Is there a more impassioned speech that shows a young man’s ambition and rage at being mocked?

King. What Treasure Vncle?
Exe. Tennis balles, my Liege
Kin. We are glad the Dolphin is so pleasant with vs,
His Present, and your paines we thanke you for:
When we haue matcht our Rackets to these Balles,
We will in France (by Gods grace) play a set,
Shall strike his fathers Crowne into the hazard.
Tell him, he hath made a match with such a Wrangler,
That all the Courts of France will be disturb'd
With Chaces. And we vnderstand him well,
How he comes o're vs with our wilder dayes,
Not measuring what vse we made of them.
We neuer valew'd this poore seate of England,
And therefore liuing hence, did giue our selfe
To barbarous license: As 'tis euer common,
That men are merriest, when they are from home.
But tell the Dolphin, I will keepe my State,
Be like a King, and shew my sayle of Greatnesse,
When I do rowse me in my Throne of France.
For that I haue layd by my Maiestie,
And plodded like a man for working dayes:
But I will rise there with so full a glorie,
That I will dazle all the eyes of France,
Yea strike the Dolphin blinde to looke on vs,
And tell the pleasant Prince, this Mocke of his
Hath turn'd his balles to Gun-stones, and his soule
Shall stand sore charged, for the wastefull vengeance
That shall flye with them: for many a thousand widows
Shall this his Mocke, mocke out of their deer husbands;
Mocke mothers from their sonnes, mock Castles downe:
And some are yet vngotten and vnborne,
That shal haue cause to curse the Dolphins scorne.
But this lyes all within the wil of God,
To whom I do appeale, and in whose name
Tel you the Dolphin, I am comming on,
To venge me as I may, and to put forth
My rightfull hand in a wel-hallow'd cause.
So get you hence in peace: And tell the Dolphin,
His Iest will sauour but of shallow wit,
When thousands weepe more then did laugh at it.
Conuey them with safe conduct. Fare you well.

>>24531027 (OP)
Kenneth Branagh is a shit actor.

>>24531057
But he loves the material. I think the difference between cinematic acting and dramatic acting is huge. You should probably try to record yourself doing Hamlet before you judge a professional actor.

>>24531058
>But he loves the material.
Without understanding it.

>I think the difference between cinematic acting and dramatic acting is huge.
Not true, the distinction is exaggerated. Paul Scofield's King Lear was truly great acting both on the stage and in front of the camera.

>You should probably try to record yourself doing Hamlet before you judge a professional actor.
I don't need to be good at something to judge if someone is doing a shit job at it. I have good actors to compare Branagh against, and he's embarrassingly amateur. He's Shakespeare for people who want Shakespeare to be like a Hollywood movie.

There are only two types of humour and I think I have the funnier one.

Pussy cat op

>>24531079
Acting is broad, I agree. But we weren't talking about acting philosophies nor methods. Translating Shakespeare for a cinematic experience is difficult; it takes skill. You can't just throw Laurence Olivier from the stage in front of a camera and hope for the best. Othello (1965) took years of Olivier's efforts to change his body and voice and the way he moved. He was famously dismissed by Orson Welles as being unable to play Othello with such a high-pitched voice. But Olivier was able to alter his style and performance from the stage for the screen, both in Hamlet (1948) and Othello (1965).

>>24531083
Anyone know why?

>>24531084

>>24531084
It is better to live laughing than to die a conspirator.

>>24531084
What time of fame are you hoping on an anonymous image board?

>>24531097
>muh basketweaving forum
I've met actors who've worked in independent movies who have 4chan humour.

>>24531099
Push shit.

>>24531099
You're a moron goodbye

>>24531104
Stop languishing in your own filth. Many people here have PhDs or have accomplished something. I've talked to CEOs here who sent me Ethereum.

>>24531107
Tell me why you live to eat fuck and sleep?

>>24531107
You're all just jealous. You don't have what I got.

>>24531110
>It breathes, it heats, it eats. It shits and fucks. What a mistake to have ever said 'the' id.
We all survive. We bite and claw our way to dusty death. You should know this in a Shakespeare thread.

>>24531107
And you never will have the heart to understand.

>>24531113
Thats not life.

>>24531107
>>24531099
These two voices might as well be the same.

