The definitive version.

It’s a great translation
If you’re a colossal faggot

>>24531931 (OP)
Nice bait. You almost got me there.

>>24531931 (OP)
You'd probably get a clearer picture of the Iliad by sitting down with the original greek and a dictionary than reading Emily WIlson. Franky I'm leery of all female translators thanks in large part to her.

>>24531998
you’d get a close picture with a crib than any translator, genius

>>24531931 (OP)
Latimore > Fagles >>>>>>

>>24531986
>its real

>>24533404
So is this.

>>24533756
what could possibly prompt one to do such a thing

Is Pope good

>>24533811
>His Iliad translation appeared between 1715 and 1720. It was acclaimed by Samuel Johnson as "a performance which no age or nation could hope to equal". Conversely, the classical scholar Richard Bentley wrote: "It is a pretty poem, Mr. Pope, but you must not call it Homer."[31]

Terrible book, there's no epic battle between good and evil. Just another example of modern moral relativism

>>24533811
In terms of accuracy or quality?

>>24533756
>this is what a feted academic looks like in current year

>>24533819
The Iliad is morally relativistic, you faggot.
So was Greek mythology in general.

>>24533819
>>24535712
Frankly classical Greeks seem dissatisfied with the amoral slaughter of the bronze age, but perhaps it is hard for me to be objective about interpreting Trojan Women or the Orestia or whatever given that I'd go and use the term "amoral slaughter".

>>24535712
that’s exactly what he said…?

>>24535719
>modern moral relativism
He was clearly referring to the Wilson translation.

>>24535750
it was clearly a tongue in cheek post

>>24535756
>clearly
How can anyone be sure of recognising irony, given the levels of retardation on display around here?

>>24535780
Not him but for it to have not been tongue in cheek it would mean that he actually read Wilson's translation and had an issue with how it presented morality and I don't think anyone here would read Wilson's translation.

>>24535780
takes one to know one, eh? but yeah i’m flabbergasted that someone missed the humour there

>>24535795
Yeah, my sides are in orbit.

>>24535820
>takes a joke seriously
>gets mad
>realises it’s a joke
>’wasn’t even funny anyway’
textbook damage control

>>24535837
Textbook cope.

>>24535863
textbook buzzword

>>24531931 (OP)
Since the trans movement has stepped into the limelight over the past decade or so now, its been easy to forget how insufferable modern-day feminism can be as well. Then something like this comes along just to remind everyone

>>24536818
Quite funny that Pope turned the Iliad into an English 18th century poem full of 18th century ideas of decency and proper behaviour and cutting out some of the more unpleasant things, and half the people here admire it. But E Wilson - whose Greek is surely better than Pope’s - adds a few of her own touches, and suddenly it’s all clutching of pearls like she graffitied the Parthenon.

>>24536818
Modern day feminism really had the wind taken out of its sails by the trans movement. Well, that and the ideology had become a parody of itself by the mid 2010s due to crazies taking charge.

>>24536873
Have you considered that both are problems.

>>24537169
We seem to see a lot more talk about the latter here. It's inevitable that the contemporary attitudes will influence any translation, it's happened for centuries

>>24536873
>But E Wilson - whose Greek is surely better than Pope’s
>He was taught to read by his aunt and became a book lover, reading in French, Italian, Latin and Greek and discovering Homer at the age of six.

>>24537208
Wilson read lit. hum. at Oxford, Pope used ill-paid hacks to help him complete his Odyssey

>>24537214
>Wilson read lit. hum. at Oxford
This isn't the recommendation you think it is, anon.

>>24537222
no?

& it's no secret how limited Pope's Greek was, he relied heavily on translations from others.

Overrated, Aethiopis was better

>E Wilson - whose Greek is surely better than Pope’s - adds a few of her own touches, and suddenly it’s all clutching of pearls like she graffitied the Parthenon


She’s doing alright for herself. Feminist academia and gender guys love her. She’s not missing any meals just because I want nothing to do with her. She’ll be fine.
I don’t owe her likes doe.

>>24537297
yeah I’m not personally worried about her wellbeing, just making a point.

>>24536873
Kek