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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 9:51:36 AM No.24528615
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John Stuart Mill started being educated on the Greeks by his father when he was 3.
At what age should you start your kids down this path?
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 10:31:36 AM No.24528670
>>24528615 (OP)
I started reading Percy Jackson when I was 12. Does it count?
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 10:37:02 AM No.24528684
>>24528615 (OP)
>Homer
retroactively refuted by Plato
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 10:45:33 AM No.24528705
I cringe everytime I see this list. How to scare off potential new readers 101
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 12:50:02 PM No.24528836
>>24528615 (OP)
John Stuart Mill is an intellectually deficient moralizing worm who has only ever directly contributed to the destruction of man and his art.
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 1:18:50 PM No.24528867
>>24528684
Someone doesn’t know what retroactively means.
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 2:03:46 PM No.24528928
>>24528836
Silence, you.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 2:13:58 PM No.24528944
>>24528705
It's not for people who want to read. It's for autodidacts.
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 2:15:45 PM No.24528946
>>24528944
Somebody should tell anons to stop giving new readers this list then
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 2:41:16 PM No.24528976
I read Greek myths for children to my 4 year old. Been doing it her whole life. She knowsore about Greek myths than 90% of adults already.

We also read Shakespeare, Dickens, Dumas, the Bible, etc... all children's versions that are abridged.
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 2:44:14 PM No.24528982
>>24528976
>all children's versions that are abridged
She didn't read them. Read them to her again
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 4:05:09 PM No.24529130
>>24528976
audiobooks don't count as reading
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 4:13:37 PM No.24529141
>>24528615 (OP)
Yeah. I found the Usborne series to be quite good, because it has good art and doesn't cheapen the stories. Unfortunately, only the Greek and Fairy Tale ones is really picture heavy enough for younger kids. But my oldest son really likes those. He's only three, but he can now follow along with its abbreviated Odyssey. He really likes the Circe part for whatever reason. The Bible is a bit harder. The Golden children's Bible is pretty good art wise, but written at too high of a level, so I just go through the pictures and summarize.

I found a good illustrated Ramanyana too. I just tried reading him Narnia to see how it went, not expecting to get far, but he likes listening enough that we are most of the way through the first book. I don't think he gets it all the way though. And then he likes listening to me read so I've read him parts of the Aeneid which I was reading for myself.

Art books are good too. I have Eco's book On Beauty. The one on ugliness is a little too scary. And then I have big collections from the Louvre, Florence, and the Vatican to look through, and Doré. I figure I will probably start with Narnia over again when he can get it more, in a year or two, and then maybe the Book of Three because that was good IIRC. And there are some other good kids books before he's ready for stuff like Beowulf and the Iliad.

I don't let him watch any TV. I think that's pretty crucial. And the young kids books I have I try to get a lot of verse, Dr. Seuss is great, to get him used to that.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 4:22:03 PM No.24529156
>>24528615 (OP)
Thats actually a good case against starting with the greeks
>>24528670
This
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 4:23:14 PM No.24529160
>15
>On conic sections

Every time I see that, I chuckle
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 4:40:20 PM No.24529212
>>24528615 (OP)
>Largely skips over the middle ages
>Boethius doesn't even make it
>No Patristics except Augustine
Every time
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 6:10:38 PM No.24529346
>>24528867
Not everyone had a father to educate them.
Be more considerate next time
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 6:14:06 PM No.24529348
>>24528615 (OP)
That's a loaded question. You shouldn't have kids.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 6:18:38 PM No.24529355
>>24529212
No one cares about a bunch of schizo Christcucks who castrated themselves and lived in the desert
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 6:23:32 PM No.24529365
>>24529355
Very intellectually honest and nuanced take, anon.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 6:33:44 PM No.24529374
>>24528615 (OP)
>START WITH MUH GREEKS!!
>HECKIN' LE BASED!!!!
None of you faggots know what you're talking about. You just want to sound intelligent on the internet.
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 6:35:19 PM No.24529376
>>24529374
bro is filtered by plato
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 6:36:53 PM No.24529380
>>24529376
Bro is filtered straight up on God bro! Bro's giving Ohio. Fr Fr bro No Cap
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 7:29:05 PM No.24529484
>>24529380
plato spoke like this. aristotle redacted it out cause he thought it was cringe
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 7:34:37 PM No.24529491
>>24528976
>spoiling all the good books by using abridged versions
Geez, thanks dad!
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 7:36:03 PM No.24529494
>>24529491
>t. plotfag
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 7:36:26 PM No.24529496
>>24529355
>what is arthurian legend
>what is the nordic sagas
>what is the Faerie Queen
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 7:43:16 PM No.24529520
>>24529494
>calls me plotfag
>reads to his children adaptations that remove everything of value from the book except the plot
Quite hypocrite, aren't ya? Maybe you are proyecting, daddy.
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 7:54:48 PM No.24529561
>>24529484
>redacted it out
Like I said, you just want to sound intelligent on the internet.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 8:42:14 PM No.24529662
>>24528615 (OP)
>be me
> 40 years old
>don't even remember ever having read the Greeks
it's over for me, isn't it? I will forever remain ignorant, illiterate and useless.
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 4:05:21 AM No.24530663
>>24529496
>nice list akshually unironically
my first introduction to a non-American vocabulary was - at about 8yo - through an old Robin Hood book written Olde English style, and helped me grasp what a 'foreign' language was - slowly speeding up as my comprehension could grasp it - has to do a book project about it at school, too. What imo was fun was knowing what the popular US version was, and, showing the other students what happened in the old version.
>A book about King Arthur was the next story I read - over 200 pages.
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 6:03:00 AM No.24530873
>>24530663
who are you quoting?
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 6:20:43 AM No.24530901
>>24529491
JESUS DIES
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 6:25:09 AM No.24530909
>>24530873
>oh look, it's this shit again, Dad.
>It's fine Son, the little creatures of nature don't know that they're ugly.
>Do I feed it? What will it do when I feed it?
>captcha: ay0at
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 7:01:37 AM No.24530951
>>24529520
>not reading abridged versions to easily grasp the gist of the plots and themes then reading the full version to fully appreciate the work with a clear idea of the plot
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 1:26:34 PM No.24531404
>>24529374
What's wrong with it then?
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 1:28:06 PM No.24531408
>>24529662
It takes about 3 years to learn to read ancient Greek and about 10 to get through most of that list. Unless you plan on dying at 53 you can do it the proper way by reading the original text. You can skip learning Greek and even save 3 years.
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 1:32:42 PM No.24531415
>>24530951
Just read the full version more than once.
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 1:40:36 PM No.24531420
>>24528615 (OP)
Half of these should be disregarded and replaced with a hard science like physics or chemistry
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 1:41:16 PM No.24531421
>>24528615 (OP)
Judging by how much of a faggot Mill turned out to be, either much later or much earlier.
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 5:11:58 PM No.24531747
>>24531420
Humanities are so much more valuable
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 5:14:02 PM No.24531751
>>24531408
I'm lazy, so I will never learn Latin or Ancient Greek :(
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 10:46:08 PM No.24532369
>>24529374
true. /lit/ will tell you to read X thing but they can never provide a good argument as for why, which proves they are nothing but pseuds
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 10:58:02 PM No.24532401
>>24531420
Why?