>>24531123
Jesus wept.

>>24531117
Who ever lives, truly?

>>24531127
I guess whoever can describe it best

>>24531057
I remember watching that movie as a kid and even then I was conscious of how cringy that shit was.

>>24531135
Then no one would understand his descriptions because they, too, have not lived to the fullest.

>>24531084
I think sometimes you can definitely just throw a Shakespearian in front of the camera. I'm not sure if Olivier also changed his acting for the camera in Henry V, but I find his performance in that to be much better than in Hamlet and Othello. Did Branagh even change his acting style between theatre and film? I mean, fundamentally, not just to suit camera movements and different choreography. And whether Branagh is in the theatre or on film, I know for a fact that he was a bad actor.

>>24531142
His acting style is more expressive and larger than life on stage. You can argue that makes it bad stage acting, but I just meant to critique Anon for not knowing how hard acting can be across mediums. Shakespeare is hard to translate for the screen. Anyone who has tried to do any filmmaking or photography, and who has read Shakespeare, would think so. Some things are easier to represent on the stage and the audiences have different expectations. Cinema acts more like a pure experience or dream, with more emphasis on visuals and audio in concentrated and subtle fashions.

>>24531138
There are two Carefrees. Me and you.

>>24531057
Mel Gibson's Hamlet is literally and unironically better, both as a film and as a performance.

Branagh is fine in light fare (Harry Potter, the new Poirot movies even though he's not as good as Ustinov, etc), but as a serious dramatic actor he's always something of a disappointment.

>>24531062
>Paul Scofield's King Lear was truly great acting both on the stage and in front of the camera.
Scofield was one of the underrated greats, for me particularly in A Man for All Seasons, and later Quiz Show.

>>24531147
>Cinema acts more like a pure experience or dream, with more emphasis on visuals and audio in concentrated and subtle fashions.

For me, Chimes at Midnight as the peak of cinematic Shakespeare, at least as far as (relatively) straightforward adaptations go.

>>24531027 (OP)
>Dolphin instead of Dauphin
An attempt at humour, I suppose?

>>24532472
As a Welles movie it's a typical mixed bag, some very great directorial talent as well as the typical unfinished qualities and mistakes, but as an adaptation of Shakespeare it's downright atrocious. Welles idea of Falstaff wasn't Shakespeare's Falstaff, he projected his own sentimental image of his own relationship with his father onto the relationship between Hal and Falstaff. If you don't know, Welles father was a drunk and as a young man he was persuaded by his teachers or someone like that to tell his father that he wont speak to him unless he changes his ways, and then shortly after that his father died and he felt guilt about it. This forces him to view Harry's change as a 'betrayal' and also to see Falstaff as 'the truly good man' which is just nonsense.

>>24532482
That's from Project Gutenberg. Dauphin was spelled Dolphin because they mean the same thing.

Its just bad

>>24531027 (OP)
no

>>24531057
Try watching his Hamlet for keks.
He insists on using the full text, surrounds himself with the best supporting cast ever assembled, uses 70mm film for maximum visual impact ... and then hams his way through the whole thing like an absolute fucking retard.

>>24534712
So post something better, you faecally-incontinent faggot.

>>24535586
After that I think people realised he wasn't a good actor and he only got to make the the atrociously directed As You Like It a decade later. Somehow he managed to trick people with Henry V.

The worst acclaimed Shakespeare performance I've seen is Ian Holm's Lear where he maintains the same manic anger throughout the entire play, even at the death of Cordelia. There is not a single variation in the performance - Lear is just a bumbling abusive angrily yelling fool the entire production.

>>24531027 (OP)
>>24531027 (OP)

am i vnderstanding this correctly? you /lit/ trannies think his henry v saint crispins day speech is bad?

https://youtu.be/A-yZNMWFqvM?si=m5rd7Ngc3ob9Xmmz

>>24535711
Yes, it is a bad performance, and you should listen to classic Shakespearian actors instead:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TU7NrnLsr5g

>>24535739
no and youre all pseud plebs. that performance sucks and its just monotone crapspokentooquickly

https://youtu.be/-5JF9Gq5tL4?si=5jtqvs5DZCuo4CgN

>>24535769
>richard burton
>monotone
Do you lack ears? What a bizarre statement.