And one of the most dangerous ones too because it creates a false sense of superiority that is actually a hindrance, an obstacle to be overcome. Escaping inwards ultimately robbs one of the outside world. It is the way of the coward.
There needs to be a balance between the mental and the physical.
You'll never learn how to swim by reading about water and so on.

>It's another Andrew Taint troll thread on the /lit/ board

But I can't participate in a cavalry charge, or raze the citadel of Troy, or traverse the universe in a space ship in real life, OP. Reading is a good means of experiencing things that you cannot possibly experience IRL. It doesn't preclude me from having real life experiences either, it would seem that you are simply trying to cope with being an illiterate caveman.

>>24531899 (OP)
>raising the ghosts of long-dead philistines who thought the poet a liar and history the only truth

>>24531899 (OP)
I say some of this but I also don't look like this the way OP looks like this

>no life
vs
>no life + reading
The choice is obvious

>>24531899 (OP)
> You'll never learn how to swim by reading about water and so on.
Good point. You can’t learn anything without doing it that’s why we have universities and becoming a doctor requires no reading.

Maybe OP is part of the “vibe coding” generation that thinks aimlessly flailing around is learning and accomplishing things. He generates his answers in school because reading is pointless since the machine knows everything.

I guess the ultimate irony is that the same generation that is the most anti reading also do nothing in their life. Less sex, less drugs, less events, gatherings. They seem to just use social media apps and pretend to have a life.

The boomer generation that had the most sex, drugs and rock n roll also read a lot more. Maybe your thesis is dumb?

>>24531899 (OP)
>You'll never learn how to swim by reading about water and so on.
You'll never build a cabinet by reading a DIY woodworking book, might as well just slap that shit together with no principles on how to proceed and hope for the best

>>24531899 (OP)
books for this feel?

>>reading creates a false sense of superiority
>>NOOO YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO DO THING BECAUSE I PERSONALLY DON'T DO THING!!!
Ironic.

>>24531899 (OP)
>Gargantua and Pantagruel
Great book.

Mens sana in corpore sano.

Which books are shartycore?

>>24531947
>I can't participate in a cavalry charge, or raze the citadel of Troy, or traverse the universe in a space ship in real life
That's most likely not what those books are about. If they are, then they are shit literature. Shiterature even.
>>24532014
Why is no life the default? Have you tried trying?
>>24532066
Entirely unrelated tangent but still some interesting headcanon.
I bet you have interesting conversations with yourself.
>>24532087
>You'll never build a cabinet by reading a DIY woodworking book
Craftsmanship is actually a pretty good example of how knowledge cannot be fully captured in words or images.
It needs to be passed on from master to student through teaching and observation.
Quite literally "through the hands" and by practising the observed again and again.
Building muscle memory and so on.
It is a physical activity that can only be very partially translated into words.
Much of this knowledge has already been lost. Sure, you can build a cabinet by reading a book about it, but it will most likely be subpar compared to what someone who has undergone an apprenticeship (most likely with zero books involved) can achieve.
No book can replace an experienced master craftsman.
When he dies, he takes a major part of his skill and knowledge to his grave. Even if he wrote it down while alive.
>>24532134
Ironically Freud defined neurosis as the inability to tolerate ambiguity.

>>24532241
>Why is no life the default? Have you tried trying?
I guess not enough. It's getting overer by the day

>>24531899 (OP)
The Forms are imperceptible through sensation, only through reason.

OP is a mental midget with no imagination. Not even figuratively, he is actually incapable of imagining anything or understanding the value of doing so. He talks about the "outside world" and the "inside world" as if they're somehow separate or have no influence on one another. What a sad person.

>>24532316
>He talks about the "outside world" and the "inside world" as if they're somehow separate
They are.
Please try to take out the trash with your mind before you start typing about how they are actually totally the same thing, DUDE.
>have no influence on one another.
Way to miss the whole point.

Ok, I'll explain it to you again.
Reading without integrating what you read into your life, applying it so to speak (consciously or unconsciously), is a dead end.
Reading is not an end in itself. The world in your head and the world around your corporeal form must be explored equally. Reading alone leads nowhere good.
It won’t even make you “smart”. Just complacent, weltfremd and vergeistigt.
A guy who stands in the corner, smug and pretentious, not realizing that he lacks the essential knowledge that one needs to live life. Something you can't learn from books
It's essentially a cope for some other deficit much like bodybuilders put all their cards on gaining gains while their intellect atrophies because their mother didn't love them enough as a child or some shit.

>>24532344
What is the purpose of life? What do I gain by prescribing to your world view? What makes you different?

>>24532344
reading doesn’t need to integrate into your life to justify itself, any more than a symphony does. books are there to show you what it’s like to be someone else, somewhere else, or even no one at all. to have conversations with fascinating people, some long dead. if the worst thing reading does is make you aware of a world larger than your own, then: good. bring on the weltfremdheit.

you want to psychoanalyse every habit down to someone’s mother? you’ll find yourself in the same corner you think the reader’s in. the truth is, some people read because they like it.

i kekd way too hard at op's img

>>24532420
not a good sign. /lit/ has the unfunniest memes of any board by a country mile.

>>24532430
you just don't have the iq to bask in the glory of /lit/ memes

>>24532438

>>24532430
Take that back /lit/ literally made big chungus.

