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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 7:14:23 PM No.24531936
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what the fuck was the point of this movie and book? why did it become popular?
it's basically
>um, I want to have sex with CHILDREN
>uohhhhhh
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 7:16:29 PM No.24531938
>this 12 year old is seducing me
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 7:28:01 PM No.24531959
>>24531936 (OP)
What is amazing to me is that this book is actually really popular with women, i had a slutty co-worker and it was her favorite book.
Daddy issues maybe
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 7:36:45 PM No.24531969
>>24531959
That shouldn't surprise you. Look at the kind of stuff that gets popular on booktok these days, it's way more fucked up than Lolita ever was.
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 7:39:55 PM No.24531975
>>24531969
There's this dark fantasy novel by a female writer and the dedication is "to all the girls who love to suck the villain's cock. Deeper, girls!" or something along those lines. Tiktok chicks went crazy. Really weird stuff.
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 7:41:10 PM No.24531979
>>24531959
>>24531969
Women are turned on by the idea of a man being obsessed with them. They read it because GIWTWM.
Every /lit/ dweller that likes it claims to simply enjoy the prose which personally I find hard to believe given how tedious Nabokov's writing is but different strokes and all that I guess.
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 7:44:10 PM No.24531988
>>24531936 (OP)
Back in the day women's magazines like Vanity were hyping it up as "the greatest love story of our days" or something, I kid you not. Boomers viewed this as erotica which is simply so bizarre and backwards.
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 7:55:29 PM No.24532010
>>24531988
>>24531959
>>24531975
Once you understand that most radical feminist thought aims its disgust chiefly (but obliquely) at the women who enthusiastically embrace submission and masochism, it all starts to make sense. Men don't figure into this anywhere. What Nabokov wrote is irrelevant.
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 8:13:18 PM No.24532052
>>24531936 (OP)
it's not 'basically' that at all
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 8:15:00 PM No.24532057
>>24531936 (OP)
Why is there a boy on the cover?
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 8:33:24 PM No.24532091
>>24531938
She did seduce him. Humbert's problem is he allows that to happen and gives in. You're not supposed to the former and damn well should never do the latter.
You are jesting (greentext), but it's the objective reality.
Also, Humbert's problem is he keeps going when Dolly stops seeing it as a game. She's done playing but Humbert won't stop.
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 12:13:24 AM No.24532547
Ok bitch, just don't read the book
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 1:30:41 AM No.24532655
>>24532547
Lolita is a huge filter. You get uninformed moralists crying about pedophilia, and you get plebs like >>24532057.
Always use Lolita as a filter if you doubt someone's /lit/ credentials.
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 5:29:53 AM No.24533144
>>24531959
I looked up reviews for this book on YouTube, and all the female reviewers stated how they found themselves agreeing with Humbert while reading the book.
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 6:13:01 AM No.24533223
>retards admitting they're even stupider than the retards who thought lolita was advocating pedophilia
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 7:22:03 AM No.24533345
Lolita is a book cream pied with beauty. Even the biggest feminist retard can look at its first paragraph, oogling the syllables of Lolita's name, and tell there's some real talented literary foreplay going on. And I know they're memes here on /lit/ but Lolita is one of the most allusive and linguistically playful novels since Ulysses and Finnegans Wake.

Edgar Allen Poe is referenced at least 20 times in Lolita, Annabel Lee and her "princedom by the sea." Also Mérimée, Shakespeare, and Joyce are heavily referenced. The first chapter is so short it mocks the traditional novel's expository opening. The towns of Elphinstone and Pisky playing on the words pixie and elf, intertwining with his love of nymphets and all the other allusions he makes to fairy tales. The fate of Nabokov's "fairy princess" and the novel's denouement reverse the fairy-tale process, even though H.H. offers Lolita the opportunity of a formulaic fairy-tale ending: "we shall live happily ever after."

