first in the mentioned revolution, then in the communist)

absolutely clueless about history. go back
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 7:29:13 PM No.24529486
>>24529474
For centuries, the Christcucks wielded the might of oppressive regimes, enforcing their dogmas with the power of the state, the threat of violence, and the weight of social control. They built their empires on fear, suppressing dissent, stifling creativity, and dictating morality through rigid hierarchies. Cloaked in the illusion of divine authority, they sought to dominate every aspect of life, ensuring their brittle worldview went unchallenged. Their rule was not one of faith, but of force—a hollow empire sustained by the power to punish and the manipulation of the weak.

Yet, stripped of their governmental backing, they have been exposed as moralizing cowards, incapable of defending their beliefs without the machinery of oppression. They cling desperately to outdated rhetoric, appealing to authority that no longer exists and relying on the goodwill of the very systems they once sought to control. Without their iron grip on power, they reveal their true nature as useful idiots—tools for other forces, unable to adapt or survive in a world where chaos reigns and ideas thrive on merit, not coercion.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 7:37:59 PM No.24529501
ah so youre just using chatgpt to post reddit crap
i shouldve known
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 7:45:22 PM No.24529523
>>24529427
>>24529474
>>24529501
>worthless toilet paper arguments
You are proving him correct, you can't argue.
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 7:47:27 PM No.24529529
>>24529400
Okay, so the west is muslim because they worship a warlord. Therefore the west is muslim
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 7:47:56 PM No.24529534
>>24529523
arguing vs caricatures is like trying to punch the wind
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 7:51:50 PM No.24529545
>>24529534
Yet that's exactly what you're doing, everybody that dismantles your worldview is simultaneously; reddit, a jew, a jeet, a chink, a muslim, a glowie etc.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 8:10:00 PM No.24529607
>>24529445
nothing based about african fetishism and chinese ancestor worship
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 8:27:45 PM No.24529631
>western religions
>it's all yahweh cults
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 9:14:14 PM No.24529715
>>24529239
>>24529631
The irony here is that the religions of the east (specifically India) have DNA from Europe via Vedic Aryan culture. Prince Siddhartha was probably white passing. Meanwhile the supposed "Western" Near Eastern religions are fully semitic.
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 9:24:50 PM No.24529736
>>24529474
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_pagans_in_the_late_Roman_Empire
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_of_Verden
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albigensian_Crusade
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_Inquisition
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Crusades
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_wars_of_religion
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_affair
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Inquisition
idiot
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 9:26:54 PM No.24529739
>>24529736
Why do Christians love killing white people so much? It's all they used to do. Now they spend all their time and money covincing africans that condoms are sinful. I wonder (((who)))'s behind this religion?
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 2:35:03 AM No.24530463
>>24529392
You are right
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 3:01:02 AM No.24530507
>>24529474
The late French Revolution was a fanatical advocacy of familial values and civic militarization under the banner of extreme patriotism. It was the nearest identifiable thing to the first fascist state in Europe and therefore its ideas were justified and awesome.
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 3:02:15 AM No.24530511
>>24529403
Ivan is saar
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 3:05:46 AM No.24530521
>>24529715
you are indian
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 3:10:34 AM No.24530535
>>24530521
Indians actively hate what he said and promote psuedoscience to try to debunk the Aryan conquests
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 3:57:34 AM No.24530642
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>>24529277
>it encourages you to take action
Much action taking going on here
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 3:58:36 AM No.24530644
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>>24529277
i am taking le epic dharmic action
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 4:01:21 AM No.24530651
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 4:54:25 AM No.24530766
>>24525309
neither is christcuckery
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 5:30:59 AM No.24530815
>dogma is... LE BAD
ironically this is a dogma
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 5:33:29 AM No.24530819
>>24525290
Please stop posting nihilistic jews like Einstein when you're trying to defend spirituality in the west.
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 5:39:40 AM No.24530829
>>24525536
ChatGPT tier "refutation"
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 12:31:45 PM No.24531350
>>24525231 (OP)
Because Eastern Dharmic traditions are not built on absolute dualism, while Western Abrahamic religions are. In the East, the self and the universe are seen as interwoven; thought is a tool to approach reality, not a threat to it. Traditions like Hinduism, Buddhism, and Jainism explore consciousness, paradox, and impermanence — they invite inquiry because the divine is not separate from the seeker. Philosophy is embraced because there’s no need to violently separate truth from self.

Western religions, especially Christianity and Islam, are built on hard dualism: God vs. man, good vs. evil, heaven vs. hell. This rigid split creates a brittle worldview that can't tolerate ambiguity. Intellect becomes dangerous because it introduces nuance, which erodes absolute claims. So instead of inquiry, they offer doctrine. Instead of self-exploration, submission. Thought must be corralled, not expanded, because questioning the system threatens its binary foundation. That’s why the East produced sages and seekers, while the West produced heretics and inquisitions.
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 3:00:47 PM No.24531526
>>24525309
And Christianity is?