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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 4:36:25 PM No.24531659
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At the heart of Don Quixote lies the tragedy of a man caught between two worlds: the crumbling vestiges of a sacred, hierarchical, symbolically ordered cosmos and the emerging, disenchanted modern age characterized by rationalism, materialism, and desacralization. For Guénon, the essence of modernity is the loss of the transcendent, and in this light, Don Quixote is not simply mad, but symbolic of the anagogical confusion that results when traditional archetypes are misapplied in a profane world.

1. The Hero in a Degenerate Age
Guénon consistently warned against the "reign of quantity"—the domination of the material over the spiritual, the collapse of quality, symbolism, and metaphysical depth. Don Quixote, in his idealism and longing for the chivalric code, may be seen as an anachronistic figure clinging to the echoes of a traditional order. His madness, under this interpretation, is not a personal delusion but a symptom of civilizational dislocation. He seeks to live according to eternal principles in a world that has become blind to them.

Don Quixote’s enemies—windmills mistaken for giants, or innkeepers imagined as castle lords—symbolize the demythologized and desacralized landscape of modernity. They are not real giants because modernity has flattened the symbolic world, and so the hero must project myth back onto it, not out of folly but as a desperate act of spiritual fidelity. This aligns with the Traditionalist view that modern man has lost the ability to perceive the sacred forms and spiritual realities behind phenomena.

2. Satire or Initiatic Parody?
Guénon was highly sensitive to esoteric concealment, especially the idea that metaphysical truths are sometimes hidden under masks of humor or absurdity to protect them from profane understanding. In this light, Don Quixote may be read as an initiatic parody—a spiritual satire that, while appearing to ridicule knightly ideals, actually points to their tragic irrelevance in the modern age, thereby affirming their higher truth through negation.

This echoes Guénon’s defense of traditional symbols and rites as vehicles for metaphysical realization, which are rendered inert or absurd when removed from their proper context. Quixote’s failures thus reveal not the inadequacy of the chivalric ideal, but the world’s inability to support or comprehend that ideal any longer.
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 4:38:49 PM No.24531666
3. Sancho Panza and the Horizontal Man
In contrast to Don Quixote’s vertical aspiration toward the ideal (the transcendent), Sancho Panza represents the horizontal man—pragmatic, bodily, attached to material rewards. Their relationship is emblematic of the duality Guénon saw in the modern soul: the pull between the profane and the sacred, the inertial pull of matter and the aspiration to spirit.

But even Sancho is not entirely without higher instincts. He slowly absorbs some of Don Quixote’s worldview, and at times he participates in the knight’s vision. This hints at Guénon’s belief that even in modernity, the spark of metaphysical intuition remains latent, capable of being rekindled.

Chivalry as Spiritual Archetype
Chivalry, for Guénon, would be more than a social code—it would be part of the warrior initiation found in traditional societies. The knight is a metaphysical warrior, fighting not merely physical enemies but forces of chaos and subversion. Don Quixote, stripped of an initiatic framework and a metaphysical support structure, becomes a tragic vestige—a man who remembers the forms but has lost the esoteric content. His tragedy lies in enacting a sacred role in an uninitiated, desacralized age. Thus, his life becomes a metaphysical failure not because the ideal is wrong, but because the world is no longer worthy of it.
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 4:39:50 PM No.24531669
Guénon's Copy of Don Quixote: A Symbolic Clue?
A particularly intriguing fact is that a copy of Don Quixote was documented in René Guénon’s personal library in Cairo. Given Guénon's extremely selective reading habits—focused almost exclusively on metaphysics, traditional doctrine, and sacred texts—the inclusion of this novel is significant. It suggests that Guénon may have seen Don Quixote not as mere satire or entertainment but as a text containing symbolic truths, accessible to those with the esoteric key.

Guénon’s ownership of the book lends weight to the interpretation that Don Quixote could serve as an allegory of spiritual alienation, a parable of tradition’s fate in a profane world. His possible interest in Cervantes might even relate to the long-standing speculation about Cervantes’ exposure to Islamic and esoteric thought during his captivity in Algiers, a region steeped in Sufi mysticism—a fact that Guénon, with his profound interest in Sufism and Islamic esoterism, would not have overlooked.

Conclusion
Viewed through the lens of René Guénon and the Traditionalist School, Don Quixote is far more than a parody of knighthood. It becomes a metaphysical tragedy, a veiled lament for the passing of a sacred order and a symbolic depiction of the hero’s fate in the Kali Yuga, the dark age. The presence of the book in Guénon's own library suggests that he may have intuited—or explicitly recognized—its deeper, symbolic dimension. In this sense, Don Quixote stands as both a literary monument and a cryptic testimony to the persistence of traditional ideals in a world that no longer understands them.
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 9:15:17 PM No.24532214
>>24531659 (OP)
>>24531666
>>24531669
That's cool and all OP, buy I stopped reading when I noticed the AI horizontal lines
Viva España!
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 9:21:30 PM No.24532230
>>24531659 (OP)

PBUH
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 5:18:08 AM No.24533115
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>>24531659 (OP)
straight man/wise guy combos are funny
punching down (on schizo down and outs) is funny

simple as. don't overcomplicate it.
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 9:57:13 AM No.24533529
holy chatgpt slop
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 11:56:37 AM No.24533697
>>24533115
>simple as. don't overcomplicate it.
but what OP said was simple and commonplace at the time of Cervantes (just like all the ideas presented in the Divine Comedy were simple and commonplace in the 13th/14th century Christian Europe Dante was living in); people were beating each other up, at the bar, over metaphysical issues, like today they do over which football club is least gay

the fact that Cervantes was pissed off and spilled his heart out trying to put a finger on what was wrong with his environment does not diminish the complexity of the work
back in those days people were a lot more intelligent and connected to both Heaven and Earth... in fact it remained like that until the 1800s when things started to degenerate

>>24531669
>>24531666
>>24531659 (OP)
interesting, although I doubt there was a direct (doctrinal) Sufi influence on Cervantes... it's more like he looked at them and seen the shortcomings of Spanish society all the more clearly... as a bonus fact he was contemporary with Teresa of Avila & John of the Cross