But most people, especially older women, read it expecting smut. Which it doesn't contain.
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 7:36:15 AM No.24533360
>>24533345
Truly it is the family guy of literature.
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 7:46:29 AM No.24533369
>>24532091
anon do you actually believe that she seduced him? the entire book is a plea (literally to a jury) that he doesn't deserve to be punished for what he did. hh intentionally uses beautiful prose and shifting blame to make the reader (nabokov makes you the jury whether or not you realize it) sympathize with him
key phrase "ladies and gentlmen of the jury." hh isn't writing this document for the love of his girl.
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 7:47:17 AM No.24533370
>>24531936 (OP)
>what the fuck was the point of this movie and book
Russian Great Realist fucks the English Language until it bleeds semen, blood, menses, ovulation and a still-birth.

That's how significant the novel is. 7 layers of untrustworthy narrator. The most important novel in the English language. And it was written by a Russian who was raped as a child who detests English, the American, and the novel.
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 7:50:03 AM No.24533377
>>24532091
>She did seduce him.
Lolita doesn't exist, she is a fiction of Humbert as narrator. See the typesetter chapter.
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 9:52:24 AM No.24533519
>>24531936 (OP)
You could as well ask what the point of some lolicon NTR hentai doujin is. It's a cuck fantasy for pedos.
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 10:21:31 AM No.24533558
>>24531936 (OP)
Well yeah that's what Humbert is all about. He wants to have sex with Children, and he wants to convince you that it's ok for him to have sex with children.

Nabokov took the novel to it's absolute limits, at least in some respect, like Ulysses with Bloom's inner life and thoughts. Maybe too succesfully for it's own good, sometimes.
>>24533345
Somehow, it makes perfect sense for it to be composed this way 'in character'.
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 11:07:51 AM No.24533608
>>24531936 (OP)
Galkovsky says that Humbert is a british spy and him wanting to fuck the little girl is his only human quality
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 11:11:30 AM No.24533614
>>24531936 (OP)
It's an exploration of the mind of pedos and the type of self-serving cognitive distortions they use to convince themselves that raping kids is OK. Nabakov was a victim as a child.
At the time, people thought all pedos were obviously creepy old men who kidnapped children, so the superficially charming and intelligent Humbert is a subversion of that, which is good because most pedos look and act like normal people, it's just that the obvious creeps are caught more often because they're incompetent at hiding / grooming their victims, and probably autistic. Also, it's a great example of the "unreliable narrator" narrative device which in hindsight is one of the reasons why this book is so often misinterpreted. See, you're not supposed to see Dolores/Lolita as having seduced him, that's Humbert's self-serving cognitive distortion speaking. He is presenting the story is a way that shows himself in the best possible light, the reader is supposed to be questioning the narrative and looking at the subtext. The author put too much faith into the public's intelligence and ethics. The fact that so many literature professors took it at face value and interpreted it as a "love story" really makes me wonder about them.
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 11:18:39 AM No.24533628
>>24533377
This. The thing that is most obvious about Dolores is that she is almost entirely absent from the narrative, and when she does appear, Humbert seems to really dislike or even hate her. What he's in love with isn't her, it's the fantasy he's created in his head, she's just the physical body he projects onto, the character of Lolita is literally just a cognitive fiction he's created to justify the fact that he just wants Dolores' body, he doesn't care about her as a person in the slightest.
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 12:29:16 PM No.24533764
>>24533369
>the entire book is a plea (literally to a jury) that he doesn't deserve to be punished for what he did.
he says he should be sentenced to 35 years in prison for rape
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 2:58:08 PM No.24533997
>>24531936 (OP)
>writing a protagonist means you want to be that character. Therefore if you write a pedo as a protagonist you are a pedo.
Total retard.
>>24531959
women love their true crime.
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 6:41:48 PM No.24534354
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>>24531936 (OP)
That cover is mogged by the penguin classics one
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 6:46:40 PM No.24534362
>>24531936 (OP)
>it's basically
>>um, I want to have sex with CHILDREN
No, that is just surface level. The real point is: Capitalism is evil and ruined Russia.
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 3:10:21 AM No.24535967
>>24531936 (OP)
It's sexo
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 6:15:28 AM No.24536324
>>24531959
"A plot that could have been the most worthless pornography becomes, in Nabokov's hands, a great and tragic love story. I could exhaust my reservoir of superlatives trying to describe the quality of the writing." - JK Rowling
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 8:02:45 AM No.24536504
the point is cunny trumps all obviously
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 11:40:19 AM No.24536811
>>24531936 (OP)
>anon literally didn't read it