Psychology of "Ender's Game" - /lit/ (#24525695) [Archived: 630 hours ago]

Political Poisoner
7/6/2025, 11:59:50 AM No.24525695
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I've found the book relatable because I've gone through a similar mental processes in life without intentional design. It might not be a new theory (I haven't discussed the book with anybody yet) but Ender wasn't genetically engineered or whatever, he's based on the role models that were his brother and sister, and they may have been conditioned to be that way because Ender needed to internalize these two examples as a moral guide, and so they may have been created intentionally (if further books expose it I'll feel stupid for a few hours, but whatever). Peter emulates this strategy by adopting a softer online role and giving the more radical one to his sister, and they both built up what was missing from their personalities, becoming as "complete" as Ender.

In the nature vs nurture argument it would mean that these kids only inherited the mental bandwidth necessary to become genuises, and the rest is nurture.
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 1:53:48 PM No.24525834
>>24525695 (OP)
Ender's Game is an almost irrelevant prologue to the actual story. Don't ever talk about a book again until you've finished the series.
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Political Poisoner
7/6/2025, 3:26:14 PM No.24526014
>>24525834
This way nobody will ever follow your recommendations, because you're shutting down people's enthusiasm with negativity. Did your parents or teachers ever encourage you, or just shamed your for failure? That is not how you become a good leader, or a good friend.

I like theorizing about stories before the plot twists are revealed, and this is the exact reason the whole detective genre is popular.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 4:13:50 PM No.24526116
>>24525695 (OP)
Haven't read any of the books but I hope you continue to enjoy them Anon, cheers
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 5:25:14 PM No.24526282
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>>24525695 (OP)
The internet persona subplots never made sense to me
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 5:27:44 PM No.24526287
what the fuck is this book actually about? internet? i thought this book was what if the wizard was solicited by aliens
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 5:50:12 PM No.24526360
>>24525834
>Ender's Game is an almost irrelevant prologue to the actual story. Don't ever talk about a book again until you've finished the series.
quite sad that the movie adaptation ended with the first part... makes me appreciate Atlas Shrugged more (they managed to pull through the entire book, 3 parts, even though the third part was on shoestring budget and borderline unwatchable)
Political Poisoner
7/6/2025, 6:19:12 PM No.24526442
>>24526282
It's a little bit unrealistic with the actual internet and what a cesspool it can be, but in the probably text-based version of internet imagined by the author, which I feel would've been like the forums before the rise of social media, some characters with the philosopher names that already command respect could've gained traction. I don't know how viral text posts could be as I didn't have the internet during the times when forums were prevalent. Right now I don't really believe text-based media beyond short quotes can gain traction, but I imagine Peter would've designed the characters to be highly quotable. If I was going for the same under similar circumstances I would've also thrown in some political cartoons.
Political Poisoner
7/6/2025, 6:30:49 PM No.24526479
>>24526287
The (first) book is, first and foremost, about self-parenting. Ender's actual parents barely matter, they're just there to feed the kids. He had the boogeyman in the form of a sociopath older brother and an "angel on his shoulder" in the form of an older sister. He wanted under no circumstances to become like his brother, even when he had to beat some bullies to death to prevent further attacks. He was put under immense pressure by the army officials to maximize his creativity. This is a believable description how to raise a military genius, but I doubt a child that young could've survived through it, so the book is somewhat unrealistic, but the psychological processes represented there are correct: if you have an inner critic, you could trace its thought patterns to one of your parents or teachers (or a mix of them). Abused children especially build a whole model of the caretaker they have to avoid angering to predict them better (so Ender would've learned how his brother thought, and that logic would've convinced him to attack the bullies ruthlessly so that later he would be protected by people's fear of him)