>>24532449
thanks pewdiepie

>>24532238
A few dozen manifestos ghostwritten by FBI agents using GPT

>>24532344
>Reading without integrating what you read into your life, applying it so to speak
Who does this, who advocates this, who holds that it even possible to do this? You're arguing with yourself

>>24531899 (OP)

I am in fact starting Ulysses now and I've never had sex with a woman.

>>24532448
yes a reddit quote gate keeping 95 iq memes applies here

What's the fucking point? What do you want me to do? You need me to built you a cabinet? Fuck off.

>>24531899 (OP)
Why did they give that guy goblin ears?

>>24532504
walked right into it

>>24531899 (OP)
It's not a limitation of books but of what people are willing to go on record about in books, or just communicate to others.
No one is capable of being fully themselves when communicating with others, least of all authors. There is always the mask.

So I'm supposed to experience being a woman with two children with a deadbeat husband who is surrounded by alcoholism and poverty in order to read a novel about it?

>>24532571
>Everything that is profound loves the mask: the profoundest things have a hatred even of figure and likeness. Should not the CONTRARY only be the right disguise for the shame of a God to go about in? A question worth asking!—it would be strange if some mystic has not already ventured on the same kind of thing. There are proceedings of such a delicate nature that it is well to overwhelm them with coarseness and make them unrecognizable; there are actions of love and of an extravagant magnanimity after which nothing can be wiser than to take a stick and thrash the witness soundly: one thereby obscures his recollection. Many a one is able to obscure and abuse his own memory, in order at least to have vengeance on this sole party in the secret: shame is inventive. They are not the worst things of which one is most ashamed: there is not only deceit behind a mask ... Every profound spirit needs a mask; nay, more, around every profound spirit there continually grows a mask, owing to the constantly false, that is to say, SUPERFICIAL interpretation of every word he utters, every step he takes, every sign of life he manifests.

>>24532533
>this retard gatekeeping means everyone that is gatekeeping is a retard
ngl you sound disqualified

>>24532629
you couldn’t have made your post more similar to that meme if you tried

>>24532100
Gargantua and Pantagruel.

>>24532584
Yes. Ontologically.

>>24532344
Fundamentally, the point of all art is that it has no "point". It exists for its own sake, not to be used for self improvement or to make profit. Good art engages with people emotionally and/or intellectually, but that's not strictly necessary and isn't the main "goal". The "goal" is really just human expression. Which, as an aside is why AI can never be art. there were no, or very little intentional or unintentional decisions made in its creation, it isn't the expression of any mind.

>>24531899 (OP)
>You'll never learn how to swim by reading about water and so on.
I am a very good swimmer, so now I get to read, fuck off.

>>24531899 (OP)
What is this picture implying

>>24531899 (OP)
I once got into a fight with some big men and I fought them off by myself. I felt like Hector fighting away the Greek armies.

>>24532626
>mumblerap poetiphilosopy

>>24533611
Fat floating on top doesn't count.

>>24531899 (OP)
Reading is itself an experience, but it is an experience of a particular kind. Neuroimaging studies on narrative comprehension show that when a text describes motion, smell, or emotion, activity can be detected in brain areas normally recruited for those functions during direct perception or action. The overlap is partial and transient, yet it is sufficient to suggest that the imagination offers a low-fidelity rehearsal of events, expanding the reader's catalogue of possible perceptions and emotional responses. That rehearsal, however, lacks three elements that only real-world action can supply: physical stakes, immediate social feedback, and genuine unpredictability. Bodily risk matters because only real stakes (fatigue, pain, adrenaline) teach the nervous system how a mental model behaves under pressure. That calibration cannot be simulated fully in imagination. Social feedback matters because a conversation, a negotiation, or a flirtation instantly returns information about how one's words land, exposing blind spots that silent reflection rarely reveals. Without another person's facial micro-expressions, interruptions, or reciprocal emotions, one's communicative techniques may remain internally coherent but unverified. Unpredictability matters because the world's variability forces the mind to generalise principles instead of anchoring on the narrow conditions of the original cognitive model. Without the unscripted variability of crowded streets, shifting weather, or equipment failure, cognitive schemas risk becoming overfitted to the tidy constraints of the printed page. Ideas that feel complete inside a book tend to remain provisional until they encounter the corrective pressures of the outside that bodies, other people, and chance events impose. A life conducted entirely through texts may therefore nurture sophisticated mental models whose adequacy has never been adjudicated by the world, leaving them liable either to fracture on first contact with material constraints or to retreat into ever more elaborate abstraction to avoid such contact.

>>24534159
Only good post itt

>>24532241
Goalposts
>Moved

>>24534279
must be samefag, right? no one in their right mind is getting further than two sentences into such a dry, long-winded, humourless post.

>>24533888
maybe ur just dum

>>24534159
Please tell me this is AI and you do not actually think or write like this.

>>24532241
>btfo
>not a single argument
I accept your loss.

>>24534299
>>24534970
tits or gtfo

>>24531899 (OP)
How is that different than watching TV or movies about things you've never experienced? Your category includes everyone in the world.

>>24531899 (OP)
A lot of truth to this. Many turn to ideas and art in order to escape life, instead of using it to enrich life.

>>24534990
>yet doesn’t reply to the one person complimenting him
so yeah it was sanefagging then

>>24535329
>sanefagging
yeah, it was

>>24535803
>claps back at this typo but still forgets to reply to the one who said it was the best post itt
Curious, that

>>24535809
>sharts in your mouth

>>24535816
2 2 2 funny