Why does no one talk about Pareto? He far surpasses Marx and is literally the best sociologist/economist of the 20th century. He's also way more funny and based desu

>>24529772 (OP)
Cause he was a naughty fascist

>>24529772 (OP)
People who shill marx do not care about economics

>>24529772 (OP)
Have you actually tried reading those multivolume sociology works of his? They're very dry and not funny :/

>>24530208
He's funnier in the courses he gave at Lausanne and in his articles

>>24529772 (OP)
Pareto doomed himself to be somebody who everybody is influenced by but nobody reads by making his oeuvre an impenetrable, boring mess.

>>24529772 (OP)
My friend Luke insists I read him but I only know him from secondary sources

>>24531552
This is not true at all, you really have to have be brain-rotten to find Pareto impenetrable and boring. Besides, the simple fact that Pareto is so accurate in his work makes him captivating.

What do you think about Mosca, Machiavelli? I’m only familiar with Pareto through Burnham. If you are familiar, do you think he gave him an accurate treatment?

Like this >>24533114 anon I encountered his thought through Burnham
Where should I start with his work?

Also this >>24529793 is true. Marx's economics are so obviously wrong and useless that it's amazing to me that anyone cares about it at all.

>>24533122
I wouldn't know how to answer since I read Pareto through his complete works in French (freely available), there is no complete edition of Pareto in English (tho there is one in Turkish kek)

>>24533114
I don't know Mosca, but from what I've read about him, the intelligent elite understands that it must renew itself. For Mosca, there is an alternative to the brutal replacement of elites; for Mosca, it would be enough for this elite to constantly recruit the most talented and ambitious individuals from the lower classes to integrate them into its ranks.
For Pareto, such a conception is optimistic and naive. For Pareto, the very idea of an "intelligent political class" (in the sense of a sustainably wise government oriented toward the common good) is a historical and psychological contradiction.
The new conquering elite, or in Mosca's case, the new co-opted elite, possesses the skill of conquest, not management. There is absolutely no reason to assume that the people co-opted into this new elite are competent; in fact, it is very often (or even exclusively) the opposite; within a party, for example, the highest-ranking officials are abysmally incompetent.
Moreover, the new elite is driven by powerful feelings (faith, ambition, resentment) and has no desire to help their compatriots. Just look at how revolutionary movements on both the right and the left are undermined by the pathetic people at their head who are ready to destroy their political project for a few pennies and some pussy.

>>24533604
Well there ya go. It all goes back to pussy and money doesn't it. Picrel goes deeper from what I've seen.

>>24529772 (OP)
this guy isn't even the top 4 economist lmao.

>>24533797
Who is then?

I'm always seeing and making fruitful accidents

>>24533855
He's probably some lefty so i'll give you his retarded lists of top 4 economists:
1.Pol Pot
2.Marx
3.Che Guevara
4.Zizek

Pareto is not only a good economist, he is a brilliant sociologist and historian, he is clearly superior to the Austrian economists

>>24534054
>>24534054
look at ye projecting n seething you dwarf nigger cunt.
Actual 4 biggest economists that revolutionized/fucked the modern world :
1. Adam smith
2. Karl marx (you would either hate him because of Bolsheviks commies or love him once you give him a chance)
3. John keynes
3.1 Friedrich von hayek (GOAT)
4. Milton friedman (baloney ,despise him)

honourable mentions :
Paul samuelson ( my introductory idol on economics,a teacher)
donald trump ( he's gonna save the USD,he has already crippled the BRICS,Is on his way to win tariff won and make everyone buy american.he's gonna be known as someone who will be the founder of authoritative capitalism)

now that you mentioned some figures and we're successful to bait me ,i must talk about them too.
>Che Guevara
Last based Argentine guy who deserved to rule the south america. If only he was funded with 100k well trained soldiers and cold war tier weapons ,south america wouldn't be full of savages anymore. He would have conquered south america without killing a single enemy because everyone wished they were him,his enemies wished he was on their side.
>Zizek
NOOOOOOO. DON'T SLIP YOUR TONGUE AND NAME MY FAVORITE seizure intellectual dad like that,arg!!